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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.07 12:46:00 -
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My main character is a Gal, and I have been thinking playing this character would go much more smoothly if I could wear my shields underneath my armor.
What are your thoughts on this idea?
I think it would also be cool if we had the option to switch between armor on the out side and shield on the outside, while we're playing in game. At the simple push of a buff.
Ya, ya, ya, I can already hear it "bla bla bla EVE bla bla bla".
Dust is not EVE. We do not have to do everything the way they do, nor do I think we should
Ok, discuss.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
530
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:19:00 -
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Seriously, nobody has any opinions on these ideas?
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Auris Lionesse
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
5
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:25:00 -
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I don't put wax paper under my aluminum cookie sheets when I make cookies.
Shields don't belong under armor. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
530
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:31:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote: I don't put wax paper under my aluminum cookie sheets when I make cookies.
Shields don't belong under armor.
Which is why I said this would be selectable. That way people like you can do what you want and people like me can, well...
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
959
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:32:00 -
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Theres no room for shield to fit under my skin tight body armor that accentuates my curves. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4491
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:34:00 -
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You know...
A Terran superweapon does something similar to what you just described.
It makes the shields go under the armor.
And you know what happens?
The ship goes boom, because shields' force can actually crush you.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
530
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:36:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Theres no room for shield to fit under my skin tight body armor that accentuates my curves.
Well, if you weren't so fat, mmhum. *bobs his head from side to side and snaps his fingers three times*
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1837
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:37:00 -
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Just curious: why would you want to do that?
Sheilds regenerate fast and give your armor the time to repair...
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
530
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:39:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You know...
A Terran superweapon does something similar to what you just described.
It makes the shields go under the armor.
And you know what happens?
The ship goes boom, because shields' force can actually crush you.
What... ?
When was the last time anybody was "crushed" by video game lore? That must be a terrible thing to have to explain at the purlly white gates.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
530
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:40:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Just curious: why would you want to do that?
Sheilds regenerate fast and give your armor the time to repair...
I have my reasons.
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DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
134
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:41:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:
Dust is not EVE. We do not have to do everything the way they do, nor do I think we should
Dust is EVE and EVE is Dust - same universe, same rules, same drawbacks ;) |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
530
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:42:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:
Dust is not EVE. We do not have to do everything the way they do, nor do I think we should
Dust is EVE and EVE is Dust - same universe, same rules, same drawbacks ;)
However dropsuits and interstellar star craft are very different thing.
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1839
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:42:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Just curious: why would you want to do that?
Sheilds regenerate fast and give your armor the time to repair... I have my reasons.
Repair Tool? 
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
530
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:44:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Just curious: why would you want to do that?
Sheilds regenerate fast and give your armor the time to repair... I have my reasons. Repair Tool?
Nope.
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843-BANE
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
166
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:46:00 -
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Not only is it completely unnecessary but also not possible or in-keeping with lore. Sorry bud, I like the premise but to summarise this idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzbUd6hQ90
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
590
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:48:00 -
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Shield is radioactive .... So.....
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
530
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:53:00 -
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Ahh, lore...
Fact did you know that at one point in time there were no mercs in lore.
Lore is something that is created. Let me demonstrate:
Oh, hay, look we eve scientist, just today, figured out how to put shield underneath dropsuits, but only dropsuit. Sorry EVE pilots.
And there you go, the lore has now been amended, all is right in the universe again.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
530
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:55:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Shield is radioactive .... So.....
That's why mercs wear radioactive undershirts and longjohns and face masks. Didn't you get the memo? Dude if you haven't been wearing yours you better go see a doctor quick.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
2481
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:00:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:My main character is a Gal, and I have been thinking playing this character would go much more smoothly if I could wear my shields underneath my armor.
I'm thinking that this would be something selectable/optional that any race/character could do.
What are your thoughts on this idea?
I think it would also be cool if we had the option to switch between armor on the out side and shield on the outside, while we're playing in game. At the simple push of a buff.
Ya, ya, ya, I can already hear it "bla bla bla EVE bla bla bla".
Dust is not EVE. We do not have to do everything the way they do, nor do I think we should
Ok, discuss.
Shields under armor is called armor. |
Aisha Ctarl
Scions of Athra
2024
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:04:00 -
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Shields are first line of defense followed by armor, been like that for millennia.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
533
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:05:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:My main character is a Gal, and I have been thinking playing this character would go much more smoothly if I could wear my shields underneath my armor.
I'm thinking that this would be something selectable/optional that any race/character could do.
What are your thoughts on this idea?
I think it would also be cool if we had the option to switch between armor on the out side and shield on the outside, while we're playing in game. At the simple push of a buff.
Ya, ya, ya, I can already hear it "bla bla bla EVE bla bla bla".
Dust is not EVE. We do not have to do everything the way they do, nor do I think we should
Ok, discuss. Shields under armor is called armor.
No it's not. Shields are called shields and armor is called armor. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck yesterday, you know.
