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SmokeThatKush AllDay
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:51:00 -
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We have finnaly figoured it out! we know why pc is broken so let me give u a couple corp names that are doin this an i bet u all of dust will agree with me on this . dem durty boys, ancient exiles, outer.haven n nyan san and also team players use this also.
So i had this guy tell me no 1 will ever have a chance to take ancient exiles out because theyll make sure we dont get host in game. how they do it. is by gettn in there first. in pc and they pull host but there playin on other servers . like oceianic blah blah all those other servers an when they do this everyone thats on the otherside get lagg'd right out plz devs. fix this problem this is the reason pc is broken they do stuff after they get host. ask anyone they will vouch this when u go up against any of those corps above u will lagg. thats why they cant be beat... fix that an watch them lose everything. no lie. and thats plaine out cheating. and its not right. so plzzz guys fix this stuff... or alott of people are going to quit an i kno ill be 1 of em to cuz this is bs. sorry for my language. 
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Veka Kari
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:11:00 -
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To reiterate what my corp member had stated, we have found that there are corps out there that are abusing ping timing when fighting in PC's. We have found a member of a specific corp, i.e. kamakazi- TanKer, who has stated that he forces himself to become HOST of the PC, and adds himself and his PC mates to a "Firewall" in order to heighten the ping of the opposing side.
It would be in CCP's best interest to have a centralized PC server to have better ping timing for all members of a PC battle. We apologize for what our corp-mate had stated in the language he had used, he was very upset about this, and was talked to about his posting.
Thank you all for understanding, and good fighting!
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
2326
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:15:00 -
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things of this nature only apply to 2 teams from different regions. old news bro
the problem in PC now is lag when 'host' is the same geographical region for both sides, and the latency is pi$$ poor to say the least.
we had our tricks to improve chances of a high ping back in the day, but was only relevant when being an NA crew facing an EU or Asian crew.
the problems that are prevalent now are observed when both sides would get their preferred server in the first place....
and we don't 'use' anything considering its been almost 2 months since we have been in Molden heath... come on kush I know you're at QQ prof 2 but I expect better out of you 
Common Sense and Logic are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
779
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:24:00 -
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SmokeThatKush AllDay wrote:We have finnaly figoured it out! we know why pc is broken so let me give u a couple corp names that are doin this an i bet u all of dust will agree with me on this . dem durty boys, ancient exiles, outer.haven n nyan san and also team players use this also. So i had this guy tell me no 1 will ever have a chance to take ancient exiles out because theyll make sure we dont get host in game. how they do it. is by gettn in there first. in pc and they pull host but there playin on other servers . like oceianic blah blah all those other servers an when they do this everyone thats on the otherside get lagg'd right out plz devs. fix this problem this is the reason pc is broken they do stuff after they get host. ask anyone they will vouch this when u go up against any of those corps above u will lagg. thats why they cant be beat... fix that an watch them lose everything. no lie. and thats plaine out cheating. and its not right. so plzzz guys fix this stuff... or alott of people are going to quit an i kno ill be 1 of em to cuz this is bs. sorry for my language.
Cool troll bro
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SmokeThatKush AllDay
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:35:00 -
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me troll? your the one on my post trolling? lmao anyways chicago the jig is up man. the truth is up there you guys get host but u guys arent on the same region cuz u guys switch ur servers to different servers witch makes the opposin team lagg. cuz we are on america and you guys play asia or oceianic? this is not trollin my friend this is the truth and ccp will fix this. cuz because of this people are losing MILLIONS IN THESE PC MATCHES. wont be long till they fix this. Lookin forward to it. cheaters keep hatin. get off the post if u dont like this is for a dev to check out and fix. |
Veka Kari
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:54:00 -
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Smoke it is probably best if you do not feed into trolls, otherwise the Devs will probably never come knocking.
MUST READ (All Suits): The Logi Code. You depend on it.
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daishi mk03
BLACK-GUARD
Die Fremdenlegion
487
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Posted - 2013.12.05 21:02:00 -
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So let me rephrase your statement, bro.
You think you PS3 is able to host a Dust game, while you play it.
And then your opponents host the game, with a firewall.
They whitelist their team and give your team a 1sec lag.
What your smoking, bro? You sound likes this Son-of-a-F4g guy.
To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin.
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
711
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Posted - 2013.12.05 21:03:00 -
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I don't understand all the technical stuff with ping and server and host, I just know PC lags for everyone.
