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Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 134	Posted - 2013.12.05 18:59:00 - [1] - Quote The comms in this game are just bad and it reminds me of the recent Battlefield games which not something to strife for. It all comes down to either isolated squads only communicating with each other or a cluster-*FOXTROT* of a bunch of people talking at once. In either case, an inefficient flow of information is taking place in order for you team to win. In order to fix this, we can take something directly from MAG where there is actual leadership, chat channels, proxy chat, and a call out system (which was rarely used because everything else worked so well). Now I know not everyone here has ever played MAG but the comms system was nearly flawless. There were *proxy chat. This was where both blue-dots and red-dots could hear what you are saying given that you are within a certain distance (roughly 10-15 m). This was loads of fun because you can talk to the enemy, but I digress. While we don't necessarily need to talk to red-dots, this is a necessity in order to effectively talk to blue-dots since the "Team" channel is just a cluster-FOXTROT* and that's only if the blue-dots are in there in teamchat in the first place. What we have now is just simply bad. There was a *call out* system which had the phrases: "I need a pick up" (if you need a vehicle) "I need a medic" (rarely used because most people had at least a first-aid kit [equivalent to the armor repper in Dust] and downed players couldn't make call outs [oops]) "I need repairs" (for vehicles and you don't have a repair tool) "Requesting reinforcements" (duh) Leadership and *chat channels* There were four ranks as far MAG goes. Each rank has special abilities and can call certain airstrikes, but I will not talk about this because this is not what this thread is about and I don't want it either. I will explain each rank as each rank can become relevant in Dust: The Regular This rank is limited to talking only to his other squad mates (squad chat) and the squad leader (SL). He/she cannot switch channels. Squad Leader or SL Only the SL can set fragos. The SL has squad chat and could then go to the platoon chat (by holding up on the d-pad and pressing L2 or R2 to desired channel) and talk to the platoon leader (PL) and the other SLs. While the SL is in this channel, the regulars cannot hear what the SL says, but the SL can hear his squad as well SL also on this channel. Also while on this channel the other SLs and the PL can hear anything he/she says. This allows the PL and other SL to form plans and contemplate without the regulars getting in the way of the conversation. We have SLs in Dust now, but it is the highest official battlefield rank, there is no supreme leader which is a problem. In pub matches, we have a bunch of squads not working together. There are no coordinated attack or defense plans. It is just random. In PC matches, we have a bunch of SL trying to talk over 15 other people (who are also trying to do their job of calling out enemy elements) to tell everyone what to do. It's a mess and inefficient. Platoon Leader or PL The PL has squad chat, platoon chat, company chat (which I will talk about later), and platoon broadcast. Platoon broadcast allowed the PL to talk to everyone in his/her platoon at once. The regulars in the other squads cannot talk to him. It was a one way channel. We seriously need platoon broadcast. It allows coordinated efforts and the PLs voice while in platoons broadcast is questioned only by the SL and the regulars in his squad, not the regulars not in his squad. Officer in Charge or OIC The OIC has squad chat, platoon chat, company chat, and team broadcast. Team broadcast was the same as platoon broadcast, but it applies to the entire team instead of just the platoon. I see a future where Dust will have much more players, but as of now, the OIC position would not be useful. Company chat was the same as platoon chat, but it was a channel reserved for the OIC and PLs instead of the PL and the SLs. Note the team structure in the largest gamemode in MAG was: Team: 128 players Platoon: 32 playes Squad: 8 players 4 platoons in a team 16 squads in a team 4 squads in a platoon As far as Dust in concerned, I think it should go like this: 2 squads of eight 1 PL in one of these squads This^ to be expanded once there are more players in one battlefield. I know this may seem complicated when this was read, but it's really not. It allows everyone to be split in groups of eight instead of 16. I would much rather only listen to 7 or 8 people at a team than 16. Any questions? The not logic bomb!
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 134	Posted - 2013.12.05 19:50:00 - [2] - Quote Green Living wrote: We begged very hard during closed beta for Proxy Chat. Our pleas always fell on deaf ears. While it would be nice if we could hear red-dots too, I find being able to hear blue-dots much more useful and should be a higher priority. The not logic bomb!
