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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:00:00 -
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Message from Godin: Stop being such self-entitled pricks and be lucky they aren't resetting you for being dicks to them all the time........ |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:02:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:low genius wrote:the devs have answered several times.
ccp doesn't do respecs. zipper does. Funnily enough this isn't even about being for or against respecs, it's about giving everyone the same options and treatment. Remember when they made these skill tree changes and gave everyone a (optional) full respec? I don't see any difference in this situation.
Message from Godin: So a complete redo of the skill tree, not just a reduced skill level change, plus a complete overhaul of said vehicles, and you don't see the difference? Riiight  |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:15:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Message from Godin: So a complete redo of the skill tree, not just a reduced skill level change, plus a complete overhaul of said vehicles, and you don't see the difference? Riiight So you missed my post about infantry should get the chance to skill into the heavily changed vehicles just as pilots get the chance to skill out of the heavily changed vehicles?
Well, most infantry didn't have to suffer for 6 months straight, and most infantry wouldn't want to be pilots in the first place. And if they did, they would've skilled into it. Plus, It's not like we have a choice; many of the skills inside of the vehicle skill trees are either getting removed, or getting completely changed, so We needed to get a respec, or lose SP due to said skills being removed, or skills completely changing due to said changes.
Like I said, stop being self-entitled pricks, and stop asking. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:25:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Well, most infantry didn't have to suffer for 6 months straight, and most infantry wouldn't want to be pilots in the first place. And if they did, they would've skilled into it. Plus, It's not like we have a choice; many of the skills inside of the vehicle skill trees are either getting removed, or getting completely changed, so We needed to get a respec, or lose SP due to said skills being removed, or skills completely changing due to said changes.
Like I said, stop being self-entitled pricks, and stop asking. Pilots chose to be pilots, so why can they now skill into infantry when infantry can't skill into vehicles? Edit: Pilots suffered for 6 months? Me looks at Scouts and Heavies?
CCP saying sorry for ******* us over for 6 months, and because they can't lock SP into a specific tree? Also, yes, Light and Heavies have it bad, but they can still profit, and quite easily too, even if they die. YOU CAN"T IN A VEHICLE. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:38:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:They do care what we think. But in case you didn't notice: Not everybody is in favor of a respec. There are at least as many people who are against it as there are people who want one. Then there are the ones who just don't care. And then there is the point that the last skill respec was because the game got officially released. And the point that you get SP all the time and instead of QQing you can just wait a few weeks. Read my earlier post where I said: "Funnily enough this isn't even about being for or against respecs, it's about giving everyone the same options and treatment." Pilots can't skill out of vehicles, but infantry can't skill into vehicles. That's unfair treatment and has nothing to do with the usual for or against respecs arguments.
Message from Godin: Look, it's already been decided. You're not getting one, nor is any other infantry player. It doesn't matter what you say, they're not giving you one. And seeing this, if you skilled mostly into medium frames (seeing how you're acting, I'm assuming so), then you're not getting one when they bring in the racial Light Frames and Heavy Frames. The only time you'll probably get one is when tiercide happens in the year 2020. Just stop asking........ |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:42:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Pilots can skill out of vehicles because the whole vehicle tree was changed. They didn't have another choice because some of the old skills don't even exist anymore. That wouldn't translate to 1.7 without a respec.
And well: Everybody still has the same options. You can, even as an infantrist, just wait a few weeks and spend your next SP into vehicles. Nothing is stopping you from doing this. Why do you think you should instantly be able to spec the whole vehicle tree to level 5 even though you only played as an infantrist so far? Because pilots can go all infantry? How should infantry have known what vehicles would be like in 1.7 months ago when they skilled into infantry?
Message from Godin: What does it matter what they'll be like a couple months, a day, or years later? If you like being something, you should do it, not because it's the best thing to do. That's just being a FOTMer, and CCP is trying to prevent that practice by doing this. And that's their choice for going infantry. Think of it as a reward for being tortured for months on end. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:54:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Message from Godin: Look, it's already been decided. You're not getting one, nor is any other infantry player. It doesn't matter what you say, they're not giving you one. And seeing this, if you skilled mostly into medium frames (seeing how you're acting, I'm assuming so), then you're not getting one when they bring in the racial Light Frames and Heavy Frames. The only time you'll probably get one is when tiercide happens in the year 2020. Just stop asking........ I don't know why people always feel the need to make assumptions, especially not when I'm just trying to get equal options and treatment for everyone. If you really want to know though, I can say that I'm getting about 2.5 million SP refunded from vehicles that I chose to skill into months ago. I don't think it's fair I get to pump that into infantry when they can't go the other way. I'm also more than satisfied with my infantry SP, which is mostly in medium suits yes, but I also recently skilled a bit into Scouts (which I don't regret). I also didn't skill into any FOTM, I have 0 SP in Caldari Logi for example.
I'm a pilot as a main, and still has more SP in infantry than you have in vehicles. 2.5 mil is nothing; that's chump change. I'm getting back a good 17 mil SP. Plus, there's way more FOTM's than the Callogi. Skilling a bit into something and saying that you don't follow the FOTM is just like saying I killed someone but gave a kid some candy so it's okay. Just stop.
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.08 23:34:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Yeah, so maybe they plan to redo infantry and then offer them the same deal in 1.8 or 1.9? In that case, there'd be no issue. There is no plan to redo infantry, not for the foreseeable future at least, plus it took them what, 4 months to redo vehicles? I'm sure it would take more than that to redo infantry completely then. Also then we'd just be back at the same issue as infantry then would get unfair advantages over pilots...
Message from Godin: They're still not done tierciding the ships and modules in EVE. BUt in Dust, half of it is already done (vehicles). All we have to do is tiercide infantry.
EDIT: Wait, you're still droning on about this ****? LOL |
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