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
590
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:05:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:Shield is radioactive .... So..... That's why mercs wear radioactive proof undershirts and longjohns and face masks. Didn't you get the memo? Dude if you haven't been wearing yours you better go see a doctor quick. {edit^^^
Ummmmmm no. Not on the Amarr Logi/Assault at least, considering that either one/both of them are directly linked with the skin of the clone.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
533
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:09:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:Shield is radioactive .... So..... That's why mercs wear radioactive proof undershirts and longjohns and face masks. Didn't you get the memo? Dude if you haven't been wearing yours you better go see a doctor quick. {edit^^^ Ummmmmm no. Not on the Amarr Logi/Assault at least, considering that either one/both of them are directly linked with the skin of the clone.
News flash:
Today Amarrian scientist figured out how to decouple dropsuits from clones. News at 11:00.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
2866
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Posted - 2013.12.07 15:55:00 -
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I love this dude, he's a total smartass.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 2
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
691
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Posted - 2013.12.07 16:14:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Ahh, lore... Fact: did you know that at one point in time there were no mercs in lore. Lore is something that is created. Let me demonstrate: Oh, hay, look, we eve scientist, just today, figured out how to put shield underneath dropsuits, but only dropsuit. Sorry EVE pilots. And there you go, the lore has now been amended, all is right in the universe again.
Mercenaries have always existed, clone soldiers have only been around for a few years. Thanks to discoveries made by the Amarr empire within wormhole space, the Sleeper implant was discovered which allowed the existence of clone soldiers, allowing the instant transfer of consciousness at the moment of death, unlike the capsule cloning technology.
The example you gave is not creating lore. That is making excuses and handwaving unrealistic settings in favor of your own ideas. And officially, all lore is created by CCP, at least the important parts about ship functions, modules and other that kind of stuff. If CCP says you can't put shields underneath the armor, then you can't put shields under the armor, and there's no way of going around that until CCP says otherwise.
And I agree with the other people here, it doesn't make sense and violates lore.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published 05/12/13
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
535
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Posted - 2013.12.07 16:20:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Ahh, lore... Fact: did you know that at one point in time there were no mercs in lore. Lore is something that is created. Let me demonstrate: Oh, hay, look, we eve scientist, just today, figured out how to put shield underneath dropsuits, but only dropsuit. Sorry EVE pilots. And there you go, the lore has now been amended, all is right in the universe again. Mercenaries have always existed, clone soldiers have only been around for a few years. Thanks to discoveries made by the Amarr empire within wormhole space, the Sleeper implant was discovered which allowed the existence of clone soldiers, allowing the instant transfer of consciousness at the moment of death, unlike the capsule cloning technology. The example you gave is not creating lore. That is making excuses and handwaving unrealistic settings in favor of your own ideas. And officially, all lore is created by CCP, at least the important parts about ship functions, modules and other that kind of stuff. If CCP says you can't put shields underneath the armor, then you can't put shields under the armor, and there's no way of going around that until CCP says otherwise. And I agree with the other people here, it doesn't make sense and violates lore.
Only a true nerd would sacrifice game fun for game lore. My hat's off to you sir.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
745
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Posted - 2013.12.07 16:20:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Doc Noah wrote:Theres no room for shield to fit under my skin tight body armor that accentuates my curves. Well, if you weren't so fat, mmhum. *bobs his head from side to side and snaps his fingers three times*
Don't forget the z formation
THE Z FORMATION!!!!!!!!
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
691
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Posted - 2013.12.07 16:31:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Only a true nerd would sacrifice game fun for game lore. My hat's off to you sir.
Lore, no lore, shields under armor is dumb regardless.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published 05/12/13
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
535
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Posted - 2013.12.07 16:32:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Doc Noah wrote:Theres no room for shield to fit under my skin tight body armor that accentuates my curves. Well, if you weren't so fat, mmhum. *bobs his head from side to side and snaps his fingers three times* Don't forget the z formation THE Z FORMATION!!!!!!!!
It's actually more of like a seven. You see, the fingers are snapped three times and the zee figure actually has a starting point two braking points and an end point. The seven, on the other hand, has a staring point, a single breaking poin... Oh god why am I explaining this... *facepalm of shame and self loathing*
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
535
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Posted - 2013.12.07 16:36:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Only a true nerd would sacrifice game fun for game lore. My hat's off to you sir. Lore, no lore, shields under armor is dumb regardless.
Now there is an opinion I can respect. And now my retort:
Are you insane? Shields under armor would be like THE most amazing thing ever.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
2483
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Posted - 2013.12.08 00:42:00 -
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Amazingly bad, yes. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
603
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Posted - 2013.12.08 00:45:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:
Dust is not EVE. We do not have to do everything the way they do, nor do I think we should
Dust is EVE and EVE is Dust - same universe, same rules, same drawbacks ;)
lol
My logi-code.
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
3732
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Posted - 2013.12.08 00:53:00 -
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I don't see why not, it sounds like an interesting idea (and forget those who say it doesn't make sense). My only question is why you'd do this an as armor tanker. In my opinion, it would be better for a shield tanker since he'd then have a little buffer for his main tanking type.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra.
