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Anmol Singh wrote:

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Anmol Singh wrote:

What kills you more OP Av or crashes?

Just went against a team of noobs in my assault dropship and these guys were using militia swarms and massdriver. The think that bothered me most was the amount of force i was hit with. Once a massdriver nearly knocked me out of the sky. The second time to militia swarms i has full 3400 shields but they knocked me so hard causing to me go sideways losing control and plummeting into the ground...

CCP, please fix this. it doesn't happen all the time but sometime, its like I got hit by a tank going 100 mph ramming me but doing like 500 shield damage.

Good Pilots correct the dropship to account for the force and if your losing control and end up crashing then clearly you aren't doing this.

You can't expect any vehicle to get hit by missiles, rockets and explosives and not feel any kind of force from the attack ..

flipped me upside down... okay.. not even the best pilot can turn it back right up with only 10-20 m ground clearance...

hate to break it to you, but if you are fliped upside down, you had to be at an extreme bank to begin with, and I'm talking a 180 bank while nose diving, and rotated sideways by at least 90 degrees. if you cant correct in time, fly higher

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Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 399	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:10:00 - [1] - Quote What kills you more OP Av or crashes? Just went against a team of noobs in my assault dropship and these guys were using militia swarms and massdriver. The think that bothered me most was the amount of force i was hit with. Once a massdriver nearly knocked me out of the sky. The second time to militia swarms i has full 3400 shields but they knocked me so hard causing to me go sideways losing control and plummeting into the ground... CCP, please fix this. it doesn't happen all the time but sometime, its like I got hit by a tank going 100 mph ramming me but doing like 500 shield damage. *Sagaris lover!!!*
Taurion Bruni D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 202	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:16:00 - [2] - Quote I tend to get killed a lot by unlucky spawns of RDV. once the thing spawned on my nose. Stupid things like invisi swarms and delay on damage are the ones that get me. Pilot // Logistics
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 399	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:18:00 - [3] - Quote Taurion Bruni wrote: I tend to get killed a lot by unlucky spawns of RDV. once the thing spawned on my nose. Stupid things like invisi swarms and delay on damage are the ones that get me. RDV's are really gay, swarms are annoying that chase you across the map *Sagaris lover!!!*
Virtual Riot The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 99	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:19:00 - [4] - Quote Although drunk rdvs, crashing, and other vehicle related bugs are more memoribe I'd honestly have to say I get taken out by AV a a lot more, more specifically, blaster and rail turrets.
Karl Marx II Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 332	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:22:00 - [5] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: What kills you more OP Av or crashes? Just went against a team of noobs in my assault dropship and these guys were using militia swarms and massdriver. The think that bothered me most was the amount of force i was hit with. Once a massdriver nearly knocked me out of the sky. The second time to militia swarms i has full 3400 shields but they knocked me so hard causing to me go sideways losing control and plummeting into the ground... CCP, please fix this. it doesn't happen all the time but sometime, its like I got hit by a tank going 100 mph ramming me but doing like 500 shield damage. Good Pilots correct the dropship to account for the force and if your losing control and end up crashing then clearly you aren't doing this. You can't expect any vehicle to get hit by missiles, rockets and explosives and not feel any kind of force from the attack .. My Theme
Happy Violentime L0ST PR0FITS 152	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:23:00 - [6] - Quote Bad dropship pilots get killed by swarms REALLY bad ones get killed by militia swarms. Whenever I use my Proto Swarms on a DS they usually just fly away :(
ALT2 acc The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 14	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:23:00 - [7] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: Although drunk rdvs, crashing, and other vehicle related bugs are more memoribe I'd honestly have to say I get taken out by AV a a lot more, more specifically, rail turrets from 300+m
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 399	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:24:00 - [8] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Bad dropship pilots get killed by swarms REALLY bad ones get killed by militia swarms. Whenever I use my Proto Swarms on a DS they usually just fly away :( Im not a bad pilot, it was that these swarms knocked me out of the sky, literally flipped my ship upside down... *Sagaris lover!!!*
