DUST Search - Heavy registry

Shotty GoBang wrote:

Hi Harry!

Just wanted to leave this here for you as Fair Warning. The Scout Registry had a great run, but in the end it probably did Scouts more harm than good. Six months of data collection, 200+ Scouts, 200+ pages of focused feedback, the biggest SOS the Forums has ever seen. And we Scouts are worse off now than we were in 1.0. So I shut it down.

For what it's worth, here's what I think happened:

Just like Heavies, Scouts got hit hard with Uprising 1.0. If we had never organized, the vast majority of us would've either quit Dust or moved on to other frames. CCP might have said to themselves "looks like we have a big problem with the Scout suit ... look at how their numbers are slumping ... let's prioritize fixing them ... maybe give 'em something unique to attract folks back."

Instead, we united and became a bunch of rabid killers, swapping best practices and build suggestions, all racing for the next Tier on the Killboard, all making the best of a disgustingly bad situation. So CCP says to themselves "looks like we've done a great job with Scouts ... high fives all around ... look at how active they are ... look at how they're playing together and having so much fun ... they even made an in-game channel ... and a nice little home on the forums ... all those pages ... what could they possibly be talking about in there? ... who knows, but they must be so happy ... OK! ... time to go check in with MedFrames on IRC ... maybe make some new Rifles."

Be advised. o7

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Harry Kahones Children of Ares 1	Posted - 2013.12.07 06:45:00 - [1] - Quote I was inspired by Shotty go bang scout registry/killboad that I thought us heavies should have a place we can talk about our issues and gripes. Tell stories of our exploits and declare that we are heavy dropsuit users. I don't know if I'll do as good a job as Shotty but I'll try. the list Harry Kahones I'm shy at first but I do creepy and uncomfortable things once I know you
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1493	Posted - 2013.12.07 06:46:00 - [2] - Quote First and worst. Cheeseburgers.
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 179	Posted - 2013.12.07 06:49:00 - [3] - Quote Add me. Oh wait, i saw registry and thought scout. Nevermind. Wrong side of the scale. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1169	Posted - 2013.12.07 06:50:00 - [4] - Quote Might as well add me, though keep in mind that I am the jack of all trades (for infantry). I do heavy a lot though. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 401	Posted - 2013.12.07 06:50:00 - [5] - Quote I suspect this will be very empty after the forge gun nerfing. I USED to play a heavy. Still have proto FG , HMG, and suits but i dont see me using them much after 1.7 Next thing you know CCP will "adjust" our movement speed because we are able to walk from 1 line to the other in 1 match and that will be deemed OP for a heavy.
Midas Fool Black Phoenix Mercenaries 238	Posted - 2013.12.07 06:58:00 - [6] - Quote I asked the gods for a long-range shotgun, and the Assault Forge Gun was delivered on to me. I'm gonna be playing heavy for a while. My only real gripe is with the lack of a Caldari Sentinel to use it with. For best results press R1 repeatedly. Consult your doctor if your erection persists for more than four hours.
Jane Madson DIRTY LAUNDRY 514 194	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:00:00 - [7] - Quote HMG heavy for this life and all others "Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender
Jane Madson DIRTY LAUNDRY 514 194	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:02:00 - [8] - Quote Midas Fool wrote: I asked the gods for a long-range shotgun, and the Assault Forge Gun was delivered on to me. I'm gonna be playing heavy for a while. My only real gripe is with the lack of a Caldari Sentinel to use it with. Hopefully we will get the rest of our racial suits soon, and maybe a gun or two "Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender
Midas Fool Black Phoenix Mercenaries 239	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:16:00 - [9] - Quote Jane Madson wrote: Hopefully we will get the rest of our racial suits soon, and maybe a gun or two I really want a big-ass sword. I realize that is a longshot and way back in chromosome I envisioned the Concussion Hammer. Needs to be updated with current damage types. Sigh...maybe someday. I wish CCP would at least give us a hint at Gallente/Amarr potential weapon candidates. For best results press R1 repeatedly. Consult your doctor if your erection persists for more than four hours.
Long Evity Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 618	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:17:00 - [10] - Quote SoTa PoP will always be a heavy. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.