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 140	Posted - 2013.12.05 23:41:00 - [3] - Quote Green Living wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Green Living wrote: We begged very hard during closed beta for Proxy Chat. Our pleas always fell on deaf ears. While it would be nice if we could hear red-dots too, I find being able to hear blue-dots much more useful and should be a higher priority. If you played MAG you know there was no problems hearing your own teammates over the proxy chat. Exactly. The-Errorist wrote: Seeing how this still isn't here since this was suggested years ago and it's still not there, makes me sad and disappointed. Tell me about it. The not Logic Bomb! ------>We need this! <------
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 143	Posted - 2013.12.06 00:13:00 - [4] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: BTW I saved a puppy! The more people you tell about it, the more puppies you'll save! Talos Vagheitan wrote: Definitely for tiered team chat! Would love to see it work like this: (When we get commanders of course) EVE Pilot: Communicate with - Field Commander, Squad Leaders FC: Communicate with - EVE Pilot, Squad Leaders, Squad Members (If also a squad leader) Squad Leaders: Communicate wih - FC, other SL's, and squad members Squad Members: Communicate with- Own squad only, including squad leader This combined with proxy chat would be an awesome system. There would be more overall communication happening, but at the same time less clutter. With Squad leaders responsible for relaying information between squads. And when squads get separated you will still be able to communicate with other blues with proxy chat. Exactly what I have in mind essentially. The not Logic Bomb! ------>We need this! <------
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 143	Posted - 2013.12.06 00:57:00 - [5] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: The-Errorist wrote: Seeing how this still isn't here since this was suggested years ago and it's still not there, makes me sad and disappointed. Quit being sad and disappointed. Be happy and optimistic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ The not Logic Bomb! ------>We need this! <------
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 144	Posted - 2013.12.06 01:19:00 - [6] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: The-Errorist wrote: Seeing how this still isn't here since this was suggested years ago and it's still not there, makes me sad and disappointed. Quit being sad and disappointed. Be happy and optimistic. I use light frames, dropships, minmatar assaults, tanks, shotguns, knova knifes, and been here for too long, and was promised too many things that would have been here by now, but got delayed until the unforeseeable future. Being optimistic is hard, results in more disappointment and ISK loss. What's your problem with nova knifes? You don't honestly expect them to be over powered eventually do you. What could they do? As for the rest. Vehicles are in a weird situation. I'm curious what they'll do with them. Scouts make me cry on how easy they are to kill, I think a nerf to the scanner would help. Min-ass are either easy kills or a pain in the ass to kill for me. It seems like they are the most experimented assault suits in the game with the variety I run into. With that being said, the racial it has is utter garbage. lolshotguns, fix the buggy weapon. I was going to spec into it, then the bugs happened. The not Logic Bomb! ------>We need this! <------
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 144	Posted - 2013.12.06 01:28:00 - [7] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: Green Living wrote: We begged very hard during closed beta for Proxy Chat. Our pleas always fell on deaf ears. Proxy chat leaking blue intel? Guess anyone serious will switch to teamspeak then. What? Then you have the cluster-FOXTROT of people talking at once which exactly one of the things this thread is addressing. Even so, there's a chance that the blue-dot is not in teamchat making the effort useless. The not Logic Bomb! ------>We need this! <------
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 147	Posted - 2013.12.06 04:19:00 - [8] - Quote http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q671/cptkirby/Kirbyhat_zps6dd2c32a.gif The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 159	Posted - 2013.12.06 16:19:00 - [9] - Quote Flyingconejo wrote: Come on CCP, give us a better coms system! Save that puppy! There are still more puppies to be saved! The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 160	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:24:00 - [10] - Quote Bump It's hard to keep a topic, that everyone agrees on, up top for everyone to see. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--

Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 172	Posted - 2013.12.08 01:20:00 - [11] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Bump It's hard to keep a topic, that everyone agrees on, up top for everyone to see. ^^^^^ The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 172	Posted - 2013.12.08 06:25:00 - [12] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Bump It's hard to keep a topic, that everyone agrees on, up top for everyone to see. Yeah, there's no1 to argue with to keep this thread going. You're a big wiener butt and you suck at videogames! Am I doing it right? The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 173	Posted - 2013.12.08 16:31:00 - [13] - Quote Blamejudg3s KEQ wrote: Obvious solution is obvious. It's pretty obvious. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 178	Posted - 2013.12.08 21:26:00 - [14] - Quote It's obvious that I said it was obvious when you said it was obvious. