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Jaysyn Larrisen
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Posted - 2013.12.19 21:07:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:Kaal Rail Rifle, Duv TAC, Six Kin CR and Imp SR are all wicked. Best of the best when it comes to guns. Get used to it. To nerf one and not the others you will create imbalance. Now the LR needs a buff.
I don't always agree with Rowdy...but when it do, it's about rifle balance. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
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Posted - 2013.12.19 21:26:00 -
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The AR will not be touched. We have already been through the AR nerve before. I personally think the AR is just about right.[/quote]
Ok...I'm a ways through this thread and have to comment on this.
Sir Petersen,
Just to be clear; I honestly don't see why you think the RR is OP. Overpowered implies that it is significatly different in a way that provides a major advantage to the user. Before the RR and CR came out people were screaming that the AR was OP; then the SCR was OP; now the new rifles are. If all are OP then by defnition none of them are.
I'm pretty sure that in their optimal engagement range and situation each of the rifles is "OP". The Duvolle will shred guys in tighter quarters and against multiple targets; you still have little to no recoil for 20+ rounds. The SCR is clearly the deadliest weapon to me since it eats through my shields at lightening speed. The CR let's you duel at mid-range and close the gaps to short range fighting better than any other weapon.
The most signifcant advantage, by game design and EVE lore, is simply the range of the RR. It rewards you for staying in optimal ranges and decrements you for closing in. Just like the AR rewards you for short range fighting and decrements you for fighting at extended ranges.
As noted by a few folks on this thread; TTK is low for everyone. If you have maxed out AR skills your Toxin AR is a buzzsaw through my Proto CalAssault suit. Throw some damage mods on their and it's even worse.
I've sunk a lot of SP in to RR - OP 5, Prof 4, Reload 2, Ammo 3, Optimizaiton 3. This rifle actually lets me shield tank very effectvely, work mid to long range engagemetns and perfectly fits the caldari racial style. In open maps or areas where I can get into a support by fire position on a flank I am very effective. In close quarters or against multiple targets the spool time, small clip, and long reload time are deadly....I routinely go to my SMG for these type of engagements.
I respect the adamant way you are putting forward your position but I don't see it. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.19 21:49:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:I-Śm starting to accept it more now after using it for some days. Still making massive damage to my scout fit when I get hit. I still think this weapon is in for a nerve.
I didn't catch this till just now...scout suit? Bro...a thrown rock will blap you and you're complaining about the RR?!
ps...you might want to check your auto correct. Nerve =/= Nerf. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
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Posted - 2013.12.20 14:43:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:I-Śm starting to accept it more now after using it for some days. Still making massive damage to my scout fit when I get hit. I still think this weapon is in for a nerve. I didn't catch this till just now...scout suit? Bro...a thrown rock will blap you and you're complaining about the RR?! ps...you might want to check your auto correct. Nerve =/= Nerf. I-Śm icelandic dude. Make spelling mistakes occasionally.. Buff it, nerf it,, All the same to me. I-Śm still gonna continue dominating in this game with my AR, Scout suit & Drop Uplinks :) I can understand that the RR is better from longer distances but I-Śm finding it harder to swallow when doing close up combat. Hipfire is too strong. I-Śm gonna skill into this weapon if things stay the same. I-Śm rocking it at level 1 so I can only imagine how good it is maxed out. OP4sure.
Sounds good - I respect you rocking the scout suit and being willing to at least hear other people out and have a good discussion with them.
Hope to see you in the warbarge. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:40:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I just wish the longest range rifle in the game wasn't so hilariously OP in CQC
And AR, SCR, CR aren't? What makes it hilariously OP in relations to other weapons?
CCP didn't nerf Duvolles and they are the best thing going in CQC outside of a maxed out SMG. |
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