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Levi McDaniel
Brimstone Tactical Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.05 06:34:00 -
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You're all to busy nagging about how you are horrible at tactics, can't look at the map and find easy to strike objectives or where the enemy is, or how your enemy is beating you with the same things available to you.
What this really translates to is you've all invested your skills for the most part in one or two classes and if something starts beating your class you complain.
meanwhile eve and dust aren't getting any closer (pc 2.0 warbarge i'm not entirely confident about EVE players who want to fly one into lowsec only to have it blown up, nor do most dust players have eve players with the skills to fly one.) |
LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2013.12.05 06:37:00 -
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Frigates can drop OBs i believe...
The biggest threat to my scout is everything.
My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
955
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Posted - 2013.12.05 06:37:00 -
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Levi McDaniel wrote:You're all to busy nagging about how you are horrible at tactics, can't look at the map and find easy to strike objectives or where the enemy is, or how your enemy is beating you with the same things available to you.
What this really translates to is you've all invested your skills for the most part in one or two classes and if something starts beating your class you complain.
meanwhile eve and dust aren't getting any closer (pc 2.0 warbarge i'm not entirely confident about EVE players who want to fly one into lowsec only to have it blown up, nor do most dust players have eve players with the skills to fly one.)
did you read the patch notes? I get killmails next week! |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
955
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Posted - 2013.12.05 06:38:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Frigates can drop OBs i believe...
anything with turrets. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2786
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Posted - 2013.12.05 06:40:00 -
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low genius wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Frigates can drop OBs i believe... anything with small turrets. Fixed.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 2
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Levi McDaniel
Brimstone Tactical Covert Intervention
63
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Posted - 2013.12.05 06:41:00 -
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yeah I guess you guys missed the part in eve vegas where clones will be transported by eve players :/ |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2786
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Posted - 2013.12.05 06:42:00 -
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Levi McDaniel wrote:yeah I guess you guys missed the part in eve vegas where clones will be transported by eve players :/ Soon(tm)
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 2
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5595
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Posted - 2013.12.05 07:12:00 -
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Levi McDaniel wrote:yeah I guess you guys missed the part in eve vegas where clones will be transported by eve players :/
Yeah I guess you missed the part in Eve Vegas where CCP said that comes later on in development. Soon, basically.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
380
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Posted - 2013.12.05 07:14:00 -
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Sausages are always better linked.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Tch Tch
Red Shirts Away Team
42
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Posted - 2013.12.05 07:18:00 -
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Anything can carry small turrets if they want. Even an Indy.
Could they all carry the right one? No idea. But if it is aimed at Frigates then destroyers might make the best choice as they can be packed with eight of them. So if special turrets and not just ammo is required they have spare capacity in spades.
Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.12.05 07:41:00 -
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Levi McDaniel wrote:pc 2.0 warbarge i'm not entirely confident about EVE players who want to fly one into lowsec only to have it blown up, nor do most dust players have eve players with the skills to fly one.
I don't think this is true at all. For one, I would imagine ISK is more than enough to bring out some solid Eve support. Also, there are plenty of people in Eve for the sole purpose of being able to OB for their Corp in Dust. I started off in Dust, and I was hoping to be able to drop some bombs over Baghdad myself (unfortunately my PC can't handle much beyond simple security missions). Whether it's a Dust based Eve Corp, an Eve based Dust Corp, or an Eve Corp running protection/OBing, I think the 1.7 OB changes will work. We will find out soon enough.
Im an 80s guy, friendship to me means for 2 bucks id beat you with a pool cue till you got detached retinas.
Futurama
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Levi McDaniel
Brimstone Tactical Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:47:00 -
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I'm more interested in pc 2.0
And I am well aware of how soon soon(tm) is. I'm just not certain a warbarge flown by eve players is the best idea |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
4016
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Posted - 2013.12.08 02:04:00 -
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Levi McDaniel wrote:You're all to busy nagging about how you are horrible at tactics, can't look at the map and find easy to strike objectives or where the enemy is, or how your enemy is beating you with the same things available to you.
