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lDocHollidayl
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:10:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:so the charging time for the FG was not long enough? really? 3 seconds is a long time to charge a weapon while trying to dodge bullets and grenades being thrown at us. now its 4 seconds charge time???? so now we have to really dodge those bullets and hope that we survive long enough to charge the FG?
geez CCP why dont you just nail our balls to the floor why dont you? Because you don't have to worry about bullets when you've got 5-6 people with forgeguns on a roof and 2 logi's spamming nanohives and uplinks for them. No one ever actually took the forge-gun into close quarters combat, they got up on a rooftop and sniped with it, or *occasionally* chased vehicles if there wasn't a good roof for them. Don't create false dichotomies or misrepresent information, it doesn't cause discussions to go anywhere. The forge-gun will still oneshot practically any dropsuit, the nerf on them was to prevent them from one-shotting practically any vehicle now too.
How much sense does it make to nerf a weapon due to a certain situation where it appears OP? So now it is balanced according to your logic when i have 3 teammates fighting and repping with me. But when I am alone it is UP? right?
To nerf weapons due to situations is illogical and lazy. BTW ... no breach will ever hit the sweet spot on a tank in a real battle situation...read first part... to nerf something because you tested in a empty game means at the very best and rarest of times it can do what you complain and whine about..OP? The heavies are junk and all their weapons too. That is why more heavies with ARs and Scr can be found now more than anything else. The community has done more harm to the game then aid. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
412
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:12:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Base HP of gunnlogis will be close to 2300 shield right?
If so you will literally instantly kill any tank that doesn't have resistance.
Sooo... Upset about nerf why?
I also had a fatty race:
Mlt forge walking whilst charging, versus dcma/5 bunny hopping.
Dcma won. And mlt guy was only half way there btw.
Long charge i can shoot twice with my assault forge gun in 5 sec and the breach gun can shoot 2 in 12 secs
Assassination is my thing.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1372
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:16:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:so the charging time for the FG was not long enough? really? 3 seconds is a long time to charge a weapon while trying to dodge bullets and grenades being thrown at us. now its 4 seconds charge time???? so now we have to really dodge those bullets and hope that we survive long enough to charge the FG?
geez CCP why dont you just nail our balls to the floor why dont you? Because you don't have to worry about bullets when you've got 5-6 people with forgeguns on a roof and 2 logi's spamming nanohives and uplinks for them. No one ever actually took the forge-gun into close quarters combat, they got up on a rooftop and sniped with it, or *occasionally* chased vehicles if there wasn't a good roof for them. Don't create false dichotomies or misrepresent information, it doesn't cause discussions to go anywhere. The forge-gun will still oneshot practically any dropsuit, the nerf on them was to prevent them from one-shotting practically any vehicle now too. How much sense does it make to nerf a weapon due to a certain situation where it appears OP? So now it is balanced according to your logic when i have 3 teammates fighting and repping with me. But when I am alone it is UP? right? To nerf weapons due to situations is illogical and lazy. BTW ... no breach will ever hit the sweet spot on a tank in a real battle situation...read first part... to nerf something because you tested in a empty game means at the very best and rarest of times it can do what you complain and whine about..OP? The heavies are junk and all their weapons too. That is why more heavies with ARs and Scr can be found now more than anything else. The community has done more harm to the game then aid.
dude there arte plenty of vet tankers who will tell you of the damage I used to inflict with the dcma breech variant , mr Jason peirson watched me destroy a team mates sagi with 2 shots simply because I got the first shot on the sweet spot and stripped 6000 shields in one shot. the breech varients are monsters in the hands of experienced forge gunners and im not talking about tower sniping forge gunners.
Its gone from suck .....to blow
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
Top Men.
292
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:03:00 -
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If forges had the same RoF as before, it would be THE SAME ******* PROBLEM.
Imagine a sniper rifle that does 600 damage a shot, and shoots 4x a second?
Now give it splash damage of 200 and a usable CqC hipfire.
I'll vote your forges get 1.0 second charge, but give sniper rifles 300% damage against heavies AND EXO-5 splash characteristics.
A fully decked thales' sniper can only do about 1100 on a headshot, during the realignment phase, said heavy can simply stand backwards 3feet and sit on his triage hive, and waltz back out in a matter of 10 seconds.
LAV murder man:
"I can kill with rails, therefore they're OP."
CCP give me duct-tape extenders!
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
Top Men.
292
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:08:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Base HP of gunnlogis will be close to 2300 shield right?
If so you will literally instantly kill any tank that doesn't have resistance.
Sooo... Upset about nerf why?
I also had a fatty race:
Mlt forge walking whilst charging, versus dcma/5 bunny hopping.
Dcma won. And mlt guy was only half way there btw. Long charge i can shoot twice with my assault forge gun in 5 sec and the breach gun can shoot 2 in 12 secs
So you expect tanks then to play the scout playstyle?
They're not allowed to stay outside for more than 5 seconds as Iafg's will kill them in tht timeframe.
Wyrkombreaches will INSTAPOP gunny's if they don't have resistance. Which they can't because of the currnt 10 second uptime.
So you tell me then how to run my tank, seeing as you know more about tanks than tankers.
LAV murder man:
"I can kill with rails, therefore they're OP."
CCP give me duct-tape extenders!
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
399
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:32:00 -
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Yeah totally, one shoting my python because I can't see you or your charging forge gun was balanced. Yeah, totally..... |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
333
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:49:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Yeah totally, one shoting my python because I can't see you or your charging forge gun was balanced. Yeah, totally.....
Agreed. It got way out of hand. I see ONE guy running at me, I leave. In my tank. MY EFFING TANK. ONE INFANTRY. Specifically a Forge Gunner.
Names of playstyles
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
531
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:53:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Yeah totally, one shoting my python because I can't see you or your charging forge gun was balanced. Yeah, totally.....
They charge for 6 seconds and are immobile and are shining while doing so, and are limited to a bad suit. That's the risk you took for flying, making you are target for everyone. That's worse then saying "A Thale one-shot me on an open road it's unfair". |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
334
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:06:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Yeah totally, one shoting my python because I can't see you or your charging forge gun was balanced. Yeah, totally..... They charge for 6 seconds and are immobile and are shining while doing so, and are limited to a bad suit. That's the risk you took for flying, making you are target for everyone. That's worse then saying "A Thale one-shot me on an open road it's unfair".
and my tank, which is more expensive than my friend here's dropship? Like, seriously, how you gonna get out of this one.
Names of playstyles
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
533
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:32:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Yeah totally, one shoting my python because I can't see you or your charging forge gun was balanced. Yeah, totally..... They charge for 6 seconds and are immobile and are shining while doing so, and are limited to a bad suit. That's the risk you took for flying, making you are target for everyone. That's worse then saying "A Thale one-shot me on an open road it's unfair". and my tank, which is more expensive than my friend here's dropship? Like, seriously, how you gonna get out of this one.
Ah yes, I forgot ISK/SP > Skill/gameplay balance. |
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