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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2013.12.09 02:50:00 -
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What if they had the same stacking penalty that many modules had, but also gave out more HP? This would allow shield users to use damage mods and still have a somewhat strong tank at the same time, but would make stacking 4-5 extenders less viable than it is right now.
Something like this:
Current Progression 33/44/66
1 Extender - 66 HP Total/73 with skills
2 Extenders- 132HP Total/145 with skills
3 Extenders- 198HP Total/218 with skills
4 Extenders- 264HP Total/290 with skills
5 Extenders- 330HP Total/363 with skills
My Suggestion 45/66/90
1 Extender -90HP Total/99 with skills
2 Extenders-168HP Total/185 with skills
3 Extenders-220HP Total/242 with skills
4 Extenders-245HP Total/270 with skills
5 Extenders-254HP Total/280 with skills
Thoughts?
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.12.09 02:52:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:What if they had the same stacking penalty that many modules had, but also gave out more HP? This would allow shield users to use damage mods and still have a somewhat strong tank at the same time, but would make stacking 4-5 extenders less viable than it is right now.
Something like this:
Current Progression 33/44/66
1 Extender - 66 HP Total/73 with skills
2 Extenders- 132HP Total/145 with skills
3 Extenders- 198HP Total/218 with skills
4 Extenders- 264HP Total/290 with skills
5 Extenders- 330HP Total/363 with skills
My Suggestion 45/66/90
1 Extender -90HP Total/99 with skills
2 Extenders-168HP Total/185 with skills
3 Extenders-220HP Total/242 with skills
4 Extenders-245HP Total/270 with skills
5 Extenders-254HP Total/280 with skills
Thoughts?
I think it would help armor tankers even more.
I mean IT IS a pretty solid idea Fizzler.But consider Gal Logis Getting more shield than they already have NOW, without any other penalty.... : /
On the plus side , Shield tankers would become powerful Dual tankers....
At the same time, you completley kill shield tanking.
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2013.12.09 02:54:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:What if they had the same stacking penalty that many modules had, but also gave out more HP? This would allow shield users to use damage mods and still have a somewhat strong tank at the same time, but would make stacking 4-5 extenders less viable than it is right now.
Something like this:
Current Progression 33/44/66
1 Extender - 66 HP Total/73 with skills
2 Extenders- 132HP Total/145 with skills
3 Extenders- 198HP Total/218 with skills
4 Extenders- 264HP Total/290 with skills
5 Extenders- 330HP Total/363 with skills
My Suggestion 45/66/90
1 Extender -90HP Total/99 with skills
2 Extenders-168HP Total/185 with skills
3 Extenders-220HP Total/242 with skills
4 Extenders-245HP Total/270 with skills
5 Extenders-254HP Total/280 with skills
Thoughts? I think it would help armor tankers even more.
I mean IT IS a pretty solid idea Fizzler.But consider Gal Logis Getting more shield than they already have NOW, without any other penalty.... : /
Hmm. I hadn't considered this.
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The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.12.09 02:57:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:
Hmm. I hadn't considered this.
EDITED first response.
The problem is taht with your system , the less shield extenders you equip , the more benefit you get from them,. Cool for Dual and Armor tanking, not very effective for Shield tanking.
IN OTHER NOTES:
Using the opposite system than yours might actually help the problem A LOT.
What are you talking about king?
THE MORE SHIELD EXTENDERS YOU PUT ON, the MORE HP you get.
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2013.12.09 03:06:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:
Hmm. I hadn't considered this.
EDITED first response.The problem is taht with your system , the less shield extenders you equip , the more benefit you get from them,. Cool for Dual and Armor tanking, not very effective for Shield tanking. IN OTHER NOTES: Using the opposite system than yours might actually help the problem A LOT. What are you talking about king? THE MORE SHIELD EXTENDERS YOU PUT ON, the MORE HP you get.
I like that! They don't give out much HP at first...
Maybe this...
22/33/55 HP Values
Stacking Bonuses
1st- 100%/55HP
2nd-128%/125HP
3rd- 157%/211HP
4th- 186%/314 HP
5th- 220%/435 HP
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The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.12.09 03:09:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:
Hmm. I hadn't considered this.
EDITED first response.The problem is taht with your system , the less shield extenders you equip , the more benefit you get from them,. Cool for Dual and Armor tanking, not very effective for Shield tanking. IN OTHER NOTES: Using the opposite system than yours might actually help the problem A LOT. What are you talking about king? THE MORE SHIELD EXTENDERS YOU PUT ON, the MORE HP you get. I like that! They don't give out much HP at first... Maybe this... 22/33/55 HP Values Stacking Bonuses 1st- 100%/55HP 2nd-128%/125HP 3rd- 157%/211HP 4th- 186%/314 HP 5th- 220%/435 HP
Now thats some powerful Shield tanking, so much it makes you even consider if its worth using Dam mods....
And will it be betetr to have a mere 150+ HP on low slots? or have 2-3 seconds less of shield recharge. Fizzler. that changes everything.....
+1. please Re edit your post. Im sure you'll get more attention this way. Killing Dual tanking and giving Shield tanking a chance....IMO that is...
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2013.12.09 03:27:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:
Hmm. I hadn't considered this.
EDITED first response.The problem is taht with your system , the less shield extenders you equip , the more benefit you get from them,. Cool for Dual and Armor tanking, not very effective for Shield tanking. IN OTHER NOTES: Using the opposite system than yours might actually help the problem A LOT. What are you talking about king? THE MORE SHIELD EXTENDERS YOU PUT ON, the MORE HP you get. I like that! They don't give out much HP at first... Maybe this... 22/33/55 HP Values Stacking Bonuses 1st- 100%/55HP 2nd-128%/125HP 3rd- 157%/211HP 4th- 186%/314 HP 5th- 220%/435 HP Now thats some powerful Shield tanking, so much it makes you even consider if its worth using Dam mods.... And will it be betetr to have a mere 150+ HP on low slots? or have 2-3 seconds less of shield recharge. Fizzler. that changes everything..... +1. please Re edit your post. Im sure you'll get more attention this way. Killing Dual tanking and giving Shield tanking a chance....IMO that is...
I edited my post. I changed the raw HP values a bit though.
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The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2013.12.09 03:29:00 -
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no no. don't mind me. i'm just reading this interesting discussion you 2 are having. 
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.09 04:18:00 -
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The stacking penalty would need to MASSIVELY increase and work on normal delay too, otherwise you're just shifting the balance in shields favor 
But it is a good start for breaking dual tanking :D
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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