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 178	Posted - 2013.12.09 02:08:00 - [15] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Bump It's hard to keep a topic, that everyone agrees on, up top for everyone to see. ^^^^^ The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 197	Posted - 2013.12.09 21:05:00 - [16] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: BUMP for great justice! Do it CCP! http://www.chicagonow.com/daily-miracle/files/2012/03/nike.jpg The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 203	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:37:00 - [17] - Quote Pipsa Possu wrote: Proxy chat: Nope, the comms are secure so you cannot hear the enemy communications unless you manage to hack their comms system. Otherwise some good thoughts here. However the proxy chat brought into mind another equipment that the game should have. Comms scrambler which would effectively disable enemy comms in a certain area for a period of time. I want to note that in the OP that I said proxy chat for listening to the enemy is not necessary, but it would be nice. We really need proxy chat for blue-dots for effective team communication though. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 204	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:39:00 - [18] - Quote Flyingconejo wrote: Blamejudg3s KEQ wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: It's obvious that I said it was obvious when you said it was obvious. of course its crystal clear I didn't get it. Can you start from the beginning again, please? The OP was so full of win that I will actually post twice in this thread. Because CCP has to listen. Save the puppies! Those puppies aren't going to save themselves! The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 206	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:23:00 - [19] - Quote HUNK tm wrote: I didn't played MAG anymore (in fact I didn't knew it I come from EVE) but I heard a lot about it in my corp. So : +100 it seems to be a great game to be closed once again. (RIP) I hear that a lot. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 206	Posted - 2013.12.11 01:15:00 - [20] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: and playing barbie girl on platoon chat never gets old. +1 take note ccp!! Even though you posted this a few days ago, I just had a flashback of Fizzycandy playing Barbie Girl over broadcast. It's a good thing my team still won attacking SVER sabo. I thought I repressed the memory! The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--

Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 206	Posted - 2013.12.11 22:33:00 - [21] - Quote Blamejudg3s KEQ wrote: Kirby, you be goin to hell Because I murder baby animals because I don't get my way? How is that my fault? The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 206	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:44:00 - [22] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: Blamejudg3s KEQ wrote: Pipsa Possu wrote: Proxy chat: Nope, the comms are secure so you cannot hear the enemy communications unless you manage to hack their comms system. Otherwise some good thoughts here. However the proxy chat brought into mind another equipment that the game should have. Comms scrambler which would effectively disable enemy comms in a certain area for a period of time. it would add another dimension to the game if one can hack into enemy comm systems for a period of time. Possibly by using non-lethal stun then hack on the still alive body. Hummm, sounds like another game I know. Is it Skyrim or Streetfighter? I bet it's Streetfighter. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 208	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:33:00 - [23] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: . . VOICE STUFF . . Good stuff. Something similar discussed already here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=872937#post872937 When I searched for the topic in the search bar, all the topics were locked and/or were made before the new year. I didn't see that one. This topic seems to come up often enough to where it seriously needs to be addressed. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 214	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:44:00 - [24] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Bump It's hard to keep a topic, that everyone agrees on, up top for everyone to see. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 216	Posted - 2013.12.19 06:07:00 - [25] - Quote Why does everyone call me "Martin?" It's an "L", not a "T"! My name is like the fish or the Florida baseball team.......ugh, the baseball team that sells their players. Anyway, thanks for the support. Any game that has more than eight players per team should have this and I'm unaware of any game that has done it besides MAG. Kind of annoying that I always have to mention the game when I'm talking about this system. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2013.12.19 20:26:00 - [26] - Quote Flyingconejo wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Why does everyone call me "Martin?" It's an "L", not a "T"! My name is like the fish or the Florida baseball team.......ugh, the baseball team that sells their players. It's ok Lartin, no need to make a fuss. People just misunderstood, but it is natural with everybody being in the same chat channel. Come on CCP, give us better coms today for a better game tomorrow! I have this puppy right here and I don't want to do it, but I will if you don't leave me any other choice. It's in your hands... PD: I didn't know you were a fan of the Florida Martins. Billy the Lartin is my favorite sports mascot. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2013.12.20 14:51:00 - [27] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: I still want this. Everyone should want this. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2013.12.23 07:05:00 - [28] - Quote Everyone should like proxy chat. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2013.12.24 07:08:00 - [29] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Everyone should like proxy chat. Not sure about should; would could be a better word, unless you want to force them to like proxy chat . All part of my evil plan. I'll tell them it's made out of ******* cookies! The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 220	Posted - 2014.01.03 00:00:00 - [30] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: C'mon CCP, don't let a dead company beat you in the having the best chat service ever. At least Zipper got one thing unarguably right. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--

Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 222	Posted - 2014.01.06 15:26:00 - [31] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Goric Rumis wrote: Please include in the original post an explanation of controls. Scanning through the thread but I don't see any obvious explanation. This is easier when you have a keyboard with over 100 potential "buttons," but how do the controls work on a controller? Hold left on d-pad and then use L2 and R2 to scroll through available chats (ie only squad chat for squad members and squad chat + platoon chat for squad leaders etc). That's pretty much the same controls as in MAG except MAG used up on d-pad. Push-to-talk is currently taking up left on d-pad, but they can easily just scrap that function, or make either that or this a toggle function and the other a hold function. They would likely run into some technical problems if they decide to do this, like getting people to listen to a chat they aren't voiced in and getting squad members to stay in squad chat instead of all sorts of custom chats. With that said they should do their best to implement this sort of system, which MAG did flawlessly. It's the best system I've ever seen in a game, and it worked perfectly. Push-to-talk makes me cry. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 236	Posted - 2014.01.17 23:53:00 - [32] - Quote Ultraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bump The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 239	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:04:00 - [33] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: Suanar Daranaus wrote: What does MAG even stand for? Massive Action Game The biggest game mode has 128vs128 players on a huge map. I think it was 1 or 2 km. I believe it was just under 1 km-¦. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 251	Posted - 2014.01.23 22:14:00 - [34] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: I just re-relized that this thread is that old and CCP still has not commented on this thread . This makes me cry. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 255	Posted - 2014.01.25 21:37:00 - [35] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Just discovered today and seriously, bump. This should have come in before FW. FW should have been run with this level of communication in mind considering the cluster-f@ck communicating with eve pilots is now. They can brag about a connection between dust and eve all they want, but when the connection is nothing more than scrambled typing into the chat window where they need to jump (and hope they make it) and praying they see our OB request and don't drop it on our heads 4 mins later...that is one sh*tty connection. I'm still waiting for the moment the was shown in the trailer back in 2011. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 268	Posted - 2014.01.28 02:56:00 - [36] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Just discovered today and seriously, bump. This should have come in before FW. FW should have been run with this level of communication in mind considering the cluster-f@ck communicating with eve pilots is now. You would think, right? It's kind of sad That I can't effectively talk to my team. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 272	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:05:00 - [37] - Quote Kierkegaard Soren wrote: I never played MAG, sadly. It sounded excellent, exactly my kind of fps. Your idea for better comms sounds really solid, but I wonder if a Dust is...sophisticated in terms of code to support such a multi layered system. We struggle making the current one work as intended as is. Otherwise, +1. Hope this gets mentioned in the new biweekly feedback thread we have. I have no knowledge of programming, but I suspect a complete reprogramming of the comms might be in order. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 274	Posted - 2014.01.29 05:46:00 - [38] - Quote In honor of the now disconnected MAG severs, I'm bumping this. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 279	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:42:00 - [39] - Quote Nemo Nauticlone wrote: As my Corp is one of the MAG veterans (shout out to all the guys out there who made to voyage to New Eden) we talk, and have talked about MAG chat off and on since uprising's launch. I cannot agree more with this idea becoming a reality. NCM is a proponent of MAG styled comms coming to New Eden. +1 to this thread from the Corp. It's pretty hard to find someone who wouldn't want this. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 284	Posted - 2014.01.31 14:16:00 - [40] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Well good to see i found a good topic others agree on. Kudos to the orginal post maker....and lets start a new trend this one guy said already...... CCP read the first post Ill bump this everyday till you reply thank you ...and others dont just read post up...its how u can be seen by devs, dont be a viewer be a poster...lol...i dont know what im talking about :-) .... just post gosh darn you It would be much appreciated. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--

Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 297	Posted - 2014.02.03 06:04:00 - [41] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Well good to see i found a good topic others agree on. Kudos to the orginal post maker....and lets start a new trend this one guy said already...... CCP read the first post Ill bump this everyday till you reply thank you ...and others dont just read post up...its how u can be seen by devs, dont be a viewer be a poster...lol...i dont know what im talking about :-) .... just post gosh darn you Nice speech. You have my vote (like). My attempt at speech writing is horrible. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 298	Posted - 2014.02.03 15:51:00 - [42] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: EDIT: And to the people who like this, please post. It's hard to keep a thread up top when everyone agrees with each other. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 300	Posted - 2014.02.03 19:00:00 - [43] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Tl:dr Some kind of additional hierarchy is needed. Better integrated team chat and a unified leader are important. Gives us 30 seconds in the war barge to vote for a supreme leader for a match. Let e supreme leader be able to issue more than one command at a time ( only one defense, but multiple rally and attack orders. Hehe, I put a TL:DR at the end. Quote: TL;DR The comms in Dust suck, implement a command structured comms system It was random in MAG for people who wanted leadership. You had the option of setting up what leadership position you wanted before being put into queue. Ex: [X] SL [_] PL [X] OIC With this^ set up, it was impossible for you to be picked as PL, but there's a chance you'll be given leadership in OIC or SL positions. You were also more likely to be in a leadership position if you had a mic. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 301	Posted - 2014.02.03 19:34:00 - [44] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN. It's impossible to get relevant data out and relevant in as is. Communication is key in any organized group. Though if EVE comms are any indication of the future, this won't be happening lol. +1 What's it like in EVE? The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 305	Posted - 2014.02.03 22:03:00 - [45] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Tebu Gan wrote: THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN. It's impossible to get relevant data out and relevant in as is. Communication is key in any organized group. Though if EVE comms are any indication of the future, this won't be happening lol. +1 What's it like in EVE? Eh not sure, but I fleeted up and they were big on teamspeak. I was like, why don't you use EVE comms. They said no EVE comms are ****** and don't work, apparently ever. I said they are working and I use them, and he seemed surprised. He was like, oh they must have finally fixed them again. But he acted like they were a lasting problem. Besides, on a PC, why not just use team speak anyways. I'm pretty sure comms work just like they do in dust. There is no tiered communication that I know of. It all hinges on everyone remaining quiet. It just seems, implementing comms isn't a CCP strong point is all. Remaining quiet in a fps is a non-option because of the varied routes taken. I hope you're wrong about that last sentence. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 307	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:41:00 - [46] - Quote On a different note, needing TeamSpeak (the third party thing) in a console game is ridiculous. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 307	Posted - 2014.02.04 23:35:00 - [47] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikxc0aMZVXk The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 317	Posted - 2014.02.05 19:01:00 - [48] - Quote maka rax wrote: So damn important! The other day I just wanted to tell the FOXTROT to deploy out of my dropship but he just sat there literally pissing [bullets] in the wind... Proxy chat - you fail CCP for not already being finished. (and you've already failed for a near decade on EVE voice...CAN YOU HEAR US?!) That's sure encouraging. :( The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 327	Posted - 2014.02.07 21:21:00 - [49] - Quote Try to make out a conversation, I dare you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJQ4kPLQv8 The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 338	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:25:00 - [50] - Quote So many voices! http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/archive/b/b5/20120914120348!Exploding-head.gif The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--

Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 338	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:57:00 - [51] - Quote General12912 wrote: with the upcoming cloaking device, a prox chat would be neat. lets say the enemy is planning something, and a scout is hiding with his cloaking device acivated and he overhears their next move. (like flanking objective A, for exmple) he can then proceed to warn bis teammates via team chat. a call out system would be nice too or some kind of communication system used to speam with the AI units in the star wars battlefront series. any players within a close range could hear you, and it could be pretty useful for speaking with people outside of you squad. its possible you may not really even need voice chat (though it would still be far more effective) Again, I only *want* proxy chat to have the ability to talk to enemies, but we don't need it. Some people think it will harm the game for whatever reason. But we do need to be able to talk to blue-dots without going to the team channel. I need proxy chat for this. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 346	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:02:00 - [52] - Quote General12912 wrote: lol. wow. yea, that would be sort of embarrassing. It was so fun though. I remember a red-dot *****'n because I knifed him at the edge of my knife range thinking I couldn't hear him. I told him he probably did terrible to switch nervously responded "ah.....shut up." He went like 7/16 in a half hour game with 256 players. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 348	Posted - 2014.02.11 22:21:00 - [53] - Quote Skihids wrote: DUST is supposed to be team oriented, and effective communication is ABSOLUTELY VITAL to teamwork. So why are we two years in with crappy coms? Good question. Same question applies to Battlefield. The comms are terrible. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 353	Posted - 2014.02.13 20:21:00 - [54] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Try to make out a conversation, I dare you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJQ4kPLQv8 The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 361	Posted - 2014.03.03 03:25:00 - [55] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Try to make out a conversation, I dare you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJQ4kPLQv8 The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 376	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:40:00 - [56] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Try to make out a conversation, I dare you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJQ4kPLQv8 The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 383	Posted - 2014.04.01 02:02:00 - [57] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: +1 The-Errorist wrote: The thread needs a new name, maybe if it seems like a new thread, CCP might take a look at it and maybe even reply. Yes its not only MAG that uses this kind of communication arrangement. A lot of fps are doing it this way. Mentioning MAG in the thread name is like telling CCP to copy a other game. If they don't want to give us proxy ok but the soldier/squad leader /team leader arrangement is good enough for me. What other games are there? I'll add it to the OP. Oh, And I changed the title. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 384	Posted - 2014.04.01 13:16:00 - [58] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: PS2 Bah! I should have known. Could I get details please? The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 384	Posted - 2014.04.01 23:47:00 - [59] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: In ps2 soldies can switch comms from squad to proximity. a simple soldiers hears all the time proximity and squad chat. He can be heard in squad chat. a squad leader hears all the time proximity, squad chat and platoon chat. He can be heard in squad chat and platoon chat. a platoon leader is the master voice everyone can hear him in squad chats. He can hear only in his squad and the platoon chat. all of them can speak out in proximity by pressing a button. sorry for my bad english its my 3rd language. No worries. The grammar is good enough to read. Could I also get a break down of all the individuals per squad? And is there no OIC or higher rank than platoon leader in PS2? The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 384	Posted - 2014.04.03 03:54:00 - [60] - Quote Ehhh, I don't know if I like having 69 likes on this post or not. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--

Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 384	Posted - 2014.04.03 14:02:00 - [61] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Could I also get a break down of all the individuals per squad? And is there no OIC or higher rank than platoon leader in PS2? A squad has 12 members and a platoon has 4 squads. Twelve seems like too many people in one room to me. And is there really only higher rank than platoon leader? The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 386	Posted - 2014.04.04 01:13:00 - [62] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Odigos Ellinas wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Could I also get a break down of all the individuals per squad? And is there no OIC or higher rank than platoon leader in PS2? A squad has 12 members and a platoon has 4 squads. Twelve seems like too many people in one room to me. And is there really only higher rank than platoon leader? Its a open map game so no redline or anything a huge content to fight (in my opinion a big mess). My brother is playing this game and told me they have NPC generals but in the next patch there will be player generals as well. How does the NPC generals work? The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 386	Posted - 2014.04.06 22:44:00 - [63] - Quote Was in a PC match yesterday where every minute the ground commander had to say "clear comms" in order to get a message out. The same thing happen the day before that. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 402	Posted - 2014.04.25 16:08:00 - [64] - Quote mordiby wrote: Being a MAG player, I always wondered when this was going to be implemented here. I feel largely ignored. The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--

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