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God Hates Lags
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.10 18:20:00 -
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You will be missed old friend, here's to hoping that one day we may meet again in CQC paradise.
Doubles ISK
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1254
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Posted - 2013.12.10 18:21:00 -
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I was storming people with it and it was wonderful. RR, CR- it doesn't matter. The heavy with HMG will continue to live on. Just now that his respawns are a bit sooner than before.
If you go down, take two of those bastards with you.
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
235
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Posted - 2013.12.10 18:57:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:I was storming people with it and it was wonderful. RR, CR- it doesn't matter. The heavy with HMG will continue to live on. Just now that his respawns are a bit sooner than before.
If you go down, take two of those bastards with you.
You sir are a champion but my isk can't take the punishment
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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TuFar Gon
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2013.12.10 19:01:00 -
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 will NEVER die,,,,,,,,,HMG REIGN SUPREME!! |
Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
315
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Posted - 2013.12.10 19:05:00 -
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Now that Ground FORGIN is gone, we Heavy are left few choice
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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Stevez WingYip
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2013.12.10 19:13:00 -
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I can't help but think that HMG users get more screwed haha. We are so slow and these other weapons have more range and do almost as much damage.
It's rather annoying haha. But I will stay true to my HMG. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4613
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Posted - 2013.12.10 19:18:00 -
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TuFar Gon wrote: will NEVER die,,,,,,,,,HMG REIGN SUPREME!!
lolno
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
747
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Posted - 2013.12.10 19:39:00 -
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though our precious HMG may be outclassed by every single weapon, i shall make it my mission to teach CCP devs the horrors of the HMG when the dev hunting season begins.
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!!
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Superhero Rawdon
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
113
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:17:00 -
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sad face 
i bleed chocolate milk........and poop batarangs
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
987
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:28:00 -
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the hmg is very situational. too situational. but I got a handful of kills with it in my first match in the right situation. |
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Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:28:00 -
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God Hates Lags wrote:You will be missed old friend, here's to hoping that one day we may meet again in CQC paradise.
Did CCP nerf the HMG again? |
God Hates Lags
Red Star.
EoN.
568
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:31:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:God Hates Lags wrote:You will be missed old friend, here's to hoping that one day we may meet again in CQC paradise. Did CCP nerf the HMG again?
No but with the new weapons more powerful than ever the fact that HMG remains the same is a de facto nerf. When a weapon with three times it's optimal range outperforms it in CQC, there's really no point to it but the huge clip.
Doubles ISK
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
647
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Posted - 2013.12.10 21:23:00 -
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Combat rifle has a higher DPS and is more accurate with longer range.
RIP HMG |
lee corwood
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
13
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Posted - 2013.12.10 21:59:00 -
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So long as I have my rep tool, I will always give Heavies love. Long live the heavies!!!
Pure Logi
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DJINN Nukem
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
52
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:13:00 -
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**** that ****, I ran heavy when it was badass... I ran heavy when it was way worse than it is now, and **** you Conformist AR users go play CoD and cry with the other 5 year old gamers,
Heavy may have been beaten down again but.... Come at me *****.
Trample The Weak Hurdle the Dead
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Hynox Xitio
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
0
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:20:00 -
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As someone who's invested almost 11 million skillpoints into prototype HMGs and Sentinels, and a heavy exclusively since the days of Chromosome, the HMG is inferior and irrelevant in every way to the Combat Rifle aside from ammo capacity. I can't have good matches anymore, the CR destroys me every time in CQC.
I would like to thank all my fellow heavies out their, retaining their headstrong ways, your doings god's work.
As for CCP, I wish for them a thousand fiery demons to descend upon them and drag them down to the deepest pits of hell.
(PLZ BUFF HMG) |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1654
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:28:00 -
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God Hates Lags wrote:You will be missed old friend, here's to hoping that one day we may meet again in CQC paradise.
Go all or nothing like I do.
Grab a corpmate with a proto logi with a Focused Core repper, injector, Nanohives and REs, pile on nothing but armor on your suit, and stake out an indoor objective and never ever let it go.
I use a proto-sentinel, 1 Complex D mod, 4 Complex Armor Plates, 1 Boundless HMG with maxed prof (At 817DPS I can even make proto assault rifles think twice about out-damaging me in CQC), and at depending on your skills you'll have 4-6 PG left (Depending on your HMG Fitting Op skill level) for grenades and a sidearm.
817DPS, 600 shields and 1194 armor being repped at 170/sec makes a powerful "Don't tread on me" for indoor objectives.
On the other hand this only works in skirmish so "lol" for other game modes.