The best way I have heard to mitigate lag is to join the war barge, then leave squad, then completely power down your play station, wait 10 seconds, then boot up and go straight back into PC war barge
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SmokeThatKush AllDay
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.05 21:16:00 -
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read up where chicago wrote on his post "we had our tricks to improve chances of a high ping back in the day, but was only relevant when being an NA crew facing an EU or Asian crew" |
SmokeThatKush AllDay
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
2
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Posted - 2013.12.05 22:11:00 -
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see u may say you had these tricks back in the day but no. it still exists they can still do it. so plz n thank u ccp fix this problem.. pc is broken. cuz of this |
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Skittles McDuckett
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.05 23:20:00 -
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SmokeThatKush AllDay wrote:We have finnaly figoured it out! we know why pc is broken so let me give u a couple corp names that are doin this an i bet u all of dust will agree with me on this . dem durty boys, ancient exiles, outer.haven n nyan san and also team players use this also. So i had this guy tell me no 1 will ever have a chance to take ancient exiles out because theyll make sure we dont get host in game. how they do it. is by gettn in there first. in pc and they pull host but there playin on other servers . like oceianic blah blah all those other servers an when they do this everyone thats on the otherside get lagg'd right out plz devs. fix this problem this is the reason pc is broken they do stuff after they get host. ask anyone they will vouch this when u go up against any of those corps above u will lagg. thats why they cant be beat... fix that an watch them lose everything. no lie. and thats plaine out cheating. and its not right. so plzzz guys fix this stuff... or alott of people are going to quit an i kno ill be 1 of em to cuz this is bs. sorry for my language.
Kush, you are amazing... just wow.... anyways, this game is server side. CCP hosts the match, so what you are talking about make no sense. This hosting lag issue that you speak of only affects matches that are being fought between different regions, you would of course want the match hosted in your region. If someone forced the match onto the Oceanic server, EVERYONE would lag that wasn't in the region. Get your facts right and don't get so easily pulled into someone that is obviously trolling you. AE, DDB, OH, NS win because they have talented teams. Stop being so whiney towards DDB cause we stomped you guys. You are the one that double crossed us on multiple occasions and you are the one that stole your corp wallet. Don't be mad at us. Have fun on house arrest, you degenerate.
Skittles McDuckett, DDB director -
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ELITE INQUISITOR
Eternal Beings
40
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Posted - 2013.12.06 00:43:00 -
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I've been in a few pcs and I've only experienced the lag a couple times. If it is an accidental bug it needs to be fixed. If corps are causing this to happen to stack the odds in their favor then they need to have all their districts and their corp wallet stripped after ccp fixes the bug. Not accusing any corp of doing this. Bottom line, Ccp needs to fix the lag regardless.
If you accept your limitations you go beyond them
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
2328
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Posted - 2013.12.06 00:45:00 -
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SmokeThatKush AllDay wrote:me troll? your the one on my post trolling? lmao anyways chicago the jig is up man. the truth is up there you guys get host but u guys arent on the same region cuz u guys switch ur servers to different servers witch makes the opposin team lagg. cuz we are on america and you guys play asia or oceianic? this is not trollin my friend this is the truth and ccp will fix this. cuz because of this people are losing MILLIONS IN THESE PC MATCHES. wont be long till they fix this. Lookin forward to it. cheaters keep hatin. get off the post if u dont like this is for a dev to check out and fix.
american servers all day bro, dont confuse myself and my crew with the shenanigans of others
Common Sense and Logic are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
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Grease Spillett
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
152
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Posted - 2013.12.06 00:56:00 -
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You're kinda behind the curve I have read alot of posts on this issue and most corps already have asked for a limiter on equipment or a fix to pc lag.
Honestly when Lag gets that bad we use an emp eve strike and it clears it right up! Maybe this will help.
Also I use aim assist. I farm warpoints because there's no other way to get warpoints. If I kill someone is that a farm? I think that term is misused. I've never witnessed anyone have enough time in a pc to stand and shoot in a pile of nanohives.
That would be farming to me. Plus I think it was Warriors INC?? That used that tactic to get 7 orbitals in pub and pc matches which is why they tuned down the points recieved for ammo.
I think the other reason that above mentioned corporations are so hard to beat is there's alot of incredible people fighting for them.
I am nothing special I am just a no name scrub who was lucky enough to be picked up by one of the best corp's in a game.
I love Ancient Exiles and I know the point of this post wasn't to bash these corps. I would love to see something happen with pc so plus 1 keep up the good fight!
