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Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
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Posted - 2013.12.11 08:47:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:more fun to drive
BROKEN!
There is no balance with vehicles at all anymore. I say anymore because with the previous changes to SL you could at least make a tank run for cover with a pair (2) of AVers. Now its an impossibility!
Likewise with DS having to be hovering over an installation for you to be able to reach them with a strike.
CHRIST! I'll take a single fire PlsmCannon that will target 250m if it'll lock, and hit a tank/DS for 3000. Give me a 5 sec reload to keep it "balanced" if you have to.
In the real world a $3,000 rocket launcher can kill a $1,000,000 jet or armor. If there's an economy at work sell us hardware that'll kill what we're aiming at!
"May the gods place the burden upon us"
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Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
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Posted - 2013.12.11 09:44:00 -
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Bhor Derri wrote:I don't want to add more fuel to the flames right now but the changes have improved dust much more than any other point release to date, if I were to explain this with new eden logic (which I must because some of you are still unfamilliar with it) would look like this:
Let's take scout suits as frigs, lightest suits in the game that would make assaults,logis cruisers and heavies battlecruisers.
With the current skillset and modules vehicles in Dust resemble capitals in eve than anything else; different skills that affect differnt modules , separate command and core skills and vice versa, but the HAVs in dust seem to be like battleships now more than ever, the closed beta vets will remember the surya and the sagaris , they were supposed to have siege mods, but it was more like the bastion mod in the 'marauders' in EVE(!).
So you are saying than it is hard for you to take out a battleship/dread with inferior gear and tactics and claim that it is wrong somehow; this is in no way a personal attack but if you think you can take out a target several leagues above you without thought nor tactics you are gravely mistaken.
To, perhaps make it easier to deal with tanks, get a tank of your own. It will make life much better for you, unless you have not a notion of how different vehicles are to dropsuits and their different pros and cons don't incite discussions absent purpose.
If you have a proper reason to why you are right please let me know.
Simply put this is not EVE. This is not space navy, ship to ship combat. Dust was pitched as the ground component In New Eden, but was never supposed to be EVE with suits instead.
You cannot compare a straight vehicle combat situation to one which is varied between the vehicles available and infantry. Its ridiculous. Limiting the game to "bring out a tank to counter a tank" is a surefire way to kill this game as it would become Tank 514.
"May the gods place the burden upon us"
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Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
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Posted - 2013.12.11 09:52:00 -
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IraqiFriendshipExplosive wrote:I just came out of a match where I killed about 3 tanks by myself. A 4th tank was taken out easily with the help of someone else.
Heavy suit , 2 complex heavy damage mods and a militia forge gun. 3 shots and those tanks die easily.
I guess I could have been very lucky with the module timings but I was hidden away popping up where they least expected me.
My argument still stands that the current state of AV is broken and no longer fills the role it was intended for.... so then everyone fits heavies with forge guns and things shift again. Why is it so bad to say there should be a light AV weapon with appropriate damage, which leaves its user vulnerable?
An infantry member should never be given the power to be invincible. That's stupid. So is a weapon that doesn't work. Also stupid.
"May the gods place the burden upon us"
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Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:00:00 -
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Then you have a game where only tanks get deployed... its not Tanks 514
"May the gods place the burden upon us"
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Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:03:00 -
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How about an AV fit that costs the same ISK and SP as a comparable HAV and CAN kill it?
Anyone?
"May the gods place the burden upon us"
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