Scions, a website is available
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1211
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Posted - 2013.12.08 00:55:00 -
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This si how superman's costume came to be.
hmm.. I know underwear on the OUTSIDE.
YEA 
#shittycoding
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
142
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Posted - 2013.12.08 00:59:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:Shield is radioactive .... So..... That's why mercs wear radioactive proof undershirts and longjohns and face masks. Didn't you get the memo? Dude if you haven't been wearing yours you better go see a doctor quick. {edit^^^
You make a choice when you choose to shield or armor tank, and that choice is whether you want to have quickly regenerating 'burst' tanking or if you want to have slowly regenerating 'endurace' tanking (with small bursts of quickly replenished shields). Choices have consequences. Fast regeneration but quick deaths when through your 'hp' or slow regeneration but massive hp totals.
This is how it is I've yet to see a single convincing argument for this, it's mostly just people whining 'I want it my way' or 'diversity for diversities sake!!!!!!' |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
392
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:12:00 -
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A biokinetic field underneath armor might actually be a viable option.
Charge the surface of a living organism with nanomachines, which can cause bioelectric pulses to fuel the creation of a field that supplements the stability of armor from the inside.
Yes that sounds possible for EVE.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4523
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Posted - 2013.12.08 12:23:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You know...
A Terran superweapon does something similar to what you just described.
It makes the shields go under the armor.
And you know what happens?
The ship goes boom, because shields' force can actually crush you. What... ? When was the last time anybody was "crushed" by video game lore? That must be a terrible thing to have to explain at the purlly white gates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKdTJjDnYzE
The weapon at the end.
That's what shields under the armor does.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet
Top Men.
261
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Posted - 2013.12.08 12:35:00 -
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All you nerds spouting off about lore are silly. Let's talk about the 'lore' of having spaceships that are actually submarines flying in space that behaves like water.
CCP could write some jank about a whatever device and suddenly, it works. That said, I'm curious about OP's reasons for wanting armor to take damage before shields. I'd want it because shield tankers have a "hull layer" as it were in their suit's armor HP and armor lovers do not. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
566
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Posted - 2013.12.08 12:41:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:All you nerds spouting off about lore are silly. Let's talk about the 'lore' of having spaceships that are actually submarines flying in space that behaves like water. CCP could write some jank about a whatever device and suddenly, it works. That said, I'm curious about OP's reasons for wanting armor to take damage before shields. I'd want it because shield tankers have a "hull layer" as it were in their suit's armor HP and armor lovers do not. e: just noticed the entry author's anger towards star trek in the tags. hah!
Bingo on the reason sir. Good job.
{edit >>> a quickly regenerating hull layer is what I desire.
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
591
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Posted - 2013.12.08 14:17:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:Shield is radioactive .... So..... That's why mercs wear radioactive proof undershirts and longjohns and face masks. Didn't you get the memo? Dude if you haven't been wearing yours you better go see a doctor quick. {edit^^^ Ummmmmm no. Not on the Amarr Logi/Assault at least, considering that either one/both of them are directly linked with the skin of the clone. News flash: Today Amarrian scientist figured out how to decouple dropsuits from clones. News at 11:00.
You realize that the reason it is directly grafted to the skin is so as to increase stamina and increase nervous system response time and ****, right?
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1482
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Posted - 2013.12.08 14:22:00 -
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When the Galente suit wasn't OP enough----
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
569
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Posted - 2013.12.08 14:33:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:Shield is radioactive .... So..... That's why mercs wear radioactive proof undershirts and longjohns and face masks. Didn't you get the memo? Dude if you haven't been wearing yours you better go see a doctor quick. {edit^^^ Ummmmmm no. Not on the Amarr Logi/Assault at least, considering that either one/both of them are directly linked with the skin of the clone. News flash: Today Amarrian scientist figured out how to decouple dropsuits from clones. News at 11:00. You realize that the reason it is directly grafted to the skin is so as to increase stamina and increase nervous system response time and ****, right?
You do realize that I couldn't give two ****s, right?
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
569
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Posted - 2013.12.08 14:35:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:When the Galente suit wasn't OP enough----
No sir the Gal suits are not OP. the proto Gal logi is a very decent suit. The rest of the suits are very mediocre.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
398
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Posted - 2013.12.09 04:58:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:Shield is radioactive .... So..... That's why mercs wear radioactive proof undershirts and longjohns and face masks. Didn't you get the memo? Dude if you haven't been wearing yours you better go see a doctor quick. {edit^^^ Ummmmmm no. Not on the Amarr Logi/Assault at least, considering that either one/both of them are directly linked with the skin of the clone. News flash: Today Amarrian scientist figured out how to decouple dropsuits from clones. News at 11:00. You realize that the reason it is directly grafted to the skin is so as to increase stamina and increase nervous system response time and ****, right?
Skin grafts increase muscle tension?... and neural reaction time?.... No those are augmented nervous system implants. Even now we have systems that can read neural connections and act upon them without having to be physically connected.
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