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calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1166	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:50:00 - [1] - Quote I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. The evil hidden in the name
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1406	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:59:00 - [2] - Quote Well to be fair they were nerfed but the handling and acceleration changes make the nerf obsolete. For example on my alt my tank now has lower rep rate (but constant to be fair) lower damage resistance with hardeners on (none with them off) and lower HP. The only plus is the speed and handling buff which allows tanks to drive around like LAV's on acid this coupled with the swarm range and damage nerf makes it hard for AV to hit them as it is easy to outrun swarms. I think swarms should have had a damage and range nerf but more gradual instead of more than halfing range and taking a third of damage I think both should have been dropped by 25% and tested small tweaks are better than making massive changes as huge changes usually make something OP are UP too easily. TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
Our Deepest Regret The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 353	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:00:00 - [3] - Quote calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. Calvin, the 100% speed nitro is a bug, don't expect it to be around much longer. Tanks are faster now and do handle better, but don't sweat it thinking these guys are going to be sonic the hedgehog forever. Unless they're planning to do a hotfix. I'll give it to Wednesday at the latest. I don't use the militia booster. Why get used to something that won't last? Also, it feels like cheating.
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 198	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:02:00 - [4] - Quote Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir.
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1167	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:03:00 - [5] - Quote I can only hope that they do fix this soon. I want epic battles. Not one sided fights, were who has the most tanks when The evil hidden in the name
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1167	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:05:00 - [6] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir. You did not read my post. It clearly says I along with 4 others, there was 5 of us using AV. I only try and solo a tank when its life or death or I can sneak up to them and maybe pull off a kill. The evil hidden in the name
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1862	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:07:00 - [7] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir. Because 3 people to take out 1 person is balanced. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1190	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:10:00 - [8] - Quote This **** is hilarious. I havn't been able to play 1.7, but apparently HAVs are so OP its comical. I am enjoying the plethora of "OMG TAKNS IS OP" threads. Fizzer94 // Level 1 Forum Warrior // The Plasma Cannon is NOT underpowered
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3462	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:13:00 - [9] - Quote In Manus peak a tank rolled up on [A] where it raises in elevation a lot and flew in the air, OVER THE NULL CANNON by about 10 meters and landed around 30 meters away from Alpha. That's ******* ridiculous.
Our Deepest Regret The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 353	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:15:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir. Because 3 people to take out 1 person is balanced. AV will get buffed, it's inevitable. As long as vehicle prices remain the same, it'll sting a lot less when they do. I will say though, that My gunlogi is for blowing up other tanks or getting blown up by other tanks. It's kind of nice that Infantry can't butt in anymore.

Cosgar ParagonX 8553	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:15:00 - [11] - Quote Loving the infantry tears. My only complaint is that REs and proximity mines could use a slight buff. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
TheBLAZZED VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 115	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:29:00 - [12] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: In Manus peak a tank rolled up on [A] where it raises in elevation a lot and flew in the air, OVER THE NULL CANNON by about 10 meters and landed around 30 meters away from Alpha. That's ******* ridiculous. Bugged injectors... boosts 100% instead of 10%.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Top Men. 1424	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:34:00 - [13] - Quote Our Deepest Regret wrote: AV will get buffed, it's inevitable. As long as vehicle prices remain the same, it'll sting a lot less when they do. I will say though, that My gunlogi is for blowing up other tanks or getting blown up by other tanks. It's kind of nice that Infantry can't butt in anymore. This dumbass comment has rekindled my interest in this game. I will be returning to test methods for destroying your shiny, stupid toys within the next two days. We shall see how the forge guns perform under high stress combat now
