Battle Academy should be lengthened to 20,000 to 50,000 WP, not tiered. How would we find new recruits for corporations if all battles were tiered? This is a much promoted bad idea.

That could be agreed on as far as a war point total to get out, that would give the newberries time enough to earn enough sp and get somewhere. It wont be much, but if they know what they are doing, they can have at least either a proto suit or a few advanced and maybe a proto weapon out of the academy. You could still search for new recruits in the game types as well if you want to take it a step further and grade their performance based on the Tier type to their performance in match. That's how I ended up being with O.T.F for a little while because one of the directors found me doing better than him in a likewise half advanced suit. He had a much better SP count of course, but when it comes to having an equal playing ground (semi equal anyways, Skill boosts and all)) You should be able to tell who has the skill out of the rest. :)

Getting paired with proto players will often teach new guys the ropes quite quickly.

While I share the frustration of newberries not having the SP to go against other proto level players I find that the smart ones will do what they need to to survive longer and the smarter ones still will run starter fits until there is a reason to run something other than their cheap stuff. Complete matches by furthering team goals and still do well on wp because hacking, couterhacking and getting assists and finishing kills will still earn WP.

Getting paired with proto players will often teach new guys the ropes quite quickly. I advocate a basic knowledge as to what to do, and don't think that 20-50k SP is going to be enough to proto a suit or weapon but do think it is quite possibly enough to understand what to do in game to get further ahead when joining matches against protobears and militia pub stompers alike.

Agreed; We had a match of Domination last night, where the matchmaking worked really well but with a twist!

We were dropped into a Domination 6 vs 6, (which after that intense game I think this should be a gamemode) anyway, we had a blueberry join our squad and he was telling us on coms how this was his first game out of the academy and that all he did in the academy was kill about 5 people and that was that!

Luckily he had coms and we had a free squad slot open otherwise I really do believe he would have quit the game there and then because that match was REALLY brutal (but fun).

Matchmaking sorted out or a longer Academy with more tutorials.

Good thought. Since non-tiered matches between vets and newbies are so successful in Dust I think they should introduce the same mechanic in Eve online. I'm sure the devs of Eve online will respond very well to removing Concord from that game. The community is going to love it and new player retention will surely improve!

You mean like 10 snipers in one game while your squad is the only one who does something. SUUUUUURE

Ain't gonna happen.

There is no mechanism in the Battle Finder to resolve any of the issues that you, accurately, pointed out.

There is no matchmaking in DUST.

There is none in EVE beyond the security levels as far as I can tell (non-EVE player). There is nothing to prevent PvP scams, ganking and other villainy. Because that is how New Eden functions. Ganking Paradise.

From a more boring technical standpoint we have an amazing lack of information.

How many Mercs are actively waiting for battles? Per battle type and per FW race as well.

There would need to be some limit on what people can use in a match, maybe not but that is what has been requested since the BETA. For example: Proto and Vehicles have been repeatedly asked to be set as either on or off. An all Proto match or a no-Proto match would be the hoped for battle.

Or they could limit battle choices on any of: Total WP, total SP, allocated SP (since we know total and unallocated that should be easy).

Make a weekly adjustment until some of the QQ subsides and/or the New Berries continue playing the game.

Also, if there is enough AUR being purchased ... frankly CCP/Shanghai (and CCP/Mothership) probably won't care.

I would like to start choosing maps. As it is now, from certain positions I just Leave Battle. Why bother when the map position is this bad? mAnus Peak from the South.


Welcome to DUST.

OR you could make academy last until you have 2-3 mil SP.

OR you could make academy last until you have 2-3 mil SP.

It just needs to be tiered out and game match making introduced

I think that the most reasonable way is just forget about tiers and WP and include another filter, where you chose which match you want, normal, advanced or proto, and on this matches only this gear is allowed.

I've got 12m sp, but i only use militia BPOs, would i be overpowered playing only in normal gear matches?