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
2179
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Posted - 2013.12.06 00:59:00 -
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PC has problems and there are some cheesy tactics that everybody uses, but the corps you named above are just really ******* good at Dust.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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The Baby Shaker
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
30
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Posted - 2013.12.06 03:58:00 -
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Wasnt aware kush even knew what pc was like with all his rage quits and "CCP banned me " BS. Its ashame Valcore buys into your lies cause he's awesome. Also if you want to troll learn to spell, **** I'm drunk and wrote this.
I'm too drunk to taste this chicken
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Kane Fyea
2328
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Posted - 2013.12.06 04:04:00 -
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What you have said makes no sense. No one but CCP host PC matches. |
Pr0phetzReck0ning
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2013.12.06 04:44:00 -
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I had a good laugh, how about the rest of you? |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.12.06 05:19:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:What you have said makes no sense. No one but CCP host PC matches.
hes talking about controlling the location of the host to ensure one side of the battle lags more then the other, then useing equip spam to completly lag out one side while leaving the other side free to move around.
he doesnt mean the player has host, he means the system has used that player to decide where to host itself within the CCP server network.
its been a well known practice in games where the two teams are located in two difference geographic areas.
an EU team would use a team member to game the system into hosting the game on an EU server to lag out a US oposition. |
TheWee BabySeamus
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
48
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Posted - 2013.12.06 06:21:00 -
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SmokeThatKush AllDay wrote:We have finnaly figoured it out! we know why pc is broken so let me give u a couple corp names that are doin this an i bet u all of dust will agree with me on this . dem durty boys, ancient exiles, outer.haven n nyan san and also team players use this also. So i had this guy tell me no 1 will ever have a chance to take ancient exiles out because theyll make sure we dont get host in game. how they do it. is by gettn in there first. in pc and they pull host but there playin on other servers . like oceianic blah blah all those other servers an when they do this everyone thats on the otherside get lagg'd right out plz devs. fix this problem this is the reason pc is broken they do stuff after they get host. ask anyone they will vouch this when u go up against any of those corps above u will lagg. thats why they cant be beat... fix that an watch them lose everything. no lie. and thats plaine out cheating. and its not right. so plzzz guys fix this stuff... or alott of people are going to quit an i kno ill be 1 of em to cuz this is bs. sorry for my language.
Uh oh, kush is butt hurt again. hang on man i'll get you a Band-Aid for you pain. You're a joke, get good and then you can talk trash. or you can keep rage quitting in every PC you play in because "of lag"..........................come on bro, do your homework before making all of these rants on the forums.
Wee Baby Seamus-------------->DDB Director & #1 Sex chat operator
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IraqiFriendshipExplosive
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.06 06:47:00 -
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The problem isnt that some people are loosing isk... OH NO. The problem is lag and low frame-rate is causing people to stop playing this game. It did for me. I'm sure that is more of an issue for all of us.
I still try to post information and check back here. Now a CCP dev has said they are going to investigate after 1.7 that makes me feel a little more comfortable. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
2332
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Posted - 2013.12.06 13:04:00 -
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IraqiFriendshipExplosive wrote:The problem isnt that some people are loosing isk... OH NO. The problem is lag and low frame-rate is causing people to stop playing this game. It did for me. I'm sure that is more of an issue for all of us.
I still try to post information and check back here. Now a CCP dev has said they are going to investigate after 1.7 that makes me feel a little more comfortable.
Not sure how this could make you feel comfortable...
everyone that has been an active participant in PC at 1 time or another has provided feedback here that its a steaming pile of poo that is gamebreaking. I recall comments dating back to May on the topic.
7 Months later its finally acknowledged as an issue and it will finally be 'investigated'?
SMH
Common Sense and Logic are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
1538
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Posted - 2013.12.06 13:26:00 -
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This is why I don't get involved in PC.
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TheWee BabySeamus
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
49
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Posted - 2013.12.06 13:51:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:IraqiFriendshipExplosive wrote:The problem isnt that some people are loosing isk... OH NO. The problem is lag and low frame-rate is causing people to stop playing this game. It did for me. I'm sure that is more of an issue for all of us.
I still try to post information and check back here. Now a CCP dev has said they are going to investigate after 1.7 that makes me feel a little more comfortable. Not sure how this could make you feel comfortable... everyone that has been an active participant in PC at 1 time or another has provided feedback here that its a steaming pile of poo that is gamebreaking. I recall comments dating back to May on the topic. 7 Months later its finally acknowledged as an issue and it will finally be 'investigated'? SMH
the man has a point, this is nothing new. It has been reported by the players since the first week of PC. CCP clearly doesn't care about the only entertaining part of the game. Oh well, PS4 coming soon, and not the CCP soon.
