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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.07 05:14:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
GOOO AWAY Atiim!!!!
Oh well would you look at that, I've been inb4'd.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.07 05:19:00 -
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I already have >4.5 mil invested into AV.
And for the love of all thing just and holy on this godforsaken planet known as Earth, what teamwork is an HAV pilot required to use?
Answer: None.
So how much teamwork should AV be required to use?
Answer: None.
Teamwork for all, or teamwork for none.
Your "teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me" model does not work well in terms of balance.
Also, tell me how being the best counter to your own class is balanced.
Answer: It's not.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.07 05:35:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Tank prices are the only issue. Every role in Dust should be profitable. With standard tanks getting popped in 3 volleys of proto swarms, that's impossible.
I look at it this way, but in a dropsuit, should something fire at you from 400 meters away, do 1/3rd of all your HP and you cannot see where they are coming from?
Oh and your cheapest suit costs 600K.
Exactly
Well if they have a PRO Sniper rifle, then of course.
But I still believe that tanks need a price de-buff. Currently the playstyle is limited to the rich players only, which doesn't seem fair when I and so many other people love tanks but cant afford to always run them.
And on another note, can anyone explain why a PRO turret costs 1mil ISK? It's not even that good when the enemy vehicle is using hardners.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.07 17:47:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Atiim wrote:I already have >4.5 mil invested into AV.
And for the love of all thing just and holy on this godforsaken planet known as Earth, what teamwork is an HAV pilot required to use?
Answer: None.
So how much teamwork should AV be required to use?
Answer: None.
Teamwork for all, or teamwork for none.
Your "teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me" model does not work well in terms of balance.
Also, tell me how being the best counter to your own class is balanced.
Answer: It's not. I was using this as an example AV would help a 10 mil sp tanker beat a 10 mil sp tanker We require a second tank for support or infantry calling out AV and trying to take them out I always roll in squads so I have support. So even though we use teamwork you should not lol lol are you copying Sprks description of AV so original A dropsuit is the best counter to a dropsuit why can't a tank be the best couter to a tank. Example Amarr assault > Caldari assault why can't Caldari tank > Gallente tank.
I revised Spkr's description because it's the actual truth. And I pay him a sum of 1 ISK in royalties everytime I use the quote on the forums.
And none of that is actually required. While you may use teamwork, you are in no way required to. However you want AV to be required to use teamwork to be successful.
AV is only successful when the vehicle is destroyed, so it would not be balanced to force teamwork upon AV when HAVs are not forced to use teamwork at all.
And I've yet to see any comment from a DEV saying that we will be reviving webifiers and receive points for damaging the vehicle. So please don't spew that stuff towards me.
And you can't list one thing that an HAV is required to do involving teamwork to be successful. An HAV is completely self-sustainable on the battlefield so AV should be completely self sustainable on the battlefield.
Using a dropsuit is the best counter to a dropsuit is way to much of an over generalization. That's like me saying "A vehicle is the best counter to a vehicle". Even though they are two different types of vehicles. Try again.
And currently nobody is forced to use teamwork. So your point is invalid.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.07 17:57:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:I don't understand what everyone's problem with tanks is. I run tanks, over 700K Isk every time. Does your FG or SL cost that much? How about your suit? Remember, not only do we have the tank, we run in suits, as well, a lot of us with repair tools to heal it. We can also have 3 people in our tank and all three get killed by ONE SL user. Really? I'M IN A TANK. It's called a TANK for a reason.
A tank does not constitute invincibility to AV, nor does it constitute being better at AV than AV itself.
You can use a free suit in a tank, so that argument is invalid.
If I had a 30k AUR BPO suit that had:
2x Wyrikomi Swarm Launchers
1x Ishukone Assault SMG
5x Complex Damage Mods
2x Ishukone Gauged Nanohives
2x Wyrikomi Triage Nanohives
3x Complex Reactive Plates
1x Complex Kinetic Catilyzer
1x Complex Cardiac Regulator.
Base Shields: 650HP
Base Armor: 700HP
And it's a Medium Frame.
Would that be OP? Of course not. I did pay more than you.
The amount of ISK or AUR you've paid holds no bearings in terms of balance.
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