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Hattori420 sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 0	Posted - 2013.12.06 17:58:00 - [31] - Quote would be interesting to see a commando with a combat and assault rifle
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 169	Posted - 2013.12.06 18:10:00 - [32] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Step 1: Flux the triage hives and any shields they may have. Step 2: Apply a liberal dose of projectile and explosive weaponry. Step 3: Rinse and repeat. I'm so curious what the next FoTM will be since this one is likely coming to an end. Rail Rifle Commandos with AR as a backup using a Scanner... ;)
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1328	Posted - 2013.12.06 18:12:00 - [33] - Quote Hattori420 wrote: would be interesting to see a commando with a combat and assault rifle That'd be ass-backwards. Use the longer range anti armor weapon to plink away at their shield, then they get in range of your shorter, anti-shield weapon once they have nothing but armor :p You would want a Scrambler and a CR or RR if you wanted to combo them. Shields as Weapons
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1551	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:50:00 - [34] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: someone who destroyed all of the shield tankers with the SR when uprising first came out, and who will destroy all of the armor tankers with the CR in 1.7 ;) You only destroy people with the SCR because you glitch the heat on it. lol I didn't even know about that glitch until 1.6, and by that time I moved away from the regular one and now use the Assault Scrambler Rifle. Also, no. I don't purposely overheat my weapon when I'm fighting other players just to abuse a glitch that removes my sprint function, ADS, and reload just so that I can keep firing. Maybe in self defense, but know that ever since I found out about it I have been supporting a bug fix of the problem. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4466	Posted - 2013.12.07 00:28:00 - [35] - Quote Nope. It has +10% to armor and -5% to shields. Kinda weird that it isn't -10% but oh well. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1552	Posted - 2013.12.07 00:31:00 - [36] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Nope. It has +10% to armor and -5% to shields. Kinda weird that it isn't -10% but oh well. Nope? To what? I said it is 20% more damage to armor than the AR, I never said anything aout shields. It would be 15% less damaging to shields than an AR, but when 90% of a person's health is armor, shields don't matter. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 791	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:01:00 - [37] - Quote Rozencrutz89 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Thank you for posting a logical pre-emptive thread to all the armor tankers whining like little girls. Maybe people will stop bitching about the "shield nerf" being unnecessary now that we'll have weapons against both tank types. This No, THIS. This idea is insane. MINMATAR ARISE! DEMAND that our race's suits be FIXED!!! *WE WILL NOT GIVE IN!!* MATARI PRIDE!! FIX TTK!!
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 295	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:09:00 - [38] - Quote For the record i was predicting the CR to be deemed Op ever since i read the Clipsize. For any other questions, consult sig. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I haz knife. Me get steak?
Cosgar ParagonX 8459	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:09:00 - [39] - Quote Not sure how the combat rifle is going to be in terms of balance until I get my hands on it. But I have a feeling the rail rifle is either going to be underpowered or breach AR OP, one or the other. I'm terrified of this thing and I shield tank. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
DeadlyAztec11 2522	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:12:00 - [40] - Quote I don't care what you hippies have, I'm cutting down your tents anyways! Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.

Mordecai Snake Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 9	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:48:00 - [41] - Quote Most of the unreleased weapons are anti-armor. http://i40.tinypic.com/2d2679c.png
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7325	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:55:00 - [42] - Quote The weapon only does 10%+ to armor, not 20%. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 343	Posted - 2013.12.07 07:56:00 - [43] - Quote I'm gonna use my enemy's tech (flux) against them with my RR. Names of playstyles
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4597	Posted - 2013.12.07 08:08:00 - [44] - Quote I wont I'll be using one. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 343	Posted - 2013.12.07 08:13:00 - [45] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I wont I'll be using one. Huh? Kador, you're being more cryptic than usual, my friend. Names of playstyles
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1293	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:10:00 - [46] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: If you armor tank and find yourself dying a ton by the combat rifle, please don't complain about it being OP. It does 20% more damage to armor than an AR and 30% more damage to armor than the scrambler. Just keep that in mind before you post on here about how OP the combat rifle is just because 90% of your health is armor. Sincerely, someone who destroyed all of the shield tankers with the SR when uprising first came out, and who will destroy all of the armor tankers with the CR in 1.7 ;) So would a commando with a scrambler and a combat rifle would be double OP? Kind of sounds fun. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 349	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:16:00 - [47] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: If you armor tank and find yourself dying a ton by the combat rifle, please don't complain about it being OP. It does 20% more damage to armor than an AR and 30% more damage to armor than the scrambler. Just keep that in mind before you post on here about how OP the combat rifle is just because 90% of your health is armor. Sincerely, someone who destroyed all of the shield tankers with the SR when uprising first came out, and who will destroy all of the armor tankers with the CR in 1.7 ;) So would a commando with a scrambler and a combat rifle would be double OP? Kind of sounds fun. I'll need to try this.... Thanks for the idea. Names of playstyles
DeeJay One Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 134	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:20:00 - [48] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: That said, everyone is STILL forgetting about the Rail Rifle. I myself will be using the Combat Rifle, so I'm not even exempt :3 Nah, I'm not forgetting about it, only the CR should be overall more effective as it does only -5% to shields, while the Rail does -10%. (of course I'm not including DPS in that calculations ;) Frankly I'd rather have all the weapon drawbacks bigger with the buffs staying the same, so if you choose the wrong weapon you would do almost nothing to the other form of tank (like for the AR +10 shields and -20% to armour, rail -20% shields an +10% armour). But that's just a stupid idea from my side ;)
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1064	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:30:00 - [49] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: If you armor tank and find yourself dying a ton by the combat rifle, please don't complain about it being OP. It does 20% more damage to armor than an AR and 30% more damage to armor than the scrambler. Just keep that in mind before you post on here about how OP the combat rifle is just because 90% of your health is armor. Sincerely, someone who destroyed all of the shield tankers with the SR when uprising first came out, and who will destroy all of the armor tankers with the CR in 1.7 ;) As a full time veteran a friend , a full armor tanker and SR user i will glady accept this challenge ^______^ My PS3 is dusty ._. Level 1 Forum Warrior
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4599	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:33:00 - [50] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: I wont I'll be using one. Huh? Kador, you're being more cryptic than usual, my friend. I will be getting the proto Combat rifle off of the bat to replace the ScR as my standard combat rifle. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"

Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 350	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:41:00 - [51] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: I wont I'll be using one. Huh? Kador, you're being more cryptic than usual, my friend. I will be getting the proto Combat rifle off of the bat to replace the ScR as my standard combat rifle. Wait, what? You, you, you...? How could you say that, Kador? You're Amarr all the way. Or so I thought. Names of playstyles
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 401	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:44:00 - [52] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: I armor tank, an i will say that the Combat Rifle is OP. Not because of it armor bonus however, but because it is balanced against the AR. and the AR is NOT balanced at all.
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4601	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:56:00 - [53] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: I wont I'll be using one. Huh? Kador, you're being more cryptic than usual, my friend. I will be getting the proto Combat rifle off of the bat to replace the ScR as my standard combat rifle. Wait, what? You, you, you...? How could you say that, Kador? You're Amarr all the way. Or so I thought. Have you read the description of the Combat Rifle, its widely used by many military units New Eden wide, cheap and easy to maintain, and more importantly going to be a good PDF weapon if I ever have to get out of my tank.....unfortunately no amarrian tanks yet. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 351	Posted - 2013.12.07 09:58:00 - [54] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: True Adamance wrote: I wont I'll be using one. Huh? Kador, you're being more cryptic than usual, my friend. I will be getting the proto Combat rifle off of the bat to replace the ScR as my standard combat rifle. Wait, what? You, you, you...? How could you say that, Kador? You're Amarr all the way. Or so I thought. Have you read the description of the Combat Rifle, its widely used by many military units New Eden wide, cheap and easy to maintain, and more importantly going to be a good PDF weapon if I ever have to get out of my tank.....unfortunately no amarrian tanks yet. Fair enough. Names of playstyles
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1553	Posted - 2013.12.07 10:01:00 - [55] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: The weapon only does 10%+ to armor, not 20%. Um, I'm pretty sure I said COMPARED TO THE AR, it will do 20% more damage to armor. AR does -10% to armor, combat rifle will do +10% damage...so a 20% difference. I know that projectile weapons do -5% to shields and +10% damage to armor. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1578	Posted - 2013.12.10 09:02:00 - [56] - Quote bump for 1.7 Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 374	Posted - 2013.12.10 09:14:00 - [57] - Quote it wont be OP,just boaderline mediocre, burstfire weapons dont have a good track record in video games at least the ones iv played.The full auto variant may be worth looking at but have my fingers crossed. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Scar Scrilla Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2013.12.10 10:34:00 - [58] - Quote Gonna run SCR and Rail Rifle or Combat Rifle in my Commando. Even more deadly than my current combo :) See ya'll! :) "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" Scar Scrilla, CEO of Cobra Kommando
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1582	Posted - 2013.12.10 10:55:00 - [59] - Quote Scar Scrilla wrote: Gonna run SCR and Rail Rifle or Combat Rifle in my Commando. Even more deadly than my current combo :) See ya'll! :) I might try this too :P I wonder which one I should make assault...the combat rifle or the scrambler rifle (assault variant that is). That way I always have a good CQC weapon. Maybe CR as a finishing weapon that's good against armor like the SMG. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 311	Posted - 2013.12.10 11:06:00 - [60] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: I armor tank, an i will say that the Combat Rifle is OP. Not because of it armor bonus however, but because it is balanced against the AR. Well honestly compared to the current AR ALL of the new Rifles (and the adjusted old ones) will be OP. CCP fixed the AR by introducing even more OP weapons....



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