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1449	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:25:00 - [9] - Quote Invisible walls and the stupidly accurate enemy redline turrets that have infinite range Edit: I almost forgot the ****s that ram a militia dropship in my incubus "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 399	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:26:00 - [10] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: What kills you more OP Av or crashes? Just went against a team of noobs in my assault dropship and these guys were using militia swarms and massdriver. The think that bothered me most was the amount of force i was hit with. Once a massdriver nearly knocked me out of the sky. The second time to militia swarms i has full 3400 shields but they knocked me so hard causing to me go sideways losing control and plummeting into the ground... CCP, please fix this. it doesn't happen all the time but sometime, its like I got hit by a tank going 100 mph ramming me but doing like 500 shield damage. Good Pilots correct the dropship to account for the force and if your losing control and end up crashing then clearly you aren't doing this. You can't expect any vehicle to get hit by missiles, rockets and explosives and not feel any kind of force from the attack .. flipped me upside down... okay.. not even the best pilot can turn it back right up with only 10-20 m ground clearance... *Sagaris lover!!!*
Sgt Buttscratch 1111	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:33:00 - [11] - Quote I usually get FG'd down to 300 armor then the dumbass mechanics call it "close enough" and send my skycoffin into the death fall I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 144	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:40:00 - [12] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: What kills you more OP Av or crashes? Just went against a team of noobs in my assault dropship and these guys were using militia swarms and massdriver. The think that bothered me most was the amount of force i was hit with. Once a massdriver nearly knocked me out of the sky. The second time to militia swarms i has full 3400 shields but they knocked me so hard causing to me go sideways losing control and plummeting into the ground... CCP, please fix this. it doesn't happen all the time but sometime, its like I got hit by a tank going 100 mph ramming me but doing like 500 shield damage. Unless I'm really unlucky (proto av while hardeners are down, breach forge-guns or orbitals while i'm calling my dropship in) it's generally more to me either crashing due to crazy knockback physics or due to people trying to ram me out of the air. Or it's a blueberry deciding to slap his d!ck on the turret while my hardeners / reppers are down and the turrets 'dalek' ai activates and starts screaming "EXTERMINATE!!!!!" at me.
Taurion Bruni D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 202	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:42:00 - [13] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Karl Marx II wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: What kills you more OP Av or crashes? Just went against a team of noobs in my assault dropship and these guys were using militia swarms and massdriver. The think that bothered me most was the amount of force i was hit with. Once a massdriver nearly knocked me out of the sky. The second time to militia swarms i has full 3400 shields but they knocked me so hard causing to me go sideways losing control and plummeting into the ground... CCP, please fix this. it doesn't happen all the time but sometime, its like I got hit by a tank going 100 mph ramming me but doing like 500 shield damage. Good Pilots correct the dropship to account for the force and if your losing control and end up crashing then clearly you aren't doing this. You can't expect any vehicle to get hit by missiles, rockets and explosives and not feel any kind of force from the attack .. flipped me upside down... okay.. not even the best pilot can turn it back right up with only 10-20 m ground clearance... hate to break it to you, but if you are fliped upside down, you had to be at an extreme bank to begin with, and I'm talking a 180 bank while nose diving, and rotated sideways by at least 90 degrees. if you cant correct in time, fly higher Pilot // Logistics
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8468	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:44:00 - [14] - Quote I just wish enemy dropships showed up on my radar a tad sooner, getting rammed by militia ships is annoying, though karmic justice for my dastardly ways Win ISK / Vids / O7
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3335	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:44:00 - [15] - Quote Disney Land
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 400	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:45:00 - [16] - Quote Taurion Bruni wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: Karl Marx II wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: What kills you more OP Av or crashes? Just went against a team of noobs in my assault dropship and these guys were using militia swarms and massdriver. The think that bothered me most was the amount of force i was hit with. Once a massdriver nearly knocked me out of the sky. The second time to militia swarms i has full 3400 shields but they knocked me so hard causing to me go sideways losing control and plummeting into the ground... CCP, please fix this. it doesn't happen all the time but sometime, its like I got hit by a tank going 100 mph ramming me but doing like 500 shield damage. Good Pilots correct the dropship to account for the force and if your losing control and end up crashing then clearly you aren't doing this. You can't expect any vehicle to get hit by missiles, rockets and explosives and not feel any kind of force from the attack .. flipped me upside down... okay.. not even the best pilot can turn it back right up with only 10-20 m ground clearance... hate to break it to you, but if you are fliped upside down, you had to be at an extreme bank to begin with, and I'm talking a 180 bank while nose diving, and rotated sideways by at least 90 degrees. if you cant correct in time, fly higher Ok, stfu and go away, this shouldn't be happening in the first place... *Sagaris lover!!!*
