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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:17:00 -
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5 HPS Repair (at the Complex level, mind you) is almost useless.
50 HPS would make them viable and instantly counter the current TTK issues.
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
270
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Posted - 2013.12.08 07:16:00 -
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Are you even considering what this would do to new players? What this would do to the game itself? It's already nearly impossible for a starter fit user with no SP to take down a proto suit.
This must be a troll post really, do the math, I could put on 5 complex repairers and nothing short of a forge gun or plasma cannon or grenade could kill me, it would render every light weapon and sidearm short of a thale completely useless, it would shift the ttk from very low to impossibly high.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
Renegade Alliance
4042
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Posted - 2013.12.08 07:20:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:5 HPS Repair (at the Complex level, mind you) is almost useless.
50 HPS would make them viable and instantly counter the current TTK issues.
Must be a troll thread.
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.08 08:24:00 -
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Support.
Sentinel ak.0 with 600 armor and a 200h/s repair rate would be fun for everybody, excluding everybody but me. |
MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
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Posted - 2013.12.08 08:32:00 -
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Amarr logi's... *shudders* |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.08 08:41:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Amarr logi's... *shudders*
****, Gallente Logis...
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1511
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Posted - 2013.12.08 09:36:00 -
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An Advanced Rifle does ~437.5 DPS, no damage mods.
That's not me doing the trolling...
Yeah, it might suck for noobs trying to kill Proto Heavies, but if he's the only one facing him it should be difficult.
But, on the other hand, it would give that noob a tool to keep his own *** alive and keep from rage quitting.
Whatever. The player count will bottom out soon enough and you guys can wax poetic about the days when you didn't play the same 34 dudes over and over.
GG
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2013.12.08 09:41:00 -
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Even in borderlands the repair rate is less than 50, add 2 or 3 to all the armor rep modules and they will be fine.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
186
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Posted - 2013.12.08 11:19:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:An Advanced Rifle does ~437.5 DPS, no damage mods.
That's not me doing the trolling...
Yeah, it might suck for noobs trying to kill Proto Heavies, but if he's the only one facing him it should be difficult.
But, on the other hand, it would give that noob a tool to keep his own *** alive and keep from rage quitting.
Whatever. The player count will bottom out soon enough and you guys can wax poetic about the days when you didn't play the same 34 dudes over and over.
GG
I defend the fact than repair module should be buffed but by ten......It's really too much.
You're just crazy.
Armor module is without delay and armor regen is ALWAYS supposed to be low.
Actual : 1/2/5.
What it should be : 2/4/8
50hp/s , are you stupid ? it's faster than the reppers of a logi. |
PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
115
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Posted - 2013.12.08 11:27:00 -
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Scout GK0
1 Complex plate 3x Complex reps = profit?
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1511
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Posted - 2013.12.08 11:28:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:I defend the fact than repair module should be buffed but by ten......It's really too much.
You're just crazy.
Armor module is without delay and armor regen is ALWAYS supposed to be low.
Actual : 1/2/5.
What it should be : 2/4/8
50hp/s , are you stupid ? it's faster than the reppers of a logi.
Actually, Core Focused Repair Tool does 175 HP per second, stupid.
And, awards ridiculous WP for doing so.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
186
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Posted - 2013.12.08 11:42:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:I defend the fact than repair module should be buffed but by ten......It's really too much.
You're just crazy.
Armor module is without delay and armor regen is ALWAYS supposed to be low.
Actual : 1/2/5.
What it should be : 2/4/8
50hp/s , are you stupid ? it's faster than the reppers of a logi. Actually, Core Focused Repair Tool does 175 HP per second, stupid. And, awards ridiculous WP for doing so.
I'm a ******* Amarr Logi playing with Proto Reppers AND actually Armor tanker but more "Armor Regen" than pure tank.
I certainely know these better than you.
Core focused have a lot of drawbacks.
And actually sucks if you need to help twice at the same time.
Need a lot of PG/CPU AND is expensive.
And Self regen is supposed to be less than 1/10 of when you're holded by a Logi.
Actually i'm running 20hp/s of armor Regen and that's actually damn fast.
I f i'm playing with your rules i got more than 150hp/s.
Actually that means IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL.
The theorical DPS is wrong.
Stop playing with statistis welcome to reality.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
186
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Posted - 2013.12.08 11:44:00 -
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AND a logi repair someone means he can't shoot.
Your idea is stupid ruins the game ruins the logi.
Everybody is impossible to kill exept with Forge/Grenade.
Try to just THINK like 20sec what the problem is with 150hp/s of repair. |
I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2013.12.08 12:02:00 -
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Maybe as a "superpower" that logistics can activate for 30 seconds that has a cooldown of 2 minutes. During this time their repair rate is multiplied by 5 or 10 and their damage is reduced by 50%. This would be useful for running into a crowd of enemies repping a heavy or something.
Other superpowers:
Heavy - Damage resist
Assault - Sprint boost
Scout - Cloaking
idk, but that's the only way that numbers like these would ever be valid in this game.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1859
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Posted - 2013.12.08 12:17:00 -
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10x more passive armour repair is far too much. Maybe a doubling would be okay but even that's quite high. There's certainly no way armour should be able to rep faster than the fastest shield regen.
Think about the stacking potential when you start talking about changing module stats and that it's possible to put on 5 armour reppers on some suits. If a complex repper did 10hp/s, with the skill bonus that's 12.5hp/s and then with 5 on a proto gal logi, that equates to 65hp/s and that's huge at only a doubling.