Orenji Jiji 309	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:50:00 - [14] - Quote My proto swarm launcher with damage mods is unable to kill a tank. Just because tankers cried enough. Fair enough, good game. I've had a tank charge straight into me in what seemed like 0 to 100km/h in half a second. He jumped, somersaulted, roared and splashed me. My proto swarms (3 salvos of wiyrkomis) didnada. It was a maddy. On the other hand -- tank jumping and doing air acrobatics. This is bananas. Also my PE exploded under LAV and killed a gunner. Also my partner with another set of proto swarms and damage mods makes hunting somas fun. I've had a LAV with overdrive and literally exploded it while I activated fuel injector and touched my left stick. But still. My proto AV hunter fit is more costly than that tank at this point, LOL! SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, tank godmode, working NKs. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 368	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:58:00 - [15] - Quote Our Deepest Regret wrote: calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. Calvin, the 100% speed nitro is a bug, don't expect it to be around much longer. Tanks are faster now and do handle better, but don't sweat it thinking these guys are going to be sonic the hedgehog forever. Unless they're planning to do a hotfix. I'll give it to Wednesday at the latest. I don't use the militia booster. Why get used to something that won't last? Also, it feels like cheating. Well I haven't seen CCP really address it so I'm guessing it will be a "feature" for 1 or 2 months...so go ahead and strap it on. Always 1 step forward and 2 steps back with this game.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1236	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:02:00 - [16] - Quote calvin b wrote: 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. You lost a game where the enemy had 6 tanks? That's something. If they have more than 2 tanks they're actually kind of at a disadvantage with 3 people who aren't able to cap a point and who can't participate in CQC.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 625	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:04:00 - [17] - Quote calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. TL;DR Can I has yur ISK? {:)}{3GÇó> HTFU: adapt or die
Grimmiers 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 360	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:14:00 - [18] - Quote Too fast. Make movement more realistic. Fix fuel injector modules. Add webifier proximity explosives in 1.8? SoundCloud Recruiter Link Pronounced Grim-e-urs
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1169	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:59:00 - [19] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: calvin b wrote: 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. You lost a game where the enemy had 6 tanks? That's something. If they have more than 2 tanks they're actually kind of at a disadvantage with 3 people who aren't able to cap a point and who can't participate in CQC. I was in ambush and there was a squad following the tanks. The tanks blocked the entry to the city and used the squad to kill off any AV. The tanks kept us from leaving our red line, they move so fast that my scout was no match. I have complex Biotics and I was running to lay uplinks in the city and a tank comes roaring out of nowhere and kills me The evil hidden in the name
Jammer Jalapeno BIG BAD W0LVES 103	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:33:00 - [20] - Quote Tanks are fine...I'm still blowing em up no problem. I find they are more vulnerable now actually. MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui KOBAYASHI MARU PROJECT 187	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:49:00 - [21] - Quote calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. YOU are the Grand Prize Winner !!!!!! I haven't this much in all my readings of threads ... EVER !!!! Everything you said about this situation is true and those who will oppose you will only do so because they feel like this is the best time for revenge . Sometimes the need for revenge can make a person ignorant . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Toby Flenderson research lab 144	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:51:00 - [22] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir. You should get that warp speed module that every tank I see seems to have. I agree that it should take more than one person but I've been in larger groups than 3 trying to take out tanks and they just move too fast right now. I think if they couldn't outrun 3/4 of the AV weapons/grenades currently available, it would be fine.
Toby Flenderson research lab 144	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:55:00 - [23] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: In Manus peak a tank rolled up on [A] where it raises in elevation a lot and flew in the air, OVER THE NULL CANNON by about 10 meters and landed around 30 meters away from Alpha. That's ******* ridiculous. ^^^ Twas Tony Hawk.
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 155	Posted - 2013.12.12 04:01:00 - [24] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Tanks are fine...I'm still blowing em up no problem. I find they are more vulnerable now actually. Played you guys earlier. Very fun match. And thank you for someone being slightly refreshing. Tanks arent impossible to kill, they are just what they are supposed to be. Hulking mobile armored death machines that for some reason people try and solo left and right. Dedicated scout. New player tutor; scout instructor Scrambler Pistol dedication
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Top Men. 1424	Posted - 2013.12.12 04:05:00 - [25] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Tanks are fine...I'm still blowing em up no problem. I find they are more vulnerable now actually. Played you guys earlier. Very fun match. And thank you for someone being slightly refreshing. Tanks arent impossible to kill, they are just what they are supposed to be. Hulking mobile armored death machines that for some reason people try and solo left and right. because they can be soloed and they should be. I will find the way. One player should be countered by one player. Not one player requires half the damn team to take out