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 55	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:04:00 - [17] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: What kills you more OP Av or crashes? Just went against a team of noobs in my assault dropship and these guys were using militia swarms and massdriver. The think that bothered me most was the amount of force i was hit with. Once a massdriver nearly knocked me out of the sky. The second time to militia swarms i has full 3400 shields but they knocked me so hard causing to me go sideways losing control and plummeting into the ground... CCP, please fix this. it doesn't happen all the time but sometime, its like I got hit by a tank going 100 mph ramming me but doing like 500 shield damage. Greetings, Anmol! And I'm not sure it's something that needs to be "Fixed" per say. Let me explain: I'm a gallente DS driver, and read up a lot from forums that said you have to bonus-up your vehicle with Skill and modules before it can put up with ANY kind of damage (even militia damage). In the beginning I'd try to get up in the air (with mediocre militia mods and NO skill bonuses)--a single railgun or swarm volley would rock me out of the air, and my crash was a combo of impact of the blow and shield/armour shredding. I died from impact way more than loss of Hitpoints. NOW, my skill bonuses are way up, and I've earned the proto modules---today a single railgun or swarm volley peels down shields but DOES NOT pitch the boat anymore (it's like my dropship has been eating spinach so it can take the punch without reeling). Often I'm cruising slow right into an oncoming AV hit by mistake, but even with the hit and EHP loss, the DS just keeps cruising smooth like "the pain don't mean jack anymore!" I've seen proto or rail installation bullseye some OTHER players too; it slaps the shield into non existence and takes a 40% chunk out of its armour, but THE HOVER HOLDS, or just lists calmly a little,.. and I'd like to THINK that this is an intentional reward for building up those skill-bonuses. The tiny %'s of bonus to shield/armour mean LESS impact left to rock your ship,.. or something. The other theories posted here are excellent too: --Knowing what installations are on the map and where, before you intentionally fly over THAT spot... --knowing by impact WHAT hit you so you know what escape tactic NOT to try because it will only help him score the second hit on you... --and building enough confidence that the "first hits" don't mean you need to panic anymore and scramble away right into a tree (assuming you've built the right module and skill-bonus muscle on your vehicle, and you've learned how and when to LEAVE) (I'm sure now, that MOST of my early crashes weren't from the AV weapon tipping me over, but from me panicking myself right into the ground--allowing the AV guy to boast that "I smoked that dripship with one shot from my kick-arse bop-gun").
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 218	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:16:00 - [18] - Quote Anmol, it sounds like you need some assistance from an AV/tanker as well as some practice at correcting flight paths. Personally my recommendation - work with some pro AV from your guild, have them race out and destroy/hack the turrets and capture CRUs, between the two you will have less laser accurate turrets firing at you and hopefully blue infantry on the ground to assist in stifling enemy AV. I see a lot of embattled opinions about V. Vs. AV. But the real path to victory is working together, if you simultaneously deny enemy vehicles and anti vehicle installations, you can usually bring in whateve equipment you want to level out the battlefield. Sorry I am not a DS pilot, the best I can do is deny my opponents and help my allies get where they need to go.
Shouper of BHD Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 289	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:17:00 - [19] - Quote been out of internet for 2 months now and have been starring at the DUST514 Digi entrance anticipating playing again, but last time I checked once you got used to it only flaylocks would be an issue, the rest you can counter with your movements before you crash if they hit you from the right angle but most of the time it wasn`t a big issue (again except for the flaylock). going to be playing for 1 week starteing in 9 days but can I please get some luv from fellow pilots and whats going on in the skys?
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 219	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:26:00 - [20] - Quote Ill give you the tl;dr Swarms **** faces. Forge Guns take out most derpships in 1-3 hits As for tomorrow's update, only time will tell.
Zelorian Dexter snr 8thDivision 100	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:29:00 - [21] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: What kills you more OP Av or crashes? Just went against a team of noobs in my assault dropship and these guys were using militia swarms and massdriver. The think that bothered me most was the amount of force i was hit with. Once a massdriver nearly knocked me out of the sky. The second time to militia swarms i has full 3400 shields but they knocked me so hard causing to me go sideways losing control and plummeting into the ground... CCP, please fix this. it doesn't happen all the time but sometime, its like I got hit by a tank going 100 mph ramming me but doing like 500 shield damage. ok you are a drop ship. You get hit by a volley of missiles each packing a sizable explosive war head. Your going to be knocked hard simple physics.