Bazookah Tooth NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 376	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:32:00 - [11] - Quote I can't put my HMG down. Had a blast this weekend with it. Shot some people in proto I knew that didn't expect it. Going 26/5 and laughing most of the way. Nerf AR! That is all... -Bazookah Tooth HMG for Life
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 214	Posted - 2013.12.07 16:36:00 - [12] - Quote I'm a heavy but I primarily use hmg till a tank is out then it's forge gun We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4115	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:02:00 - [13] - Quote I cant wait for the first HMG is overpowered thread. Add me to the list
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2037	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:06:00 - [14] - Quote Add me to the list, despite the fact I run around in a Amarr Ak.0 Assault strapped with a duvolle. But I have the heavy suit and hmg fully specced. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Ace Starburst PiZzA DuDeS 53	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:12:00 - [15] - Quote Raises hand. Use a forge gun in most situations now, looking forward to Caldari sentinel and heavy laser.
Bazookah Tooth NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 381	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:15:00 - [16] - Quote Ace Starburst wrote: Raises hand. Use a forge gun in most situations now, looking forward to Caldari sentinel and heavy laser. I would use the hell out of that forge now since a damage nerf is headed that way in a few days So yea... side bar... anyone want to explain why ccp is nerfing the only other gun the heavy suit was made for? Is this a cruel joke to dismiss the heavys authority on the battlefield? -Bazookah Tooth HMG for Life
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 2680	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:20:00 - [17] - Quote Hi Harry! Just wanted to leave this here for you as Fair Warning. The Scout Registry had a great run, but in the end it probably did Scouts more harm than good. Six months of data collection, 250 pages of focused feedback, and we Scouts are worse off now than we were in 1.0. So I shut it down. For what it's worth, here's what I think happened: Just like Heavies, Scouts got hit hard with Uprising 1.0. If we had never organized, the vast majority of us would've either quit Dust or moved on to other frames. CCP might have said to themselves "looks like we have a big problem with the Scout suit ... look at how their numbers are slumping ... let's prioritize fixing them ... maybe give 'em something unique to attract folks back." Instead, we united and became a bunch of rabid killers, swapping best practices and build suggestions, all racing for the next Tier on the Killboard, all making the best of a disgustingly bad situation. So CCP says to themselves "looks like we've done a great job with Scouts ... high fives all around ... look at how active they are ... look at how they're playing together and having so much fun ... they even a nice little home on the forums where they talk about ... what do they even talk about? ... all those pages ... who knows ... let's go make some new Rifles." Be advised. o7
Bazookah Tooth NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 381	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:27:00 - [18] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Hi Harry! Just wanted to leave this here for you as Fair Warning. The Scout Registry had a great run, but in the end it probably did Scouts more harm than good. Six months of data collection , 250 pages of focused feedback, and we Scouts are worse off now than we were in 1.0. So I shut it down. For what it's worth, here's what I think happened: Just like Heavies, Scouts got hit hard with Uprising 1.0. If we had never organized, the vast majority of us would've either quit Dust or moved on to other frames. CCP might have said to themselves "looks like we have a big problem with the Scout suit ... look at how their numbers are slumping ... let's prioritize fixing them ... maybe give 'em something unique to attract folks back." Instead, we united and became a bunch of rabid killers, swapping best practices and build suggestions, all racing for the next Tier on the Killboard, all making the best of a disgustingly bad situation. So CCP says to themselves "looks like we've done a great job with Scouts ... high fives all around ... look at how active they are ... look at how they're playing together and having so much fun ... they even a nice little home on the forums where they talk about ... what do they even talk about? ... all those pages ... who knows ... let's go make some new Rifles." Be advised. o7 My apologies shotty your a great scout. All the scouts in that registry. -Bazookah Tooth HMG for Life
Harry Kahones Children of Ares 7	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:40:00 - [19] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Hi Harry! Just wanted to leave this here for you as Fair Warning. The Scout Registry had a great run, but in the end it probably did Scouts more harm than good. Six months of data collection, 200+ Scouts, 200+ pages of focused feedback, the biggest SOS the Forums has ever seen. And we Scouts are worse off now than we were in 1.0. So I shut it down. For what it's worth, here's what I think happened: Just like Heavies, Scouts got hit hard with Uprising 1.0. If we had never organized, the vast majority of us would've either quit Dust or moved on to other frames. CCP might have said to themselves "looks like we have a big problem with the Scout suit ... look at how their numbers are slumping ... let's prioritize fixing them ... maybe give 'em something unique to attract folks back." Instead, we united and became a bunch of rabid killers, swapping best practices and build suggestions, all racing for the next Tier on the Killboard, all making the best of a disgustingly bad situation. So CCP says to themselves "looks like we've done a great job with Scouts ... high fives all around ... look at how active they are ... look at how they're playing together and having so much fun ... they even made an in-game channel ... and a nice little home on the forums ... all those pages ... what could they possibly be talking about in there? ... who knows, but they must be so happy ... OK! ... time to go check in with MedFrames on IRC ... maybe make some new Rifles." Be advised. o7 I appreciate the info. This is just a registry for heavys to be known and swap stories. This is not a killboard. We just want a place to vent our frustrations an speak out hopes for the heavy class. Thank you for your service on the scout registry. Your thread helped open my mind about scouts problems I would otherwise have not known about. I'm shy at first but I do creepy and uncomfortable things once I know you
mini rehak The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 149	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:41:00 - [20] - Quote Add me to that list. Running heavy since closed beta. Still tearing ass with the HMG! Know that you mean nothing to me,Nor the lies that seep from your teeth. Won't piss on you if you're on fire.

Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 672	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:53:00 - [21] - Quote former logi turned heavy during closed beta, still rocking the heavy suit on the battlefield be it pub matches, FW or PC YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Goric Rumis Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 253	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:29:00 - [22] - Quote I'm specced deeply into heavy/HMG. The only skill I'm holding out on is Sentinel--not convinced it's worth the 2.4M SP, when compared to expanding into a different role. I love being the underdog, so with my HMG almost maxed out, I've been thinking about jumping into Commando. On the other hand, I've always liked playing medic/engineer roles in other games, and my second most frequent role is a militia medic (with the Skinweave Minmatar suit that has two equipment slots). My perspective on the heavy role as other suits and weapons come out is that the heavy should be the field commander's secondary tool for controlling the flow of the battlefield (the first being HAVs, which should be limited by the maps so there's a lot of the battlefield they can't control in detail). With this as a philosophy, it makes more sense for heavies to be able to counter vehicles because they are both manipulating battlefield flow. This also makes sense of the scout's role in countering heavies, as they reconnoiter, flank, remove obstacles, and pick off solo players, but are not suited to intense firefights. All this to say, I don't think future heavy weapons specifically need to be devastating in terms of raw damage (although it makes sense for the heavy to have at least one such weapon that's devastating specifically to clustered enemies), so long as they're effective for controlling the flow of the battlefield. Get creative with it!
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 414	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:32:00 - [23] - Quote ADD ME IM A SCOUT!!! *Assassination is my thing.*
J0hlss0n Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 64	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:34:00 - [24] - Quote Heavy all day everyday, living on the hope of one time be able to skill into the other racial heavies and hopefully new heavy weapons/gear.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8442	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:39:00 - [25] - Quote <-- Win ISK / Vids / O7
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1222	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:40:00 - [26] - Quote Might as well put my fat ass on the list. Also: the FG nerf really doesn't look that bad folks. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 200/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Virtual Riot The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 98	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:47:00 - [27] - Quote Proto Heavy Proto Forge Guns Avd HMG lv5 armor plating, weapon upgrades, and armor repair
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 214	Posted - 2013.12.07 19:06:00 - [28] - Quote Hmm Caldari hmg? A multi barrel rail rifle with a charge up and overheat low RoF, high damage and accurate up to 60m? What's your thoughts We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 628	Posted - 2013.12.07 19:10:00 - [29] - Quote You're missing some of the best heavies in the game Preston D 2 Kasper Loc WAR-MONGER SLAUGHTER To name a few. I'm sure I'll think of more later. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 580	Posted - 2013.12.07 19:12:00 - [30] - Quote I will be once the minmatar comes out... Host of Zilla's Games! The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.



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