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KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2739	Posted - 2013.12.05 02:54:00 - [1] - Quote Hi Dust Community! We are still here because we are some kind of greedy masochists that can take a LOT of pain. But as it is after 1.7 i still think we are humoring CCP a little too much. They Keep Buffing Medium Frames and Armors and rifles ,and keep spitting on Heavies and Scouts...Commandos came out and sucked b@lls, they got a little HP buff that DID somewhat helped by its not surprise that the suit is still worthless. Now we have The HEAVIES/Sentinels: GÖªHMG is a very underwhelming weapon with negativley broken mechanics and little gain of use. Broken for some months. CCP knows about this . STATUS = STILL BROKEN/UP. So bad Heavies do better with a MLT AR. I hope i was kidding... GÖªForge Gun: Now confirmed NERFED, i can admit im not too unhappy with this NERF because it has taken the EYES away from the FG a little. But we got a AV weapon that has already its effectivness vs Infantry greatly nerfed,but now it has a new Damage nerf that sureley will affect its preformance vs vehicles Sure Everyone SAYS they are happy (IMO I AM) but as soon as new Vehicle drivers get hit from 300mts away then the QQ will start again. Knowing CCP, The FG/HEAVY migh get yet another nerf.... STATUS= NERFED/Still Usefull/Danger of Range Nerf. GÖªThe Heavy Dropsuit (SENTINEL) is still in a very bad state where they only useful as Tanked Rifle users, and still get out preformed by Logis.The new Shield extender Delay penalty will FORCE heavy players to use only Damage mods since they cannot risk having even MORE shield delay. COMMANDO: I dont really have to even elaborate on this suit. Anyone with less than 2-3 months playing Dust that plays only as a commando with a K-D over 0.5 has my respect. GÖªDECENT heavy EHP values GÖªTHE WORST Shield regen per Sec GÖªBAD Shield Recharge delay GÖªLowest slot count GÖªLow CPU/PG numbers that deny the suit to use them with better modules/equipments GÖªSLow GÖªBig & RED GÖªGOOD MELEE VALUES! yay....but 1 Low slot....Denying it from being a Biotics beast, Buu.... I could go on, but i wont. This suit is straight garbage and CCP is really INSULTING us in taking out AUR versions of this. Anyone spending money on a COMMANDO Ak.0 should freakn write a ticket to CPP and request your AUR back, lol... SCOUTS Straight and simple: GÖªIf you use Knives, Mk.0 GÖªIf you want to still use a Scout, BUT NOT KNIVES, then you must go GK.0 GÖªIf you want to play seriously vs good corps and stuff, you must avoid this dropsuit type. TBQH , the Gal scout does not suffer at PROTO LEVEL so much from the Shield delay penalty. But with no Buffs in sight, New RIFLES, Rifle users now have a Rifle for every situation! CQ-MED: Duvolle AR Med Ranges:Imperial + Combat Rifle Med-Long Range: Rail Rifle - Laser Rifle. All this while shotguns (with THE WORST OPTIMAL RANGE EVER) still cant register full damage at 1mts. Then, not only Armor gets BETTER HP values and LESS Speed penalties, but now Shields get Nerfed. (For those who dont know, Increases Shield depleted charge delay) Im not sure what numbers were CCP looking at,but Shield tankers BARELY made a living in 1.6. Scouts; unless they are Gk.0 Armor tanked, need to be exceedingly Skilled to get a 2-3 K-d ratio game, thing a STD MED frame can achieve consistently with similar gun-game but better results. People , specially armor tankers are deluded and lie to themselves. BROS = THERE IS A REASON THERE ARE CALDARI ASSAULTS WITH MORE ARMOR THAN SHIELDS.... And on top of it,Armor being the FOTM, we have MEdium Frame suits with Innate ARMOR REPAIR! , so with only 1 Complex armor repairer = 1 LOW SLOT, you can get a very decent 10+ Armor rep rate per sec. I hear these suits can also carry Nanohives to repair your armor if needed PLUS Scout killer Equipment Active Scanners. And they have exceedingly broken CPU-PG values letting you fit them and shape them into whatever you'd like! (Probably an Armored Killer) Tankers have had already pretty rough times, now with this vehicle ''REBALANCE '' it seems they might have more issues ahead. No : im NOT AGAINST the vehicle rebalance and i cant really comment on it until i see AV vs Tank action on the field,. but one thing really annoys me. THE FACT , ammo is NOT ONLY LIMITED, Slots were REDUCED, but in order to have MORE ammo you must use one of these SLOTS. WTH? who thought of this? Shouldnt it just be a PASSIVE SKILL same as infantry has? SO, HEavies, Scouts , commandos, even ASSAULTs (except amarr, those suits are awesome)...TANKERS! vehicle drivers.... What are you still doing with your SP? What are you waiting? We already waited TOO long , but nothing has changed. Scouts get nerf after nerf , same as heavys. Sure they got an HP buff but a nerf to their only other weapon while no buffs to their HMG, AND NO NEW CONTENT IN SIGHT. Scouts will suffer the day they see Pilot Suits comming BEFORE the Amarr and Caldari scout... Commandos Ruin the day they spent SP on the Red Useless Giant that gets out preformed by a LAND SLIDE, by a 200HP , CCP gifted Black Eagle scout....WITH STD WEAPONS.... I mean when you get our preformed by a scout you know something is seriously wrong. We ALL want to enjoy this game right? GET YOUR LOGI SUIT TODAY! Dont HUMOR CCP anylonger. They want a GAME that has DIVERSITY!? they need to earn it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Welcome to, ArmoredMed514<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 269	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:09:00 - [2] - Quote Thank you I haven't read it yet but thank you. I agree with mostly everything you wrote I guess there is a first time for everything. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
castba Penguin's March 225	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:15:00 - [3] - Quote Even though my beloved forge will be nerfed and my burst hmg shoots spit balls, I will continue to play heavy with heavy weapons. Stubborn as hell, what can I say. I Support SP Rollover
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 570	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:15:00 - [4] - Quote +1 But the scout section was way lacking... Host of Zilla's Games! The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2744	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:16:00 - [5] - Quote hackerzilla wrote: +1 But the scout section was way lacking... Im on constant editing. Dont worry. WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 570	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:18:00 - [6] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: hackerzilla wrote: +1 But the scout section was way lacking... Im on constant editing. Dont worry. Oh yeah don't forget that the Cal assault outclasses all other assaults, (except Ammar if it has a scrambler with damage mods) Host of Zilla's Games! The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2745	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:20:00 - [7] - Quote hackerzilla wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: hackerzilla wrote: +1 But the scout section was way lacking... Im on constant editing. Dont worry. Oh yeah don't forget that the Cal assault outclasses all other assaults, (except Ammar if it has a scrambler with damage mods) The Fact the Cal Logi Outclasses The CAl Assault makes the Cal Assault Outclassing other Assaults POINTLESS> BTW , i figured out i wouldnt put more into SCOUTs section because: 1-IMO they are NOT a Viable option anymore.Useless.Everybody already KNOWS why.... 2-I cant write anymore in taht post and i forgot to reserve the 1st post below it, ANYWAYS, i think i made my point. BTW Welcome Hackerzilla.... WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 362	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:20:00 - [8] - Quote Let me guess you want a respec. With all of these changes. Hiring ringers is called multilateralism. Multilateralism is a good thing ,it saves lives.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8353	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:21:00 - [9] - Quote QQ 1.7 = Vehicle rebalance patch 1.8 = Probably dropsuit balance patch Chill your biscuits Win ISK / Vids / O7
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 38	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:21:00 - [10] - Quote I've seen plenty of effective heavies. Right after they hit me with their sniper rifles from up high in the redline. Their swollen beach ball heads the only thing visible. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.

KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2745	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:21:00 - [11] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Let me guess you want a respec. With all of these changes. I DONT REALLY EVEN GIVE A SH ANYMORE BRO.** And im serious..... WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1582	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:22:00 - [12] - Quote As a diehard Derpship/HAV/Heavy HMG user who sadly has enthusiasm for Minni assaults... I admit I'm disappointed in some key issues, but the FG "nerf" was needed considering the rest of AV was cut down to deal with the new lolHAVs. I'm still having fun, just a bit disappointed that for several years now since the start of beta I'm still using the same suit with the same weapon system. Needless to say at least I feel like I'm able to utilize the Heavy HMG far more effectively then most people... and as a result encounter very few issues, the "broken mechanic" has allowed me to blow the heads off of "cutsies" going after my squad, I'm fine with the HMG being super accurate I'm a damned good shot with it anyways even with bunnyhopping shield users or turtle-slow armor stackers... But it sure would be nifty to have a Gallente Heavy Weapon or something new... Anywho, patch 1.7 has a lot of nifty content so it is a huge step in the right direction for the game, just not the steps I'd like first in my biased playstyle. Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2745	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:23:00 - [13] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: QQ 1.7 = Vehicle rebalance patch 1.8 = Probably dropsuit balance patch Chill your biscuits Its NOT QQ> Its ANGRY ADVICE to other players like myself that like playing differently ... IT IS NOT WORTH IT, get a LOGI and start owning. PERIOD. WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Morathi III Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:25:00 - [14] - Quote I simply cant say better great job King checkmate +1
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2745	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:26:00 - [15] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: As a diehard Derpship/HAV/Heavy HMG user who sadly has enthusiasm for Minni assaults... I admit I'm disappointed in some key issues, but the FG "nerf" was needed considering the rest of AV was cut down to deal with the new lolHAVs. I'm still having fun, just a bit disappointed that for several years now since the start of beta I'm still using the same suit with the same weapon system. Well this was a post adressed to players looking to have more FUN in the COMPETITIVE side of Dust514. I mean Sure its very fun just running around in a Scout with R/E commiting suicide. Or a Heavy With Nova Knives , YAAY Or even A SERIOUS SCOUT with SG. But you will never be able to have fun with those if you run in a PC match or in FW without a squad.... WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 39	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:33:00 - [16] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: QQ 1.7 = Vehicle rebalance patch 1.8 = Probably dropsuit balance patch Chill your biscuits Its NOT QQ> Its ANGRY ADVICE to other players like myself that like playing differently ... IT IS NOT WORTH IT, get a LOGI and start owning. PERIOD. I've only been in a single pub match with you and you were wiping out my team. Killed me twice. All I managed to do to you was drop your armour to about 10% in the last minute of the game which helped my team get Bravo. We almost lost the game on objectives but won on a clone withdraw. If you had on logi armour you might not have had to withdraw and we would have lost... I'm sure there will be a new synergy in 1.7 that surpasses Logi's/armour ars and scrs. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2746	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:37:00 - [17] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: QQ 1.7 = Vehicle rebalance patch 1.8 = Probably dropsuit balance patch Chill your biscuits Its NOT QQ> Its ANGRY ADVICE to other players like myself that like playing differently ... IT IS NOT WORTH IT, get a LOGI and start owning. PERIOD. I've only been in a single pub match with you and you were wiping out my team. Killed me twice. All I managed to do to you was drop you armour to about 10% in the last minute of the game which helped my team get Bravo. We almost lost the game on objectives but won on a clone withdraw. If you had on logi armour you might not have had to withdraw and we would have lost... I usually Run a Scout or an Amarr Assault (but not OP armor tanks, actually , mine is a greatly UP Shield tanked/Profile Dampned A/1 Series XD)...Andi try to TRULY avoid taking out my Amarr Logi out unless im getting squad stomped and the team needs someone to lead... (700HP,Cx