DUST Search - Dropship shopping in 1.7 - SP Costs and Which one first

richiesutie 2 wrote:

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

The basics I think you'll need for a decent Caldari dropship (you'll need to look up Gallente and the SP totals yourself)

Vehicle Command- 3
Dropship Command- 3
Assault DS- 1
Caldari ADS- 1

Turret Op- 1
Small Turret Op- 5
Small Missle Op- 3 (5 for proto)

Vehicle Upgrades- 3
Shield Upgrades- 5
Shield Fitting Optimization- 4
Core Upgrades- 5

3, 283, 320 SP. Cheap but I really don't think its got the tank or enough punch. I think it will be a bit weak. HAve you done the numbers on the fitting cost PG/CPU wise. Can you even fit that build?

I've done multiple fits with this:

Two complex hardeners and either a basic heavy shield extender or a complex light booster. EHP of 6-4k with one hardener on (48 sec on, 36 off, but core skill brings it to 1min on, 15sec off), or 12-10k with both on (24 on, 60 off w/o skills), respectively.

If you want an AB, you can put on an Enhanced heavy shield extender and a complex booster with a complex AB. (3.5k EHP + booster).

All these with a proto missile launcher.

What fits did you have in mind?

Where did you pull those numbers from?


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Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2013.12.05 20:57:00 - [1] - Quote I would max rails before blasters. Rails will have improved anti-vehicle/installation damage and some sort of aim assist/forgiveness (or so we're told) and should be nice against tanks and possibly other dropships. As far as total SP costs, I've calculated my ideal fit's minimum SP needs to be just over 3mill SP (that's proto missiles and complex modules). Don't let the max scare you, after 3.2mil, it optimization and branching. Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 4
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 386	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:36:00 - [2] - Quote The basics I think you'll need for a decent Caldari dropship (you'll need to look up Gallente and the SP totals yourself) Vehicle Command- 3 Dropship Command- 3 Assault DS- 1 Caldari ADS- 1 Turret Op- 1 Small Turret Op- 5 Small Missle Op- 3 (5 for proto) Vehicle Upgrades- 3 Shield Upgrades- 5 Shield Fitting Optimization- 4 Core Upgrades- 5 This all should cost about 3.5mil SP. It will allow you to fit complex shield mods and afterburners for defense and have a decent turret for offense. I'd suggest focusing on the core calibration (longer active mods) and core grid management (shorter cool downs). After that, turret and ADS skills for additional damage, etc. Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 4
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 389	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:45:00 - [3] - Quote The best thing for anyone looking into vehicles now (especially on a tight SP allowance) is to go to the stickied fitting too and see what you can fit and how much it will cost. Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 4
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 391	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:18:00 - [4] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: The basics I think you'll need for a decent Caldari dropship (you'll need to look up Gallente and the SP totals yourself) Vehicle Command- 3 Dropship Command- 3 Assault DS- 1 Caldari ADS- 1 Turret Op- 1 Small Turret Op- 5 Small Missle Op- 3 (5 for proto) Vehicle Upgrades- 3 Shield Upgrades- 5 Shield Fitting Optimization- 4 Core Upgrades- 5 3, 283, 320 SP. Cheap but I really don't think its got the tank or enough punch. I think it will be a bit weak. HAve you done the numbers on the fitting cost PG/CPU wise. Can you even fit that build? I've done multiple fits with this: Two complex hardeners and either a basic heavy shield extender or a complex light booster. EHP of 6-4k with one hardener on (48 sec on, 36 off, but core skill brings it to 1min on, 15sec off), or 12-10k with both on (24 on, 60 off w/o skills), respectively. If you want an AB, you can put on an Enhanced heavy shield extender and a complex booster with a complex AB. (3.5k EHP + booster). All these with a proto missile launcher. What fits did you have in mind? Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 4
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 398	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:52:00 - [5] - Quote gbghg wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: before investing in the AB test the base speed first, We are getting our speed doubled. I did a video where i compared, split screen, AB vs non AB. The AB was exactly twice as fast as non AB. So this may mean our max speed in 1.7 is the same as current AB speed. If this is the case an AB may not be needed. or it may become super fun if the same ratio is maintained , which it probably wont be. You're right. The actual multiple for the new ABs areGÇª 2.5x!? Wow. If we already get a 2x increase, plus a 2.5x ABGÇª that's 5x current speeds. Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 4
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 412	Posted - 2013.12.09 18:38:00 - [6] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: The basics I think you'll need for a decent Caldari dropship (you'll need to look up Gallente and the SP totals yourself) Vehicle Command- 3 Dropship Command- 3 Assault DS- 1 Caldari ADS- 1 Turret Op- 1 Small Turret Op- 5 Small Missle Op- 3 (5 for proto) Vehicle Upgrades- 3 Shield Upgrades- 5 Shield Fitting Optimization- 4 Core Upgrades- 5 3, 283, 320 SP. Cheap but I really don't think its got the tank or enough punch. I think it will be a bit weak. HAve you done the numbers on the fitting cost PG/CPU wise. Can you even fit that build? I've done multiple fits with this: Two complex hardeners and either a basic heavy shield extender or a complex light booster. EHP of 6-4k with one hardener on (48 sec on, 36 off, but core skill brings it to 1min on, 15sec off), or 12-10k with both on (24 on, 60 off w/o skills), respectively. If you want an AB, you can put on an Enhanced heavy shield extender and a complex booster with a complex AB. (3.5k EHP + booster). All these with a proto missile launcher. What fits did you have in mind? Where did you pull those numbers from? The vehicle DEV blog Module Changes. I will be stacking 2 complex hardeners. WIth out the skill bonuses, the duration time is 24sec and the recharge is 60sec. By staggering them, I get 48sec on and because one of the modules is recharging while the other is on, the time I'm with out a hardener is cut to 36sec (I was pulling numbers out from memory there, these are the correct numbers). With lvl5 in both duration and recharge time, the duration is extended to 30sec on and a 45 sec cool down for each, granting me 1min of resistance with a 15sec cool down in between. Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 4
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 412	Posted - 2013.12.09 19:02:00 - [7] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Foxhound Elite wrote: .. Next week on 'Dropship Dealers', Judge finds a rusty old Viper from the scrapyard and transformers her into a afterburnin' assault airdevil... Just call me Judge Xzibit. http://i.imgur.com/YlE2U.gif Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 4