Our Deepest Regret The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 355	Posted - 2013.12.12 04:07:00 - [26] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Our Deepest Regret wrote: AV will get buffed, it's inevitable. As long as vehicle prices remain the same, it'll sting a lot less when they do. I will say though, that My gunlogi is for blowing up other tanks or getting blown up by other tanks. It's kind of nice that Infantry can't butt in anymore. This dumbass comment has rekindled my interest in this game. I will be returning to test methods for destroying your shiny, stupid toys within the next two days. We shall see how the forge guns perform under high stress combat now Oh, no! A spanner in the works! /tremble.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1860	Posted - 2013.12.12 04:38:00 - [27] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Loving the infantry tears. My only complaint is that REs and proximity mines could use a slight buff. Proxys need a buff to 1k dam RE's are pretty good but buffing them to 2k wouldn't be terrible either FG's might need a little more juice LAV's might need a slight HP nerf, I like them to be fast, not super strong and fast AV nades might need 100 HP more damage SL's just 75 more Meters of lock on range Tanks will be fine with the Nitrous getting fixed, tbqh though, it wouldn't hurt to make more people in the tank something a tanker would like so that a tank would have to have 2-3 people to make it equal with the 2-3 that need to blow it up with AV. I'm not saying to make it a nessecity but to make it where large turrets are more difficult to use VS infantry and let small turrets be that small line that either protects the tank in CQC or help blow up other tanks. DSes are fine and deserve being a viable force on the battlefield Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a normal person, if I seem like a douche it's because I hate 90% of people on these forums
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 156	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:01:00 - [28] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Tanks are fine...I'm still blowing em up no problem. I find they are more vulnerable now actually. Played you guys earlier. Very fun match. And thank you for someone being slightly refreshing. Tanks arent impossible to kill, they are just what they are supposed to be. Hulking mobile armored death machines that for some reason people try and solo left and right. because they can be soloed and they should be. I will find the way. One player should be countered by one player. Not one player requires half the damn team to take out A tank really shouldnt be able to be soloed, unless their militia. A properly fit tank, should honestly take an entire squad to take down. If you think about it, a person specced solely into tanks will now spend anywhere from 200k and up on their vehicle. If you kill them once then there goes their profit. This was a good thing on ccp to make them cheaper. Then if they lose another in the match, thats cutting into next games profits. If they keep losing tanks it is their fault but once their tank is gone a dedicated tanker usually doesn't have anything but starter classes to fall back on. Dedicated tanks should be scary, and I for one love this about them now. Dedicated scout. New player tutor; scout instructor Scrambler Pistol dedication
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1530	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:04:00 - [29] - Quote throw on av and kill them "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1530	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:07:00 - [30] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Tanks are fine...I'm still blowing em up no problem. I find they are more vulnerable now actually. Played you guys earlier. Very fun match. And thank you for someone being slightly refreshing. Tanks arent impossible to kill, they are just what they are supposed to be. Hulking mobile armored death machines that for some reason people try and solo left and right. because they can be soloed and they should be. I will find the way. One player should be countered by one player. Not one player requires half the damn team to take out A tank really shouldnt be able to be soloed, unless their militia. A properly fit tank, should honestly take an entire squad to take down. If you think about it, a person specced solely into tanks will now spend anywhere from 200k and up on their vehicle. If you kill them once then there goes their profit. This was a good thing on ccp to make them cheaper. Then if they lose another in the match, thats cutting into next games profits. If they keep losing tanks it is their fault but once their tank is gone a dedicated tanker usually doesn't have anything but starter classes to fall back on. Dedicated tanks should be scary, and I for one love this about them now. It can and will be soloed if the hardeners are down and if the av player is using the right weapons. Plasma/flux for shields. Swarms/Av nades for armor. Forge for both "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå

MarasdF Loron Dark Knightz Corp. 155	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:13:00 - [31] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Tanks are fine...I'm still blowing em up no problem. I find they are more vulnerable now actually. ^ This. They now require much more coordination to take them down, but once you figure it out it's easier than ever before. And proto AV still shows us who's boss.
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 205	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:25:00 - [32] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir. You should get that warp speed module that every tank I see seems to have. I agree that it should take more than one person but I've been in larger groups than 3 trying to take out tanks and they just move too fast right now. I think if they couldn't outrun 3/4 of the AV weapons/grenades currently available, it would be fine. Im sure it will get fixed, I doubt its suposed to be 100% speed buff, tho they will cry when logis finaly get their vehical webiffier. I use shield tanks and overdrives where removed so i havenrt got to try the rocket speed tanks much yet besid some goofing around with tank races. I dont see anyone complaining about Proto missle tanks 1 shotting almost every other tank out there because they can shoot their entire clip instantaniously. I think its broken but what ever.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER REDLINE ASSAULT OPERATIONS 20	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:39:00 - [33] - Quote calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. I suppress my pain of laughter. That happened to me several times today. That shouldn't be funny but it is. XD 'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT When in doubt, shoot the hostage. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 158	Posted - 2013.12.12 08:08:00 - [34] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Tanks are fine...I'm still blowing em up no problem. I find they are more vulnerable now actually. Played you guys earlier. Very fun match. And thank you for someone being slightly refreshing. Tanks arent impossible to kill, they are just what they are supposed to be. Hulking mobile armored death machines that for some reason people try and solo left and right. because they can be soloed and they should be. I will find the way. One player should be countered by one player. Not one player requires half the damn team to take out A tank really shouldnt be able to be soloed, unless their militia. A properly fit tank, should honestly take an entire squad to take down. If you think about it, a person specced solely into tanks will now spend anywhere from 200k and up on their vehicle. If you kill them once then there goes their profit. This was a good thing on ccp to make them cheaper. Then if they lose another in the match, thats cutting into next games profits. If they keep losing tanks it is their fault but once their tank is gone a dedicated tanker usually doesn't have anything but starter classes to fall back on. Dedicated tanks should be scary, and I for one love this about them now. It can and will be soloed if the hardeners are down and if the av player is using the right weapons. Plasma/flux for shields. Swarms/Av nades for armor. Forge for both Of course. I was speaking on the tank playing to its strengths. If their under av fire and their defenses are down, then they should be able to be taken down through sustained fire. Dedicated scout. New player tutor; scout instructor Scrambler Pistol dedication
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4138	Posted - 2013.12.12 08:41:00 - [35] - Quote One player in a tank, versus one player on foot. The guy in the tank has the 200k+ (conservative estimate, my all-Militia Gunnlogi fitting is around 150k) tank, obviously, but ALSO whatever gear they're running on his Dropsuit - potentially another 200k pretty easily. For argument's sake, though, lets pretend the tanker is running a Starter Fit inside the tank. A Dropsuit with AV weaponry is a significant investment in and of itself, particuarly at Prototype level. Comparable to the value of a moderately-priced HAV, in fact. Assuming other players aren't getting involved on either side, this engagement can reasonably be expected to remain as a stalemate as long as neither player makes a mistake. It's not reasonable for a tank to advance aggressively against an AV player who can use cover to avoid most of the tank's fire up close. It's also unreasonable for the AV guy to try and press the attack solo because if he goes out in the open, he's dead. if the tank screws up and leaves itself exposed, the AV guy will capitalise by ripping him apart. If the AV guy lets himself be lured too far from safety, that tank will turn around and shred him before he can fall back. The big problem is that, right now, that lovely "warp speed module" gives a tank a "get out of DEATH free" option they can pull out when they make a potentially-lethal mistake.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 320	Posted - 2013.12.12 08:44:00 - [36] - Quote Atiim wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir. Because 3 people to take out 1 person is balanced. I have the strong feeling that this simple fact tankers will never understand nor accept.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 320	Posted - 2013.12.12 08:48:00 - [37] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: calvin b wrote: 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. You lost a game where the enemy had 6 tanks? That's something. If they have more than 2 tanks they're actually kind of at a disadvantage with 3 people who aren't able to cap a point and who can't participate in CQC. No they are not current takns are faster than light and so hard to kill that 6 tanks is more than enough to lock the entire map unles the other team starts to field 6 tanks as well.
skippy678 the.R3D.kings IMMORTAL REGIME 366	Posted - 2013.12.12 08:49:00 - [38] - Quote calvin b wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir. You did not read my post. It clearly says I along with 4 others, there was 5 of us using AV. I only try and solo a tank when its life or death or I can sneak up to them and maybe pull off a kill. me and my whole squad of AV including me with Wykormi complexx3 Prof5....hardly even made them back up Its ludacris....hey man I can snipe all day...and thats what everbody else is going to do,,camp/snipe/mcc..and then this game really dies off....its aready getting old with lack of levels/modes...i spent my first 6 months in this game sniping..I can only do it for so long. this adds up to horrible boring matches. i already got tons of those from scotty i dont need anymore...CCP is at its "cap" with me for boring onesided battles. U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 320	Posted - 2013.12.12 08:54:00 - [39] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Tanks are fine...I'm still blowing em up no problem. I find they are more vulnerable now actually. Played you guys earlier. Very fun match. And thank you for someone being slightly refreshing. Tanks arent impossible to kill, they are just what they are supposed to be. Hulking mobile armored death machines that for some reason people try and solo left and right. because they can be soloed and they should be. I will find the way. One player should be countered by one player. Not one player requires half the damn team to take out A tank really shouldnt be able to be soloed, unless their militia. A properly fit tank, should honestly take an entire squad to take down. If you think about it, a person specced solely into tanks will now spend anywhere from 200k and up on their vehicle. If you kill them once then there goes their profit. This was a good thing on ccp to make them cheaper. Then if they lose another in the match, thats cutting into next games profits. If they keep losing tanks it is their fault but once their tank is gone a dedicated tanker usually doesn't have anything but starter classes to fall back on. Dedicated tanks should be scary, and I for one love this about them now. And you think this is any different to a proto suit? As long as this game has fixed Team sizes there is no room for thing that require more than 1 person to beat. if you need more than 1 AV Infantry (HARD COUNTER) to bring down a tank you will create an imbalance as long as said tank can be used to max effectiveness by only one person. Math is not that hard to understand.