The 2/4/8 progression sounds much more reasonable than a 20/30/50 set up.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.12.08 12:48:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:AND a logi repair someone means he can't shoot.
Your idea is stupid ruins the game ruins the logi.
Everybody is impossible to kill exept with Forge/Grenade.
Try to just THINK like 20sec what the problem is with 150hp/s of repair.
150 HP/s is 1/3 of the median rifle's DPS.
Meaning, that with 3 Complex Reppers on, you can still go down in <2 seconds (assuming an average 600 HP Armor fitting. And with 3 Complex Reppers on, you're not going to fit any decent plates on any frames.)
I want battles.
This 3 hit kill **** is getting old.
Cheeseburgers.
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Heavenly Daughter
the Aurum Grinder and Company
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Posted - 2013.12.08 12:55:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:5 HPS Repair (at the Complex level, mind you) is almost useless.
50 HPS would make them viable and instantly counter the current TTK issues.
50, no way, far to high....
Considering that the reactive can give you 8 ,9 or more depending on what you wear. I agree, a dedicated armour rep should be way better than the reactive plates.
The top end armour rep should be more like 10 to 15, not much more or it will make the repair tool partially obsolete, don't want that.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2013.12.08 13:40:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Maybe as a "superpower" that logistics can activate for 30 seconds that has a cooldown of 2 minutes. During this time their repair rate is multiplied by 5 or 10 and their damage is reduced by 50%. This would be useful for running into a crowd of enemies repping a heavy or something.
Other superpowers:
Heavy - Damage resist
Assault - Sprint boost
Scout - Cloaking
idk, but that's the only way that numbers like these would ever be valid in this game.
Active module would be kinda nice 
Logistics : All equipements is ressuplied (STD : 25% / ADV : 50% / PRO : 100%) / Repair Rate x2 on heavy suits. (20s)
=> 3Min of cooldown.
Heavy : 50% of Damage Resistance (STD: 10s ADV : 20 PRO : 30) => 3Min of cooldown.
Some version has a reduced cooldown but less time or at the contruary more time but longer cooldown.
Assault : 20% of damage increase (STD:5s ADV : 10s PRO : 15s)
3min of cooldown
Scout : Cloaking : Cloaking when not running. Disabled when attacking or receive damage.
STD : 30s ADV 45s PRO : 1min
Cooldown 5min. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
245
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Posted - 2013.12.08 13:49:00 -
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Sure as long g as shields get 500% hp and each caldari suit gains 13 extra high slots
we also need a cal assault bonus that says improve effectiveness of dmg mods amd shield exters by 7747734578% per level
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
245
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Posted - 2013.12.08 13:53:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Maybe as a "superpower" that logistics can activate for 30 seconds that has a cooldown of 2 minutes. During this time their repair rate is multiplied by 5 or 10 and their damage is reduced by 50%. This would be useful for running into a crowd of enemies repping a heavy or something.
Other superpowers:
Heavy - Damage resist
Assault - Sprint boost
Scout - Cloaking
idk, but that's the only way that numbers like these would ever be valid in this game.
Don't act like logis would ever ude that for support. Because we all know how much they support right now
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 13:56:00 -
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WTF?
Everyone who knows me knows that I am a huge armor supporter.
But this suggestion is AWFUL, it will make armor so overpowered, that I will literally be unkillable 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1513
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Posted - 2013.12.08 13:57:00 -
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It's your own survivability I'm to help here.
Wanna keep dying to every ******* that lands 3 wild Imperial Scrambler shots, be my guest.
Cheeseburgers.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 14:07:00 -
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If you did this shields would be useless - try to think in terms of balance when you come up with ideas. This is just unreasonable.
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Taurion Bruni
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.12.08 14:48:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:5 HPS Repair (at the Complex level, mind you) is almost useless.
50 HPS would make them viable and instantly counter the current TTK issues.
thats like having a adv rep tool on you permanently.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4527
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Posted - 2013.12.08 14:51:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:It's your own survivability I'm attempting to help here.
Wanna keep dying to every jerkoff that lands 3 wild Imperial Scrambler shots, be my guest.
That's a terrible way to fix it.
At best I would double the regen, as well as increase it on shields.
And increase base HP.
But 50hp/s on armor reps?
Holy meow!
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1861
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Posted - 2013.12.08 15:07:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Rynoceros wrote:It's your own survivability I'm attempting to help here.
Wanna keep dying to every jerkoff that lands 3 wild Imperial Scrambler shots, be my guest. That's a terrible way to fix it. At best I would double the regen, as well as increase it on shields. And increase base HP. But 50hp/s on armor reps? Holy meow!
Agreed - though I don't think shield regen needs buffing on anything but heavies and commandos.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 15:28:00 -
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If it was like that, I could get my Amarr Logi to reach 312.5 HP/s. That would allow me to outrep most weapons.
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
15
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Posted - 2013.12.08 16:10:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rynoceros wrote:It's your own survivability I'm attempting to help here.
Wanna keep dying to every jerkoff that lands 3 wild Imperial Scrambler shots, be my guest. That's a terrible way to fix it. At best I would double the regen, as well as increase it on shields. And increase base HP. But 50hp/s on armor reps? Holy meow! Agreed - though I don't think shield regen needs buffing on anything but heavies, caldari assaults and commandos.
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