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves
Zero-Day
98
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:30:00 -
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Don't forget the laser now I die before I can even heat the thing up. So much for the niche weapons, they were one of the few things that made this game interesting. |
lok rark
StealthSquad
13
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Posted - 2013.12.10 23:33:00 -
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I just threw all my Sentinel/ Basic crap into a pile on the flight deck, and set it all on fire. The Heavy was why I wanted to play this game...well not THIS game.... the one that allowed Heavies.
Im considering burning my MD now also.
I thought I could play this game MY way....  But I wasted 10 Mil Sp on Heavy and Mass. Now they want me to use Combat AR till they nerf.
Hey this game plays exactly how they want it, no heavy, no scout, no MD. AR only. |
Orion Vahid
DUST University
Ivy League
207
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Posted - 2013.12.10 23:38:00 -
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CCP is a ******* moron when it comes to fixing weapons. How long did scouts complain about the shotgun until they finally got some fixes?
Come back in 10 years and maybe HMG will be fixed lol. |
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1238
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Posted - 2013.12.10 23:49:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Combat rifle has a higher DPS
Your statement is patently false.
Combat Rifle DPS = 423 (and that's ignoring the charge up time)
HMG DPS = 600
You can make arguments all day about how the HMG underperforms, and I'd back you up. But let's not spread misinformation, people.
The HMG was before, and still remains, the highest DPS infantry weapon in the game (possibly beside the shotgun, but that's hard to calculate).
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Vyuru
Bojo's School of the Trades
32
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Posted - 2013.12.11 00:26:00 -
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I have to say, the damage of the AR varients needs to be brought down.
Right even before this update I've seen way more heavies using ARs and Shotguns, and you know what?
They were a LOT more deadly than the normal HMG wielders.
That is just wrong IMO. |
lok rark
StealthSquad
14
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Posted - 2013.12.11 00:29:00 -
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Quote:
Combat Rifle DPS = 423 (and that's ignoring the charge up time)
HMG DPS = 600
You can make arguments all day about how the HMG underperforms, and I'd back you up. But let's not spread misinformation, people.
Your statement is patently false.
We need to spread as much misinformation as possible untill HMG fix!  We should all say its OP so they buff it ;)
Or wait... are you running by counter CCP logic right?
From what I have seen and read, even when shown proof a weapon needs a fix, CCP dont care enought to even post a soonTM anymore. I dont think Heavies going silent (AR) is going to fix the HMG.
I cant even gun down a starter anymore. My HMG sprays and flails. I have more control with a MD.
The fact I won a ton of proto HMG and still havn't been awarded yet or will never use them is BS!
Also now you can buy Proto AUR HMG for LP... but I payed millions of ISK/SP for all of mine... you know... all the ones I still have.
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TuFar Gon
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:32:00 -
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DJINN Nukem wrote:**** that ****, I ran heavy when it was badass... I ran heavy when it was way worse than it is now, and **** you Conformist AR users go play CoD and cry with the other 5 year old gamers,
Heavy may have been beaten down again but.... Come at me *****.
Thats right!!
THATS MUTHR F_-ók1-¦g RIGHT!! ( did'nt cuss CCP )
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TuFar Gon
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:38:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:TuFar Gon wrote: will NEVER die,,,,,,,,,HMG REIGN SUPREME!! lolno
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
241
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:35:00 -
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* Comes in to find his HMG sitting on the table ...then guiltily looks down at the ACR in his hands * B...Baby I...I can explain !!!
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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riddick 111
Third Rock From The Sun
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
0
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:01:00 -
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is it just me or does the HMG feel different since this update? |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
647
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:09:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Combat rifle has a higher DPS Your statement is patently false. Combat Rifle DPS = 423 (and that's ignoring the charge up time) HMG DPS = 600 You can make arguments all day about how the HMG underperforms, and I'd back you up. But let's not spread misinformation, people. The HMG was before, and still remains, the highest DPS infantry weapon in the game (possibly beside the shotgun, but that's hard to calculate).
Charge time? Also I'm getting 704 dps for proto combat rifle
35.2*1200=42240/60=704
While for proto HMG its
19.8*2000=39600/60=660 |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1246
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:11:00 -
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riddick 111 wrote:is it just me or does the HMG feel different since this update?
Honestly, I'm having much better luck with it.
Though I attribute that to the fact that I have a 100% free LAV now to use as a Battle Segway to get my fat ass into knife-fighting range. (Thanks for the free turret on the Guristas Saga, CCP!)
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1246
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:22:00 -
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Sorry for the double post, I just saw this:
Dexter307 wrote:[
Charge time? Also I'm getting 704 dps for proto combat rifle
35.2*1200=42240/60=704
While for proto HMG its
19.8*2000=39600/60=660
Here's the part where I make myself look like an idiot:
My numbers are for the Rail Rifle, which is why I mentioned the charge time.