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 164	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:39:00 - [40] - Quote calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. Skill into forge-guns (as they're 'stronger' than they used to be comparatively to tanks), shoot weak spots, don't shoot while hardeners are up. Right now a lot of 'tankers' are abusing an (unintended?) module glitch where the militia speed booster gives +100% speed instead of the +10-30% it's supposed to. Tank's aren't invincible, you're just used to them being pathetically **ing weak for patches on end while AV was absolutely hilariously overpowered. Now that militia tanks no longer die to 2 clips of swarms, or 3 av grenades you just don't have a **ing clue what to do.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:43:00 - [41] - Quote calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. So you're unhappy with the vehicle balance pass that infantry forced on CCP. That's just too bad. Live with the consequences of your actions. You could also squad with a competent tanker... Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:48:00 - [42] - Quote Atiim wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir. Because 3 people to take out 1 person is balanced. You call yourself a tanker, yet use swarms to destroy tanks. You invalidate your own comments. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:51:00 - [43] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Our Deepest Regret wrote: AV will get buffed, it's inevitable. As long as vehicle prices remain the same, it'll sting a lot less when they do. I will say though, that My gunlogi is for blowing up other tanks or getting blown up by other tanks. It's kind of nice that Infantry can't butt in anymore. This dumbass comment has rekindled my interest in this game. I will be returning to test methods for destroying your shiny, stupid toys within the next two days. We shall see how the forge guns perform under high stress combat now Or, you know, you could squad with a competent tanker. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1308	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:52:00 - [44] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: calvin b wrote: 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. You lost a game where the enemy had 6 tanks? That's something. If they have more than 2 tanks they're actually kind of at a disadvantage with 3 people who aren't able to cap a point and who can't participate in CQC. Because you can just run out and do your thing with 6 tanks needing one of them to 2 shot you ? Capping points don't win battles, killing stuff and making sure it stays dead or deeply demotivated > Capping a Point anytime... Quote: Or, you know, you could squad with a competent tanker. and by competent Tanker they mean competent TANK, whoever drives it is irrelivant because most of their skills are none excistant...seen one of these skilled tankers fire for 5-6 seconds at me without scoring a single hit ....i mean ...learnToAimDude Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:53:00 - [45] - Quote calvin b wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: calvin b wrote: 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. You lost a game where the enemy had 6 tanks? That's something. If they have more than 2 tanks they're actually kind of at a disadvantage with 3 people who aren't able to cap a point and who can't participate in CQC. I was in ambush and there was a squad following the tanks. The tanks blocked the entry to the city and used the squad to kill off any AV. The tanks kept us from leaving our red line, they move so fast that my scout was no match. I have complex Biotics and I was running to lay uplinks in the city and a tank comes roaring out of nowhere and kills me Why are you in ambush instead of skirmish or domination for FW / PC conditions? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:04:00 - [46] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Atiim wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir. Because 3 people to take out 1 person is balanced. I have the strong feeling that this simple fact tankers will never understand nor accept. What's unreasonable about a tank being its own best counter? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 158	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:08:00 - [47] - Quote Just played a match on my tanker alt. I applaud the person for trying but a single militia swarm launcher firing repeatedly froom a roof where my rail couldn't reach him just got ignored. This actually brings up a good point. Turret elevation is limited...so why not use that to your advantage as well. All complaining swarm users get on the rooftops of the smaller buildings and I just cant aim up enough to hit you without getting some range. If he had some backup when the person was up there with his swarms, maybe It might have eventually pushed me back. I did have to retreat vs 3 forges that pushed me back a little bit but they stopped gunning for me and I just rolled back in. Props to that little caldari for trying though. Also sniped a thale with my railgun! Made me smile. Dedicated scout. New player tutor; scout instructor Scrambler Pistol dedication
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:10:00 - [48] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. Skill into forge-guns (as they're 'stronger' than they used to be comparatively to tanks), shoot weak spots, don't shoot while hardeners are up. Right now a lot of 'tankers' are abusing an (unintended?) module glitch where the militia speed booster gives +100% speed instead of the +10-30% it's supposed to. Tank's aren't invincible, you're just used to them being pathetically **ing weak for patches on end while AV was absolutely hilariously overpowered. Now that militia tanks no longer die to 2 clips of swarms, or 3 av grenades you just don't have a **ing clue what to do. I beat out a tank with a Sica because I waited out his modules. He was probably embarrassed about that. Note: I was using a Sica on an alt because I can. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1308	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:12:00 - [49] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: Atiim wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir. Because 3 people to take out 1 person is balanced. I have the strong feeling that this simple fact tankers will never understand nor accept. What's unreasonable about a tank being its own best counter? Because then the game should ask for people upfront if they are a Tank or Infantry before dropping 16 people randomly into a game, it should balanace out tanks vs tanks then...not drop in maybe 16 tankers vs 16 Militia geared Accademy players If noone has Tank skills, its hard to pull out a tank Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:13:00 - [50] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: calvin b wrote: 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. You lost a game where the enemy had 6 tanks? That's something. If they have more than 2 tanks they're actually kind of at a disadvantage with 3 people who aren't able to cap a point and who can't participate in CQC. Because you can just run out and do your thing with 6 tanks needing one of them to 2 shot you ? Capping points don't win battles, killing stuff and making sure it stays dead or deeply demotivated > Capping a Point anytime... Quote: Or, you know, you could squad with a competent tanker. and by competent Tanker they mean competent TANK, whoever drives it is irrelivant because most of their skills are none excistant...seen one of these skilled tankers fire for 5-6 seconds at me without scoring a single hit ....i mean ...learnToAimDude Have you tried your hand at tanking for a month straight, instead of PRO stomping people straight out of the academy? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:17:00 - [51] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: Atiim wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: Word of advice... QUIT TRYING TO SOLO TANKS! I have a tanker alt and every time a solo person trys to kill my tank its laughable, but most times 3 or even 2 people try to AV me at the same time i die. and thats how it should be. Goodnight dear sir. Because 3 people to take out 1 person is balanced. I have the strong feeling that this simple fact tankers will never understand nor accept. What's unreasonable about a tank being its own best counter? Because then the game should ask for people upfront if they are a Tank or Infantry before dropping 16 people randomly into a game, it should balanace out tanks vs tanks then...not drop in maybe 16 tankers vs 16 Militia geared Accademy players If noone has Tank skills, its hard to pull out a tank You obviously have no idea the trouble MLT tanks caused during Chromosome for ADV tanks. Oh, and note: can't deploy 16 vehicles per side. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 828	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:35:00 - [52] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Our Deepest Regret wrote: AV will get buffed, it's inevitable. As long as vehicle prices remain the same, it'll sting a lot less when they do. I will say though, that My gunlogi is for blowing up other tanks or getting blown up by other tanks. It's kind of nice that Infantry can't butt in anymore. This dumbass comment has rekindled my interest in this game. I will be returning to test methods for destroying your shiny, stupid toys within the next two days. We shall see how the forge guns perform under high stress combat now YEAH!!! Breakin's BACK!! Just watch while Breakin's makin' bacon outta those tanks Good luck tho bro, they haul SO much ass. It's dangerous to travel the forums alone, take this! (.:'Honeyed'Lamb**':.) FIX TTK & MINSUITS (GîÉ_GîÉ )
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1308	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:47:00 - [53] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: calvin b wrote: 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. You lost a game where the enemy had 6 tanks? That's something. If they have more than 2 tanks they're actually kind of at a disadvantage with 3 people who aren't able to cap a point and who can't participate in CQC. Because you can just run out and do your thing with 6 tanks needing one of them to 2 shot you ? Capping points don't win battles, killing stuff and making sure it stays dead or deeply demotivated > Capping a Point anytime... Quote: Or, you know, you could squad with a competent tanker. and by competent Tanker they mean competent TANK, whoever drives it is irrelivant because most of their skills are none excistant...seen one of these skilled tankers fire for 5-6 seconds at me without scoring a single hit ....i mean ...learnToAimDude Have you tried your hand at tanking for a month straight, instead of PRO stomping people straight out of the academy? I am not wearing my pro suit to stomp new people, i am wearing it for when i go up against full teams or double teams or you know tanks on the field, as you might have noticed i don't run in a teams, much rather play against 2 stacked teams so i can push myself You know in how much matches the opposing side has a team when playing solo ? ...like every match.... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
MarasdF Loron Dark Knightz Corp. 155	Posted - 2013.12.12 11:15:00 - [54] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: calvin b wrote: 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. You lost a game where the enemy had 6 tanks? That's something. If they have more than 2 tanks they're actually kind of at a disadvantage with 3 people who aren't able to cap a point and who can't participate in CQC. Because you can just run out and do your thing with 6 tanks needing one of them to 2 shot you ? Capping points don't win battles, killing stuff and making sure it stays dead or deeply demotivated > Capping a Point anytime... Quote: Or, you know, you could squad with a competent tanker. and by competent Tanker they mean competent TANK, whoever drives it is irrelivant because most of their skills are none excistant...seen one of these skilled tankers fire for 5-6 seconds at me without scoring a single hit ....i mean ...learnToAimDude Have you heard of hit detection and latency issues? When infantry strafes constantly from left to right to left I keep getting hit marks but nothing happens. So aiming (with issues) =/= overall skill. Sometimes my target can actually stand perfectly still and I keep getting hit marks but he/she doesn't lose any health.