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 3837	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:34:00 - [22] - Quote I tell people all the time that 9 out of 10 of my dropship destructions are due to something stupid and not actual AV. Something stupid entails Getting hit by an RDV Getting hit by a null cannon missile Getting hit by an MCC missile Getting hit by a kamikaze dropship pilot Taking off too fast and hitting my own RDV Taking off too fast and hitting my own MCC Absurd knockback from small firearms pushing me into objects Landing to pick someone up and a friendly LAV crashes into me Landing in an obscure location to get out and drop an orbital, yet some blueberry still manages to find me, steal my dropship, and crash it immediately upon take off Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Shouper of BHD Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 289	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:37:00 - [23] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I tell people all the time that 9 out of 10 of my dropship destructions are due to something stupid and not actual AV. Something stupid entails Getting hit by an RDV Getting hit by a null cannon missile Getting hit by an MCC missile Getting hit by a kamikaze dropship pilot Taking off too fast and hitting my own RDV Taking off too fast and hitting my own MCC Absurd knockback from small firearms pushing me into objects Landing to pick someone up and a friendly LAV crashes into me Landing in an obscure location to get out and drop an orbital, yet some blueberry still manages to find me, steal my dropship, and crash it immediately upon take off I knew about the null cannon (....was doing good securing the bridge till then.... also got -WP for the campers inside of me that didn`t want to hack but oh well) but I remember traveling through MCC missiles.
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 55	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:42:00 - [24] - Quote Slag Emberforge wrote: Anmol, it sounds like you need some assistance from an AV/tanker as well as some practice at correcting flight paths. Personally my recommendation - work with some pro AV from your guild, have them race out and destroy/hack the turrets and capture CRUs, between the two you will have less laser accurate turrets firing at you and hopefully blue infantry on the ground to assist in stifling enemy AV. I see a lot of embattled opinions about V. Vs. AV. But the real path to victory is working together, if you simultaneously deny enemy vehicles and anti vehicle installations, you can usually bring in whateve equipment you want to level out the battlefield. Sorry I am not a DS pilot, the best I can do is deny my opponents and help my allies get where they need to go. Slag, I AM a DS driver, and the least I can do is... FULLY AGREE with your view! ... I am dirt poor at foot-n-rifle work (not afraid to say it, LOL). This is because when I am NOT operating a DS, I'm denying the air from belonging to any red dots, and the ground from being trolled by red HAVs. I operate turret and gun-installations so much, you'd think CCP was paying me a salary to do so... If the mean HAV that's got you cornered at the null cannon suddenly gets four railgun hits on it and is forced to flee---he was scared off by me! Or players like me who realized there's some good fire-support-from-the-rear opportunities. For even those out there who can't survive long with a rifle and have chosen to try a sniper career because of its lower RoD.... try out a rear area rail or missile installation---in my opinion it BETTER contributes to safe team-movement across the map than sniper work can. And like I said in another thread, the DS is one vehicle that really get safer to fly if there is SQUAD/TEAM-COMMUNICATION of some kind trying to coordinate with it.
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 912	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:50:00 - [25] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: Good Pilots correct the dropship to account for the force and if your (sic) losing control and end up crashing then clearly you aren't doing this. You can't expect any vehicle to get hit by missiles, rockets and explosives and not feel any kind of force from the attack .. I disagree with you here, The knock back is often scaled based on the direction you were moving in and the direction the missiles hit you from. Sometime the knock is huge, sometimes not. It is not possible to predict it as the missiles often ignore the ships direction and hit behind you even if you turn at them to take the hit on the nose. Add to this invisible swarms and you have an unpredictable response. This can be clearly seen in my videos, so please do not accuse me of not knowing how to counter impacts. I have video proof to the contrary, as many will attest. As to this comment : Karl Marx II wrote: You can't expect any vehicle to get hit by missiles, rockets and explosives and not feel any kind of force from the attack .. But the swarm player gets exactly this. He does not lose lock or get knocked off target whin hit by a Missile that is clearly bigger than his body. Knock is fine, but i a dropship gets it the swarmer should get it to the same degree. Fair is Fair. We should both suffer aim loss, or neither of us. Everything Dropship youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 803	Posted - 2013.12.09 19:05:00 - [26] - Quote I crash when I go tearassing low around the battlefield. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
Shouper of BHD Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 289	Posted - 2013.12.09 19:10:00 - [27] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: I crash when I go tearassing low around the battlefield. that won`t last to long inless things chnaged from when I was on, soon you`l be flying under tabe tops, crushing hostiles with the ultimate Tbagger, DA DS BABY and scare DS campers with backflips (well so so, a few builds ago it was barly possible, it started to stop working when I left). gosh darn`t can`t wait to play again...

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