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Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2807	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:59:00 - [1] - Quote Dirty Amarr using the beautiful beast that is the HMG. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 962	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:02:00 - [2] - Quote We need all things Heavy tbh... 1.8 should be entitled "A Heavy Patch" And just smother Heavies with love My forum forge gun has a 1000% damage bonus against stupid posts
T'orq DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:02:00 - [3] - Quote I agree but I think I want th commando =)
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 149	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:03:00 - [4] - Quote I agree. And it would have either a damage bonus or an over-heat delay bonus for the HMG... ;)
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2807	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:04:00 - [5] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: We need all things scout tbh... 1.8 should be entitled "A Scout Patch" And just smother Scouts with love Fixed Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 318	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:30:00 - [6] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Dirty Amarr using the beautiful beast that is the HMG. You can have your shabby duct tape heavy when we get our heavy laser (i.e. never) How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2815	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:30:00 - [7] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Dirty Amarr using the beautiful beast that is the HMG. You can have your shabby duct tape heavy when we get our heavy laser (i.e. never) Fair trade, why would I want a gun that kills me anyway? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Cosgar ParagonX 8388	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:36:00 - [8] - Quote Minmatar heavy is going to be epic: 200shields 300 armor 25 HP/s recharge rate 7s delay 14s depleted delay (can't be all good) 4 highs 2 lows 5.9 m/s movement 6.9 m/s sprint I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 498	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:37:00 - [9] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Minmatar heavy is going to be epic: 200shields 300 armor 25 HP/s recharge rate 7s delay 14s depleted delay (can't be all good) 4 highs 2 lows 5.9 m/s movement 6.9 m/s sprint Stop playing with my expectations
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5814	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:38:00 - [10] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: We need all things Heavy tbh... 1.8 should be entitled "A Heavy Patch" And just smother Heavies with love Scouts first. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.

jamstar saa187 the third day Public Disorder. 60	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:39:00 - [11] - Quote read somewhere that the Dev team are further along with the Scout variants than the Heavy racials. so don't hold your breath for 1.8 to make the situation better for us. when they do come i hope to have about 2M SP in reserve to invest, id suggest others do the same to maximize the day 1 effect when they drop.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1610	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:40:00 - [12] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: We need all things scout tbh... 1.8 should be entitled "COD 514" And just smother Medium Frames with love Fixed FTFY Again I mean we all know it's gonna happen. Might as well just save some time. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1610	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:42:00 - [13] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Dirty Amarr using the beautiful beast that is the HMG. You can have your shabby duct tape heavy when we get our heavy laser (i.e. never) Sucks not having a worthless Amarr weapon doesn't it. Karma has a funny way of working huh? My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1610	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:46:00 - [14] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: We need all things Heavy tbh... 1.8 should be entitled "A Heavy Patch" And just smother Heavies with love Scouts first. No. We cannot prioritize one role over the other. That creates a tension between the two communities. We want to make heavies and scouts friends with each other. What we don't want is creating a relationship similar to the HAV/AV communities. Both classes need to be fixed. And both classes should be fixed at the same time. Scouts deserve no more love than the Heavy does. (To be fair though, they both need lots of love) My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 501	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:50:00 - [15] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Minmatar heavy is going to be epic: 5.9 m/s movement 6.9 m/s sprint I'm sure you meant 4.9 m/s though I doubt it will be that high, 4.2 m/s - 4.7 m/s
Cosgar ParagonX 8393	Posted - 2013.12.05 21:56:00 - [16] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Cosgar wrote: Minmatar heavy is going to be epic: 5.9 m/s movement 6.9 m/s sprint I'm sure you meant 4.9 m/s though I doubt it will be that high, 4.2 m/s - 4.7 m/s Yeah, I meant 4.9. It'll probably be in the 4.7-4.9 range since Minmatar are crazy fast. Logi is as fast as a Caldari assault and the assault is almost as fast as a scout. It's going to have the lowest HP ceiling compared to other heavies, but it's going to be able to close in on a medium frame like Albert Haynsworth closing in on a rack of BBQ ribs. This is probably the reason why the HMG took such a range hit. CCP seems to like balancing for stuff still on the drawing board. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 399	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:01:00 - [17] - Quote These are the potential stats of the missing heavies (courtesy of math and logi bro). The Minmatar Heavy may be: 400 Shields 360 Armor 4.0 Movement Speed 5.6 Run Speed 110 Stamina 12.5 /s Stamina Regen. Which, if the math is anywhere in the realm of accurate, the Minmatar heavy will be beastly. Especially if they get a bonus to the HMG (provided the HMG gets fixed).
Terram Nenokal Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 243	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:02:00 - [18] - Quote Forever saving my SP for the Gallente heavy... Minnie would be cool too, I guess.
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 955	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:03:00 - [19] - Quote Plasma Flamethrower will make quick work of any heavy.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 776	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:07:00 - [20] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Dirty Amarr using the beautiful beast that is the HMG. You're quite the busy little Minja these last few days lol YES! Bring In The HEAVITARS! Fix TTK!!! MATARI PRIDE!!! Tears For Our Dearly Departed ReGnYuM. May He One Day Return To Shoot Us All In The Face...