Wee Baby Seamus-------------->DDB Director & #1 Sex chat operator
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
222
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:07:00 -
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I thought the bigest problem was intentional locking your isk farm
Christ is lord
Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now.
Fear is a choice, I choose not to let it control me.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1580
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:21:00 -
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Had about 50 people quit dust from my training corp and swamp because of this, we've been fed dusts vision, people who know not won't put up with all that slimy trash.
I know that desperate pathetic tactics are valid in dust but let's be real here, a lot of scrubs are just desperate to win period, so desperate they'd do anything to gain an advantage through abusing the game as much as possible, so desperate they'd happily hamstring their opponent to remove ALL the competitive elements out of any match.
People don't bring the beef anymore, they poison it.
Ps: Life is where you should be that desperate to win, games are where you have fun, abusing the game as much as possible is not in the slightest competitive, its just plain desperate and I'll be tking anyone on my team in fw who attempts this equipment spam trash in fw come 1.7.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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douch169
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:02:00 -
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Every game played against Ancient Exiles and also Dem Dirty Boyz Has a Lag Why You ask? they have higher ping and we have lower ping n basically in tech talk that means that people with the higher ping that have host will lag opposing team. This in fack is something that is broken in pc. But can be fixed. Know that CCP knows what it causing the problem they can correct in and gives us smaller corps a chance a victory without lagging to our lose. Which will in turn give us balance!!!!!! MY MATCHS WILL ALL BE VIDEO FROM KNOW ON AND SENT TO CCP TO INVESTIGATE AND FIND A REMEDY TO FIX THE PROBLEM WITH BROKEN PC!!!!!! |
douch169
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:03:00 -
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douch169 wrote:Every game played against Ancient Exiles and also Dem Dirty Boyz Has a Lag Why You ask? they have higher ping and we have lower ping n basically in tech talk that means that people with the higher ping that have host will lag opposing team. This in fack is something that is broken in pc. But can be fixed. Know that CCP knows what it causing the problem they can correct in and gives us smaller corps a chance a victory without lagging to our lose. Which will in turn give us balance!!!!!! MY MATCHS WILL ALL BE VIDEO TAPE FROM KNOW ON AND SENT TO CCP TO INVESTIGATE AND FIND A REMEDY TO FIX THE PROBLEM WITH BROKEN PC!!!!!!
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douch169
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:06:00 -
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TheWee BabySeamus wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:IraqiFriendshipExplosive wrote:The problem isnt that some people are loosing isk... OH NO. The problem is lag and low frame-rate is causing people to stop playing this game. It did for me. I'm sure that is more of an issue for all of us.
I still try to post information and check back here. Now a CCP dev has said they are going to investigate after 1.7 that makes me feel a little more comfortable. Not sure how this could make you feel comfortable... everyone that has been an active participant in PC at 1 time or another has provided feedback here that its a steaming pile of poo that is gamebreaking. I recall comments dating back to May on the topic. 7 Months later its finally acknowledged as an issue and it will finally be 'investigated'? SMH the man has a point, this is nothing new. It has been reported by the players since the first week of PC. CCP clearly doesn't care about the only entertaining part of the game. Oh well, PS4 coming soon, and not the CCP soon.
You defend him because You in fack know what you guys are doing and are infact taking advantage of a broken game mechanic which is CHEATING!!! in my books!!! I DO NOT HAVE RESPECT FOR CHEATERS!!!!!!! |
abarkrishna
warravens
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:07:00 -
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douch169 wrote:Every game played against Ancient Exiles and also Dem Dirty Boyz Has a Lag Why You ask? they have higher ping and we have lower ping n basically in tech talk that means that people with the higher ping that have host will lag opposing team. This in fack is something that is broken in pc. But can be fixed. Know that CCP knows what it causing the problem they can correct in and gives us smaller corps a chance a victory without lagging to our lose. Which will in turn give us balance!!!!!! MY MATCHS WILL ALL BE VIDEO FROM KNOW ON AND SENT TO CCP TO INVESTIGATE AND FIND A REMEDY TO FIX THE PROBLEM WITH BROKEN PC!!!!!!
The real problem you should be trying to fix is your grammar.
No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2.
When will they learn!
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