What this really translates to is you've all invested your skills for the most part in one or two classes and if something starts beating your class you complain.
meanwhile eve and dust aren't getting any closer (pc 2.0 warbarge i'm not entirely confident about EVE players who want to fly one into lowsec only to have it blown up, nor do most dust players have eve players with the skills to fly one.) Hell, I'm skilling up for a War Barge right now.
I fly with BRAVE. Losing ships doesn't worry us as much.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
796
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Posted - 2013.12.08 03:21:00 -
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So, why can't dust touch EvE without getting its cooties all over it.
simple, money. the Icelandic krona (ISK) to be exact.
any basic EvE pilot can make mmh call it 25 million isk an hour. with multiple toons it is pretty easy to get 100+ million isk an hour on a good day in null sec. where as a dust bunny makes roughly 1 million isk an hour (200k x 15min per match). this wealth disparity isn't necessarily bad. after all it wouldn't make much sense to have HAVs costing the same amount as battleships(tanks are battleship equivalents in eve, this is why they had black ops and marauder variants).
many of you are thinking great, great they make more money than us whoop dee doo, why does this stop CCP from integrating us with eve again? well, a lot actually nothing you can have, can hold any value to an eve pilot whatsoever. why? because if it is valuable they will want it and have no means of buying it. there is no eve dust isk transfer so in order to "purchase" anything valuable from dust, you need a pocket dust corp.
lets say, null corp A owns the districts in the systems it rents, they are a small indie corp of about 50 active players. so these few players don't have a pocket dust corp and dust integration is a fairly new Idea so the alliance they are renting from doesn't either. a hostile alliance attacks them, no problem, they are a fairly wealthy corporation, I mean really what do ringers go for these days 10 mill a pop? pocket change to a corp that can pull 700 mill an hour on a bad day. so corp A has hired the best mercs around because they can pay quantities of isk that give dust bunnies wet dreams. as a result the price of mercenarys skyrockets and floods dust markets with isk that has no earthly right to be there. proto-stomping happens endlessly and drives new players away while older players simply leave out of boredom or for new games, dust dies a slow, slow death.
okay, that ended badly. lets try again, same scenario. without a pocket dust corp and no eve dust isk transfer the renter corp loses the districts on it's planets and slow so do everyone else in the allience because they have no way to fight an enemy they can't touch. dust player base stays small but the mega corporations expand in pc to ludicrous sizes. eve capsuleers unable to stand in the way of the dust bunny expansion lose all the districts on their planets. dust corps rake in obscene amounts of isk from clone sales flooding the market with isk. you see where this is going...
nobody wanted molden heath, it was no good for FW and it was in low sec which is far to unstable for anything to happen in space except pvp. the rats aren't big enough to be worth the risk and the rocks aren't valuable enough to mine, so all that happens is pvp. all the district held there are worth nothing to capsuleers because only a brave few live in low sec full time. that is why you(we) can have it
I have toon living in both high sec and null. the null sec toon is my indie toon. none of my toons are with SVER, PD, or associated corps.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4510
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Posted - 2013.12.08 03:25:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:low genius wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Frigates can drop OBs i believe... anything with small turrets. Fixed. If you can fit medium/large/XL turrets, you can fit small turrets.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
2110
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Posted - 2013.12.08 03:32:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:low genius wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Frigates can drop OBs i believe... anything with small turrets. Fixed. If you can fit medium/large/XL turrets, you can fit small turrets. even my orca?
GǃWhy do toasters have a burn your toast to a crisp that no one would eat setting?" -Draxus Prime
Closed Beta Vet
Minja
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4510
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Posted - 2013.12.08 03:34:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:low genius wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Frigates can drop OBs i believe... anything with small turrets. Fixed. If you can fit medium/large/XL turrets, you can fit small turrets. even my orca? Can it fits turrets?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
797
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Posted - 2013.12.08 03:50:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:low genius wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Frigates can drop OBs i believe... anything with small turrets. Fixed. If you can fit medium/large/XL turrets, you can fit small turrets. even my orca? no... not your orca. it has no hard points. however all titans, dreads, can. also if you're looking for dumb stuff to use for OB support, the Etana is a good choice.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1298
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Posted - 2013.12.08 04:49:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Frigates can drop OBs i believe...
Any small weapon system except missiles.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:34:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1588630#post1588630
Solution to the current orbital situation. |
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