nickmunson Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder. 2	Posted - 2013.12.12 11:30:00 - [55] - Quote well anti tankers there is a solution. i kill tanks left and right. just watched for me in a battle. i see a tank i can garauntee you unless hes in the red line. i will blow him up lol. god i love me. anyone who doesnt like tanks. and has been playing for a while join my corp capital aquisitions. and trust me you will never fear another tank again. love me or hate me. you kill me i hunt you.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 356	Posted - 2013.12.12 11:34:00 - [56] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. So you're unhappy with the vehicle balance pass that infantry forced on CCP. That's just too bad. Live with the consequences of your actions. You could also squad with a competent tanker... Yeah right. Infantry demanded a tank buff didn't they, the same way they demanded that tankers got a respec. Nothing at all to do with the torrents of QQ from scrubby tankers who can't even hit a 3 KDR, when Duna is over 25.
nickmunson Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder. 2	Posted - 2013.12.12 11:36:00 - [57] - Quote well folks there is an easy way to kill tanks. and for thos experience players who want to play with out fear of tanks just join my corp. trust me. just look me up in monthly leader boards. tank killing is what i do. for fun. i garauntee you if i see a tank in my match it always gets blown up. just watch for me in matches . or send an email for a squad invite and ill prove i can blow up a tank love me or hate me. you kill me i hunt you.
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1191	Posted - 2013.12.12 13:42:00 - [58] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. Skill into forge-guns (as they're 'stronger' than they used to be comparatively to tanks), shoot weak spots, don't shoot while hardeners are up. Right now a lot of 'tankers' are abusing an (unintended?) module glitch where the militia speed booster gives +100% speed instead of the +10-30% it's supposed to. Tank's aren't invincible, you're just used to them being pathetically **ing weak for patches on end while AV was absolutely hilariously overpowered. Now that militia tanks no longer die to 2 clips of swarms, or 3 av grenades you just don't have a ing clue what to do. I have Forge to to proficiency 3. Now please explain to me how a tanked out heavy is supposed to keep up with these I just did 3 lines of C* along with some P*P and I can run for days tanks. They out run swarms and LAV's. Trying to get a clean shot on one is ridiculously hard at the moment. I tried, as a tanker went up and down the street, when my charge was ready and on target I fired, zipped away and was now into cover. A heavy only has an LAV to keep up with a tank and when a tank can out run your LAV or a red line rail tanks can destroy it one shot good luck. Do not get me started on trying to fly a dropship, need I say more when I say red line and rail tank. The evil hidden in the name
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1191	Posted - 2013.12.12 13:47:00 - [59] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: calvin b wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: calvin b wrote: 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. You lost a game where the enemy had 6 tanks? That's something. If they have more than 2 tanks they're actually kind of at a disadvantage with 3 people who aren't able to cap a point and who can't participate in CQC. I was in ambush and there was a squad following the tanks. The tanks blocked the entry to the city and used the squad to kill off any AV. The tanks kept us from leaving our red line, they move so fast that my scout was no match. I have complex Biotics and I was running to lay uplinks in the city and a tank comes roaring out of nowhere and kills me Why are you in ambush instead of skirmish or domination for FW / PC conditions? Well playing the same thing over and over again gets a bit stale. Ambush is out, I cant stand some of the trolling going on in FW both by players and FF and domination is starting to get out of hand some times. I may go to skirmish, but I am not sure at the moment how I am going to play this out. The evil hidden in the name
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1865	Posted - 2013.12.12 13:49:00 - [60] - Quote calvin b wrote: 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. - Militia overdrive 100% speed bug 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. - BS its been shot at well before you spawned in 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. - Where was your teams AV/Tanks, also pub match lolmatchmaking 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C - Militia overdrive 100% speed bug 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. - 7 vehicle limit, 2 in each tank, no problem So 2 points are to do with a bug that is getting fixed 1 point is meh because its being shot at 2 points of pub games and crappy matchmaking

Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 4070	Posted - 2013.12.12 13:52:00 - [61] - Quote calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. Many of your grievances are being caused by the Militia Nitrous module providing a 100% bonus to speed and acceleration rather than 10%. As well, I think we can say at this point that while the reduction in cost of modules for HAVs was most certainly needed, the reduction we got was a bit overzealous. I mean, if you saw ZionShad's thread the other day, we've had a suit killed in an orbital that was 160k. You can now make an effective HAV for only 180k if you use the right modules. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1191	Posted - 2013.12.12 13:55:00 - [62] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: calvin b wrote: 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. - Militia overdrive 100% speed bug 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. - BS its been shot at well before you spawned in 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. - Where was your teams AV/Tanks, also pub match lolmatchmaking 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C - Militia overdrive 100% speed bug 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. - 7 vehicle limit, 2 in each tank, no problem So 2 points are to do with a bug that is getting fixed 1 point is meh because its being shot at 2 points of pub games and crappy matchmaking No I am not kidding on number 2. I was running out of my red line when I see a missile tank racing my way. I stop to hide and watch this missile tank empty I do not know how many missiles in one shot into the supply depot. It was the fastest I had ever seen a missile tank fire, then I see that all missile turrets are firing the same way. The supply depot had no damage what so ever. So I am over it, after a few days of tankers paradise I am numb to the fact The evil hidden in the name
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 272	Posted - 2013.12.12 14:01:00 - [63] - Quote Jesus, thank you to the 2 (2!!!!) people who pointed out hardeners. Hey, AV guys, if the tank's flashy, don't shoot! I learned that from day 1 with my militia forge (CCP, release the Amarr AV already!). Shield hardeners last for anywhere between 24 - 30 seconds. (Depending on skills) Armor hardeners last for anywhere between 36 and 45 seconds. (Depending on skills) I can make a dent in armor tanks with my militia forge gun while not trying to shoot through their hardeners. I have an alt that uses Shield tanks (CCP, release the Amarr vehicles already!), and when the hardeners aren't up, it pops pretty quickly. Especially now that rail guns fire so much faster (including turrets) and don't overheat nearly as much.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1865	Posted - 2013.12.12 14:02:00 - [64] - Quote calvin b wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: calvin b wrote: 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. - Militia overdrive 100% speed bug 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. - BS its been shot at well before you spawned in 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. - Where was your teams AV/Tanks, also pub match lolmatchmaking 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C - Militia overdrive 100% speed bug 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. - 7 vehicle limit, 2 in each tank, no problem So 2 points are to do with a bug that is getting fixed 1 point is meh because its being shot at 2 points of pub games and crappy matchmaking No I am not kidding on number 2. I was running out of my red line when I see a missile tank racing my way. I stop to hide and watch this missile tank empty I do not know how many missiles in one shot into the supply depot. It was the fastest I had ever seen a missile tank fire, then I see that all missile turrets are firing the same way. The supply depot had no damage what so ever. So I am over it, after a few days of tankers paradise I am numb to the fact Missiles have 12 in the clip, get rid of the shield and it will do 120% to armor, add in a 30% damage mod and its dead Few days? how about try 6+months of AV paradise, this is nothing you would cry if these changes were set in stone for 6months
chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 112	Posted - 2013.12.12 14:28:00 - [65] - Quote Our Deepest Regret wrote: calvin b wrote: I for one am sick of the tanker BS. I spoke out against the AV nerf and everyone told be to STFU. They said they were to strong and they needed a nerf. Now tanks are invincible and if someones says well throw on AV and kill them, I want to smack you. How many games have you been in where there is only one tank. Every match I have been in have had at least three tanks roaming around. I along with 4 individuals were firing away at a Soma a F*** militia piece of S* Soma and we barely destroyed it. We lost the game due to half the team fighting off the hoard of tanks. So here is a list of BS I have seen thanks to CCP making tanks OP. 1. Boulder gulch or whatever it is called. Watched a tank drive straight up the wall and kill everyone trying to defend themselves. 2. Just spawned in, beginning of the match when I witnessed a Missile Tank pull up to our red line and destroy our supply depot in one shot. 3. Was stuck inside a building as 6 tanks circled outside. 4. Watched a tank drive up the side of a mountain in Mantis Peak and made a short cut to C 5. Me and another were the only ones trying to capture an objective in Domination as our other 14 team mates rode around in tanks and circled the city the whole match. Unless this fixed soon CCP I for one will not be cannon fodder for tanker. I will sit in the MCC or deep in the red line and just camp. Cant do anything else, try and capture an objective or kill a red your gunned down by a swarm of tanks or a DS that hovers over head, which you cant take it out thanks to swarms range being useless. This is a warning to tankers. You wanted to be taken serious and wanted a chance to be competitive, if these stupid shenanigans continue the nerf hammer will come. So CCP please fix this mess so we can have a fun and a exciting game. Where tankers and infantry can play at a level that is competitive and fun. Calvin, the 100% speed nitro is a bug, don't expect it to be around much longer. Tanks are faster now and do handle better, but don't sweat it thinking these guys are going to be sonic the hedgehog forever. Unless they're planning to do a hotfix. I'll give it to Wednesday at the latest. I don't use the militia booster. Why get used to something that won't last? Also, it feels like cheating. and there isn't much you can do tos stop a squad of tankers. same goes for a squad of teamplayers using proto. you think the tanks are bad? you shoulda seen teamplayers in 1.6, fking nightmare


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