Cosgar ParagonX 8393	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:11:00 - [21] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: These are the potential stats of the missing heavies (courtesy of math and logi bro). The Minmatar Heavy may be: 400 Shields 360 Armor 4.0 Movement Speed 5.6 Run Speed 110 Stamina 12.5 /s Stamina Regen. Which, if the math is anywhere in the realm of accurate, the Minmatar heavy will be beastly. Especially if they get a bonus to the HMG (provided the HMG gets fixed). Seems like you posted the Caldari heavy on accident. Minmatar design usually lacks sufficient base HP in shields and/or armor but makes up for it with more module slots. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
True Adamance Fatal Absolution 4563	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:13:00 - [22] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Dirty Amarr using the beautiful beast that is the HMG. We need an Arc Cannon so we don't sully our hands with you trash can fire arms...... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 399	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:21:00 - [23] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Seems like you posted the Caldari heavy on accident. Minmatar design usually lacks sufficient base HP in shields and/or armor but makes up for it with more module slots. No, I double checked. Here are the stats from Logi Bro's post: Logi Bro wrote: ... Amarr Heavy- 480 shields, 480 armor Gallente Heavy- 320 shields, 560 armor Caldari Heavy- 560 shields, 320 armor Minmatar Heavy- 400 shields, 360 armor ... Amarr Heavy- 3.6/5.1 speed and 125 stamina Gallente- 3.75/5.3 speed and 100 stamina Caldari- 3.75/5.3 speed and 100 stamina MInmatar- 4/5.6 speed and 110 stamina ... Snipped out the explanations If you have issues with Logi Bro's math and reasoning, well, feel free to do some of your own. I did my own number crunching a while back, and came up with similar numbers.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1216	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:31:00 - [24] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Seems like you posted the Caldari heavy on accident. Minmatar design usually lacks sufficient base HP in shields and/or armor but makes up for it with more module slots. You're thinking of the old Amarr Heavy HP amounts, Cosgar. The numbers he posted are definitely a "sufficient lack of base HP" compared to the current suit. ED: Also, 1.8 will give us new Scout suits, almost positive. CCP said they were pretty far along. I'll offer a gentleman's wager of 100 ISK that we won't see a damn thing for Heavy in the patch, though. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 200/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Cosgar ParagonX 8396	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:34:00 - [25] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Cosgar wrote: Seems like you posted the Caldari heavy on accident. Minmatar design usually lacks sufficient base HP in shields and/or armor but makes up for it with more module slots. You're thinking of the old Amarr Heavy HP amounts, Cosgar. The numbers he posted are definitely a "sufficient lack of base HP" compared to the current suit. ED: Also, 1.8 will give us new Scout suits, almost positive. CCP said they were pretty far along. I'll offer a gentleman's wage of 100 ISK that we won't see a damn thing for Heavy in the patch, though. If that's going to be the Minmatar heavy, I wouldn't spec into it. Way too slow for my tastes. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Akdhar Saif Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 88	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:38:00 - [26] - Quote CYBORG GORILLA INCOMING!!
Joel II X Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 276	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:45:00 - [27] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: We need all things scout tbh... 1.8 should be entitled "A Scout Patch" And just smother Scouts with love Fixed Was about to write the same thing.
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 501	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:13:00 - [28] - Quote I would have thought 4.2 m/s for Basic / Sentinel and 4.6 m/s for Commando Gallente looks like best of bunch given how their slots usually are. Minny's are going to need love across the board but what else is new.
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 202	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:17:00 - [29] - Quote I think Caldari heavy will be mean. It's gonna be fast and alot of shields it will be hard to kill it especially if he runs shield regulators, the true hit and run heavy. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Llast 326 An Arkhos 683	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:19:00 - [30] - Quote T'orq wrote: I agree but I think I want th commando =) Massdriver/Combat Rifle I shot a man in Black Rise onceGÇª Just to watch him die

Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1360	Posted - 2013.12.06 05:46:00 - [31] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Dirty Amarr using the beautiful beast that is the HMG. You like the HMG so much well you can have it! i hope they make a minimatar heavy so you can have that piece of sh*t maybe the amarr heavies will get a new half decent heavy weapon in it's place. Amarr Dual tanking is a sin Listen when playing dust for 25% KDR improvement
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2835	Posted - 2013.12.06 05:50:00 - [32] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Dirty Amarr using the beautiful beast that is the HMG. You like the HMG so much well you can have it! i hope they make a minimatar heavy so you can have that piece of sht maybe the amarr heavies will get a new half decent heavy weapon in it's place. I fully expect the weapon to be fixed just before the Matari heavy is released, which is kinda sad in it's own way, Then I shalt have both the fat and skinny in my arsenal. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja* Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 574	Posted - 2013.12.06 05:53:00 - [33] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: We need all things Heavy tbh... 1.8 should be entitled "A Heavy Patch" And just smother Heavies with love Heh looks at scout suit He- ohh.... Host of Zilla's Games! The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3282	Posted - 2013.12.06 05:54:00 - [34] - Quote We need a lot of things.
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 626	Posted - 2013.12.06 05:55:00 - [35] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Minmatar heavy is going to be epic: 200shields 300 armor 25 HP/s recharge rate 7s delay 14s depleted delay (can't be all good) 4 highs 2 lows 5.9 m/s movement 6.9 m/s sprint FUUUCK YAH! Ooo-rah baby, ooo-rah! Munch Dedicated Sniper. Minmatar Patriot.
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 234	Posted - 2013.12.06 06:10:00 - [36] - Quote My money is on the Easter patch for when we see all the suits
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 630	Posted - 2013.12.06 15:40:00 - [37] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: My money is on the Easter patch for when we see all the suits What year? Munch Dedicated Sniper. Minmatar Patriot.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2893	Posted - 2013.12.08 06:56:00 - [38] - Quote just saying. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
negative49er Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 373	Posted - 2013.12.08 13:19:00 - [39] - Quote "Ah!! I being chase by a fat man" Is what i going to be saying when it come out One day my shotgun will run out ammo 1.7 is the day if I fight or i give up
Cpl Foster USMC Just Me...No Corp... 331	Posted - 2013.12.08 15:33:00 - [40] - Quote hells yeah..... I don't care who wins...I'm just here for the killin'...

Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1140	Posted - 2013.12.08 15:39:00 - [41] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Minmatar heavy is going to be epic: 200shields 300 armor 25 HP/s recharge rate 7s delay 14s depleted delay (can't be all good) 4 highs 2 lows 5.9 m/s movement (Try 4.5) 6.9 m/s sprint (6 maybe?) We can't have the heavy go too fast. It should go faster than the other heavies, but not faster than its mid-frame brethren. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Level 1 Forum Warrior The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 560	Posted - 2013.12.08 15:42:00 - [42] - Quote Agreed. Also having to pit heavies vs heavies in 1.7 FW is silly. Essentially suit vs gun in direct conflict with each other. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Thorn Badblood Dust2Dust. Top Men. 87	Posted - 2013.12.08 15:43:00 - [43] - Quote To all the 'scouts first': I see way more scouts than heavies playing, Heavies first. D2D. A Non-Prophet Organization
Mad Mav Brotherhood of the Commissioned General Tso's Alliance 246	Posted - 2013.12.08 15:50:00 - [44] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Minmatar heavy is going to be epic: 200shields 300 armor 25 HP/s recharge rate 7s delay 14s depleted delay (can't be all good) 4 highs 2 lows 5.9 m/s movement 6.9 m/s sprint I pee'd a little Si vis pacem, para bellum.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 967	Posted - 2013.12.08 18:29:00 - [45] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: We need all things scout tbh... 1.8 should be entitled "A Scout Patch" And just smother Scouts with love Fixed Your guy's suit may suck as much as Heavy, but you do have one more suit than we do and a few more options in terms of weaponry... Better yet, why not just make it the "Skinny and Fat" patch and smother BOTH with love? Oh wait... CCP is bad at delivering what they promised... My forum forge gun has a 1000% damage bonus against stupid posts
Cosgar ParagonX 8496	Posted - 2013.12.08 18:58:00 - [46] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Minmatar heavy is going to be epic: 200shields 300 armor 25 HP/s recharge rate 7s delay 14s depleted delay (can't be all good) 4 highs 2 lows 5.9 m/s movement (Try 4.5) 6.9 m/s sprint (6 maybe?) We can't have the heavy go too fast. It should go faster than the other heavies, but not faster than its mid-frame brethren. Movement was meant to be 4.9m/s. I'll edit when I get home. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Stevez WingYip Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 72	Posted - 2013.12.08 19:10:00 - [47] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: We need all things Heavy tbh... 1.8 should be entitled "A Heavy Patch" And just smother Heavies with love I have been waiting and wanting the Minmatar heavy suit for sooooo long.


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