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8213 wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

The protostomp conversation is soooooooooooooooooooo old.

If teammates don't work together, protostomps happen. If intelligence is not shared and exercised within that team, protostomps happen.

Problem is, plenty are still approaching this like BF4 or COD. In both of those MP games, teamwork isn't a real big factor in TDM like it is in Dust 514. You can go ape **** and rescue your team from a slaughter. In Dust, the game laughs at you because you're the only guy at the top with 20 plus kills but the rest of your team suffered and you lost.

So you want to end protostomp? Promote teamwork. Until mercenaries understand that working together is better instead of not working together because you just work against each other, bottom line, then these protostomps will continue to flourish.

If you wanna go proto, go proto. I will see you in my milita fit in ambush. And I welcome the challenge.

That's simply not true. I promise that a team of starter fits can't beat 16 individual protosuits. When I'm in my Proto (or even Standard gear now because my core skills are maxed out) starter fits just basically tickle me and let me know where they are for me to kill them.

I have 3-4x the HP, and 3-4x the DPS...

I honestly connot remember the last time I was beat by a starter fit suit in a 1v1, except for lag spikes maybe. A starter can shoot me in the back of the head, and I have plenty of HP to turn around and kill him before he realized what happened. When using proto against starter fits, it's like shooting fish in a bucket.

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8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 965	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:41:00 - [1] - Quote As some of you may, or may not know, I have a very strong stance against protostomping, because it is ruining the game. Many would argue the game is ruined already; but are we adding to it? Protostomping is simply pathetic, wrong, and sad. But, I realized that you're not going to change the mind's of the short sighted people. You can try to talk with Radar and Kujo and they simply don't care about what's going on. They want the game to die. Lately, I've started using Proto more often as well. Because I'm simply sick and tired of going into match, after match, and being "outplayed" by gear instead of with actual skill. I'm tired of shooting a Gk.0 down to 30 armor with my starter fit only to die to his Duvolle. I outplayed him, but his gear crutched him to a victory. So, now I'm pulling out the proto and fighting back, and guess what... Mr. Gk.0 and everyone like him gets DESTROYED by me. These players aren't so good when the person they are fighting against can actually match their HP and DPS. Then they just resort to chucking Core grenades because they realize they SUCK. I'm tired of having to try against these no talent scrubs, I'm going to be lazy just like you: except my B game beats your A game every time. Sure, I always took pride in killing the blacksuits with my cheap sht, but I don't want to kill them, I want to humiliate them. I want to kill them 10-20x in a match. I want them to back out of the match. I want them to run away like the btches they are. I want them to ask their CEO for ISK to pay for restocking after what I did to them. So, all you wannabe protostompers out there. The ones who actually thought they had skill, you're time is up. I'm dropping consistent 30-40 kill games on you match after match after match after match after match... until I see your name in the upper-right corner saying you left battle to protect your ego... and come FW FF... you will not catch a breather by lucking out and being on my team.
Long Evity 653	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:43:00 - [2] - Quote This thread really happened, didn't it? O, crap, it's getting serious now! PROTO STOMPERS BEWARE! I only use ADV btw. Though I admit to being an Imperial ScR user now. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 187	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:44:00 - [3] - Quote Amen The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2351	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:44:00 - [4] - Quote to quote the old saying; they are not here to ruin the game, they are here to ruin YOUR game. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 965	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:46:00 - [5] - Quote Long Evity wrote: This thread really happened, didn't it? O, crap, it's getting serious now! PROTO STOMPERS BEWARE! I only use ADV btw. Though I admit to being an Imperial ScR user now. If I could make sweet love to My Imperial... I would --yeah I said it-- Why not use a fit that does 100+ damage per shot? Why should these scrubs even deserve a chance? Now they know how it feels to die instantly like they are the ones in Starter Fits... You should see the hatemail I'm getting. Blacksuit Duvolle users telling me I'm the scrub for using an Imperial? Hypocrites much?
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 965	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:47:00 - [6] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: to quote the old saying; they are not here to ruin the game, they are here to ruin YOUR game. No, I've had Kujo tell me he's trying to ruin the game and doesn't care. He wants the noobs to leave.
JL3Eleven 1405	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:52:00 - [7] - Quote 8213 wrote: But, I realized that you're not going to change the mind's of the short sighted people. You can try to talk with Radar and Kujo and they simply don't care about what's going on. They want the game to die. LOL. Doubt you have ever spoken to either one of them in your two man corp. P.S Thoughts you quit? Skirmish 1.0 is a must for competitive play // Bring back Corp Battles Make me want to be an Ass. over a Logi.
JL3Eleven 1405	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:53:00 - [8] - Quote 8213 wrote: jenza aranda wrote: to quote the old saying; they are not here to ruin the game, they are here to ruin YOUR game. No, I've had Kujo tell me he's trying to ruin the game and doesn't care. He wants the noobs to leave. BULL ***** **. I PERSONALLY TOLD HIM TO MAKE NEW EDEN CRY. YET HE WANTED IT MAKE IT GROW!!! Skirmish 1.0 is a must for competitive play // Bring back Corp Battles Make me want to be an Ass. over a Logi.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 966	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:56:00 - [9] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: 8213 wrote: jenza aranda wrote: to quote the old saying; they are not here to ruin the game, they are here to ruin YOUR game. No, I've had Kujo tell me he's trying to ruin the game and doesn't care. He wants the noobs to leave. BULL ***** **. I PERSONALLY TOLD HIM TO MAKE NEW EDEN CRY. YET HE WANTED IT MAKE IT GROW!!! Want me to show the messages and talks I've had with him?
JL3Eleven 1405	Posted - 2013.12.09 09:57:00 - [10] - Quote 8213 wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: 8213 wrote: jenza aranda wrote: to quote the old saying; they are not here to ruin the game, they are here to ruin YOUR game. No, I've had Kujo tell me he's trying to ruin the game and doesn't care. He wants the noobs to leave. BULL ***** **. I PERSONALLY TOLD HIM TO MAKE NEW EDEN CRY. YET HE WANTED IT MAKE IT GROW!!! Want me to show the messages and talks I've had with him? please. Skirmish 1.0 is a must for competitive play // Bring back Corp Battles Make me want to be an Ass. over a Logi.

KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 476	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:02:00 - [11] - Quote WGAF? "Because beer, that's why."
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 966	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:06:00 - [12] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: 8213 wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: 8213 wrote: jenza aranda wrote: to quote the old saying; they are not here to ruin the game, they are here to ruin YOUR game. No, I've had Kujo tell me he's trying to ruin the game and doesn't care. He wants the noobs to leave. BULL ***** **. I PERSONALLY TOLD HIM TO MAKE NEW EDEN CRY. YET HE WANTED IT MAKE IT GROW!!! Want me to show the messages and talks I've had with him? please. I'm not going to show you all the conversations, because I need to keep my other alts more secret so I can get information. But here's a good one: http://t.co/gAIUfdVMab
steadyhand amarr Scions of Athra 2042	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:11:00 - [13] - Quote Aaahhh another player finally understands dust. When a newb first gets his black suit it must feel awsome i know it was when i got mine for the 4th time......dam sp whipes /shakes fist "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 627	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:14:00 - [14] - Quote If you want us to acknowledge you being skilled while you're a ScR user now, you're going to have to post pics of at least 3 60+ kill games and at least 1 70+ kill game. Same as if you were using a flaylock pre-nerf. Seen too many 50+ games from flaylocks and starting to see very similar ScR performances now as well.
steadyhand amarr Scions of Athra 2042	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:25:00 - [15] - Quote Pulled a 50+ yesterday :-) i can feel the nerf coming :-( "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 969	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:31:00 - [16] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: If you want us to acknowledge you being skilled while you're a ScR user now, you're going to have to post pics of at least 3 60+ kill games and at least 1 70+ kill game. Same as if you were using a flaylock pre-nerf. Seen too many 50+ games from flaylocks and starting to see very similar ScR performances now as well. I don't want acknowledgement. I could care less. I do very well with my SCR. I can get 40 kill games on a very, very normal basis with it. I have found that 50+ kills in DUST 514 has to factor in circumstances out of your control. Why is the SCR being a decent weapon a bad thing? Finally the AR has something to compete with it, and with the installment of the Combat and Rail Rifle for 1.7 there will be more worthwhile weapons to use in this game. Now each race will finally have a variant they can use. Hopefully the era of AR514 will come to an end. Everything that could beat the AR was nerfed into the ground, but now we have choices. The Duvolle is still better than the ASCR. But I think the SCR is better than the TacAR, only because the TacAR was unjustifiably nerfed. The gun was fine, it was just the cheaters that exploited it. Now this is where I mention that you are a Nyain San and dismiss anything you have to say --right, or wrong-- simply based 100% on your corp affiliation... sorry, but thems the rules.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 969	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:33:00 - [17] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Pulled a 50+ yesterday :-) i can feel the nerf coming :-( Don't be so sure. If the Combat and Rail Rifle weren't coming out tomorrow, then yes the SCR would get nerfed. But now, the SCR and AR have answer weapons and balance. Before it was all AR, now the SCR is starting to rise up and hopefully the RR and CR will do the same. The killfeed will have more variety in it and the gameplay and tactics will too.
ROEG X Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 27	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:36:00 - [18] - Quote I've been running advance gear with a prototype weapon for months now, soon as I earned my prototype suit I use my suit for good and justice. I learned that in every battle there will be prototype mercenaries so I might as well suit up as well and get in on the action. I've destroyed thousands of prototype mercenaries in lesser gear for months and now I seek out any and all who seek to destroy me. CCP you should pay me more isk and let me earn more SP by slaughtering prototype mercenaries in lesser gear. If I could earn more isk and gain more SP just by killing prototype mercenaries in lesser gear that would be such a motivating challenge. If your running proto gear in public or factional warfare, just look after the noobs on your team. protect them with your prototype gear and overall be the dominate factor in leading your team to victory. I love this post, it expresses what I feel everyday.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2052	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:39:00 - [19] - Quote The protostomp conversation is soooooooooooooooooooo old. If teammates don't work together, protostomps happen. If intelligence is not shared and exercised within that team, protostomps happen. Problem is, plenty are still approaching this like BF4 or COD. In both of those MP games, teamwork isn't a real big factor in TDM like it is in Dust 514. You can go ape **** and rescue your team from a slaughter. In Dust, the game laughs at you because you're the only guy at the top with 20 plus kills but the rest of your team suffered and you lost. So you want to end protostomp? Promote teamwork. Until mercenaries understand that working together is better instead of not working together because you just work against each other, bottom line, then these protostomps will continue to flourish. If you wanna go proto, go proto. I will see you in my milita fit in ambush. And I welcome the challenge.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 970	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:44:00 - [20] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: The protostomp conversation is soooooooooooooooooooo old. If teammates don't work together, protostomps happen. If intelligence is not shared and exercised within that team, protostomps happen. Problem is, plenty are still approaching this like BF4 or COD. In both of those MP games, teamwork isn't a real big factor in TDM like it is in Dust 514. You can go ape **** and rescue your team from a slaughter. In Dust, the game laughs at you because you're the only guy at the top with 20 plus kills but the rest of your team suffered and you lost. So you want to end protostomp? Promote teamwork. Until mercenaries understand that working together is better instead of not working together because you just work against each other, bottom line, then these protostomps will continue to flourish. If you wanna go proto, go proto. I will see you in my milita fit in ambush. And I welcome the challenge. That's simply not true. I promise that a team of starter fits can't beat 16 individual protosuits. When I'm in my Proto (or even Standard gear now because my core skills are maxed out) starter fits just basically tickle me and let me know where they are for me to kill them. I have 3-4x the HP, and 3-4x the DPS... I honestly connot remember the last time I was beat by a starter fit suit in a 1v1, except for lag spikes maybe. A starter can shoot me in the back of the head, and I have plenty of HP to turn around and kill him before he realized what happened. When using proto against starter fits, it's like shooting fish in a bucket.

Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 572	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:51:00 - [21] - Quote the beautiful view. your tears. flow endlessly. like the niagra falls. everyday. gives me strength. to destroy noobs. PROGäó LOGIC! NO! IT BURRRRNNNSSS!!!!!!
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2053	Posted - 2013.12.09 10:55:00 - [22] - Quote 8213 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: The protostomp conversation is soooooooooooooooooooo old. If teammates don't work together, protostomps happen. If intelligence is not shared and exercised within that team, protostomps happen. Problem is, plenty are still approaching this like BF4 or COD. In both of those MP games, teamwork isn't a real big factor in TDM like it is in Dust 514. You can go ape **** and rescue your team from a slaughter. In Dust, the game laughs at you because you're the only guy at the top with 20 plus kills but the rest of your team suffered and you lost. So you want to end protostomp? Promote teamwork. Until mercenaries understand that working together is better instead of not working together because you just work against each other, bottom line, then these protostomps will continue to flourish. If you wanna go proto, go proto. I will see you in my milita fit in ambush. And I welcome the challenge. That's simply not true. I promise that a team of starter fits can't beat 16 individual protosuits. When I'm in my Proto (or even Standard gear now because my core skills are maxed out) starter fits just basically tickle me and let me know where they are for me to kill them. I have 3-4x the HP, and 3-4x the DPS... I honestly connot remember the last time I was beat by a starter fit suit in a 1v1, except for lag spikes maybe. A starter can shoot me in the back of the head, and I have plenty of HP to turn around and kill him before he realized what happened. When using proto against starter fits, it's like shooting fish in a bucket. I'm talking real New Eden scenarios. Never have I been a match where there are 16 protos running around. I'm not talking PC here. I'm talking pub. The average is maybe a little more than half. And yes its possible. I'm a firm believer that wisdom overrides strength. A proto player will see that team of starters and automatically think he has won. But if that team of starters actually used that to their advantage while concentrating fire, softening up the suits, and using proper maneuvers, knowing when to push and when to relent; that proto will fall. I've seen the biggest guys lose in fights to smaller, weaker looking opponents. If that can happen there, that can happen in New Eden.
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 154	Posted - 2013.12.09 11:05:00 - [23] - Quote LOL I have 3o mil sp and i run with dread or toxin with militia mods .....why ?.... It feels more comfy Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1


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