Here's the part where it doesn't matter:
The 704 DPS you calculate for the Combat Rifle doesn't account for time between shot bursts or having to manually pull the trigger per burst. The gun doesn't actually do that DPS.
The most direct comparison would be the Assault Combat Rifle, which at proto level does 464 DPS. The basic HMG still does 22.6% more DPS than that.
Anway, +1 for calling me on my sh**. I hate spreading misinformation myself.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
648
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:53:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Sorry for the double post, I just saw this: Dexter307 wrote:[
Charge time? Also I'm getting 704 dps for proto combat rifle
35.2*1200=42240/60=704
While for proto HMG its
19.8*2000=39600/60=660 Here's the part where I make myself look like an idiot: My numbers are for the Rail Rifle, which is why I mentioned the charge time. Here's the part where it doesn't matter: The 704 DPS you calculate for the Combat Rifle doesn't account for time between shot bursts or having to manually pull the trigger per burst. The gun doesn't actually do that DPS. The most direct comparison would be the Assault Combat Rifle, which at proto level does 464 DPS. The basic HMG still does 22.6% more DPS than that. Anway, +1 for calling me on my sh**. I hate spreading misinformation myself.
True, but from my time with the CR there is either no delay or a VERY short delay |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe.
243
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:10:00 -
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If i'm honest i've noticed i'm getting a lot more damage from HMG's since 1.7 and several HMG users in corp have said they're noticing a lot more accuracy than 1.6. they're still not chromo level but they are at least getting better |
Naviticus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
8
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:45:00 -
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Do you guys remember the good ol' days when people would turn and run from a heavy with HMG? In 1.6 they made their debut again with the armor update(even though the HMG shot like a close range laser rifle) and now, they once again have gone into hiding because of the new armor based weapons.
But lets be honest...a medium or scout suit should always be able to take out a heavy.................right??? |
castba
Penguin's March
255
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:22:00 -
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Scouts should be able to take a heavy if evading and aiming well, but should also evaporate if caught.
Should be that age old power vs speed confrontation.
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Raden Yuno
6
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:52:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Sorry for the double post, I just saw this: Dexter307 wrote:[
Charge time? Also I'm getting 704 dps for proto combat rifle
35.2*1200=42240/60=704
While for proto HMG its
19.8*2000=39600/60=660 Here's the part where I make myself look like an idiot: My numbers are for the Rail Rifle, which is why I mentioned the charge time. Here's the part where it doesn't matter: The 704 DPS you calculate for the Combat Rifle doesn't account for time between shot bursts or having to manually pull the trigger per burst. The gun doesn't actually do that DPS. The most direct comparison would be the Assault Combat Rifle, which at proto level does 464 DPS. The basic HMG still does 22.6% more DPS than that. Anway, +1 for calling me on my sh**. I hate spreading misinformation myself.
For the burst we will see the return of modded controllers shooting constant streams of bullets. That's what's gonna make it OP. Right now it's fine but a week or so everyone will be using it with a modded controller. It's just like the old DTAC before nerf.
Escaping Freedom a Short Story
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
104
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:59:00 -
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Again, I want to see real Dev stats on why "ground" forging was removed.. and yes I have to use a A/R on my heavy as a result. |
castba
Penguin's March
256
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:06:00 -
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Ground forging was removed?
Explain how? |
Long Evity
707
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:09:00 -
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I've got my HMG for when I'm ready to get real and show Minamatar scum how many clones they'll burn through before they hack my objective.
But then, I also have my ScR for when I'm ready to show the scum again how fast they can lose there objective. 
But without my LLAV my incentive to play is low. :'(
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
764
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:22:00 -
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I will give you a moment of silence.....
Now that moment is gone. It's time fore action. Pair up HMG users. Have someone that can use free LAV's or split the price of a militia one.
Got three into a vehicle and run towards the enemy. When three of you pop out they will cry mercy. They will come to the forums and CRY OP. I'm tired of being shot down at 50 meters+ without ever being able to fre a shot knowing it wont even tickle my opponent.
Plasma Cannon Advocate
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
282
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Posted - 2013.12.12 16:07:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Combat rifle has a higher DPS Your statement is patently false. Combat Rifle DPS = 423 (and that's ignoring the charge up time) HMG DPS = 600 You can make arguments all day about how the HMG underperforms, and I'd back you up. But let's not spread misinformation, people. The HMG was before, and still remains, the highest DPS infantry weapon in the game (possibly beside the shotgun, but that's hard to calculate).
Combat rifle has no charge up time it's RR that has it
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