Dam Mods,Duvolle,ADV A,scanner,Toxin SMG and Compact nanos) But yeah. Considering what you are saying: ITS EXACTLY what im saying. Every suit has it disadvantages. Logis not only have very FEW of these,but have enough Slots and CPU-PG to fix them. WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1583	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:37:00 - [18] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Well this was a post adressed to players looking to have more FUN in the COMPETITIVE side of Dust514. But you will never be able to have fun with those if you run in a PC match or in FW without a squad.... Well lucky for me I don't run FW without a squad, as that's not competitive. I see your point though, there are noticeable "neglected" classes, and then the poorly executed logistical class which causes imbalance. Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2747	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:43:00 - [19] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Well this was a post adressed to players looking to have more FUN in the COMPETITIVE side of Dust514. But you will never be able to have fun with those if you run in a PC match or in FW without a squad.... Well lucky for me I don't run FW without a squad, as that's not competitive. I see your point though, there are noticeable "neglected" classes, and then the poorly executed logistical class which causes imbalance. Agreed. Regarding you squad comment, not so much. a Game that Requires and FORCES players to play with a squad in order to have fun is not a good game. I know Teamplay is supposed to , and it should , be more powerful. But in this game , with the MATCHMAING WE HAVE , Team play is OP. I would understand 10 corp members vs me, 1 dude from Outer heaven, 2 Generals, 1 STB , and 3 Pie Inc. BUT ME and 9 guys with 2 million SP , vs 6 Restless Spirits and 5 Opus Arcana? (2 days ago, got 12-4 while camping an Objective : / ) LOL SCOTTY, LOL.... Team play = Squadstompin = EZ MODE. Not saying its your fault. But its the way it is.... WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 39	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:44:00 - [20] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tch Tch wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: QQ 1.7 = Vehicle rebalance patch 1.8 = Probably dropsuit balance patch Chill your biscuits Its NOT QQ> Its ANGRY ADVICE to other players like myself that like playing differently ... IT IS NOT WORTH IT, get a LOGI and start owning. PERIOD. I've only been in a single pub match with you and you were wiping out my team. Killed me twice. All I managed to do to you was drop you armour to about 10% in the last minute of the game which helped my team get Bravo. We almost lost the game on objectives but won on a clone withdraw. If you had on logi armour you might not have had to withdraw and we would have lost... I usually Run a Scout or an Amarr Assault (but not OP armor tanks, actually , mine is a greatly UP Shield tanked/Profile Dampned A/1 Series XD)...Andi try to TRULY avoid taking out my Amarr Logi out unless im getting squad stomped and the team needs someone to lead... (700HP,Cx Dam Mods,Duvolle,ADV A,scanner,Toxin SMG and Compact nanos) But yeah. Consider what you are saying: ITS EXACTLY what im saying! Every suit has it disadvantages. Logis not only have very FEW of these,but have enough Slots and CPU-PG to fix them. SO WHY KEEP USING SOMETHING ELSE!? CCP Brags they have a game that has DIVERSITY,but this is a FASLE illution. What they have is peopel like me trying to be special,using different roles even if they know they are playing handicapped... Time to stop. When CCP sees 90%+ Of their playerbase are LOGIS, MAYBE they might consider buffing the rest.... : / But my main runs a logi as a logi ie hacking, uplinking and ammo supply. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.

KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2747	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:46:00 - [21] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: But my main runs a logi as a logi ie hacking, uplinking and ammo supply. You know i AM talking about MURDER LOGIS right? (Logi suits modded to be better assaults) Nobody will ever say: OMG LOOK AT THAT OP LOGI! his GIVING AMMO TO A HEAVY OMG NERF! LOL XD WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 414	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:53:00 - [22] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: QQ 1.7 = Vehicle rebalance patch 1.8 = Probably dropsuit balance patch Chill your biscuits Werd.
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 40	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:14:00 - [23] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tch Tch wrote: But my main runs a logi as a logi ie hacking, uplinking and ammo supply. You know i AM talking about MURDER LOGIS right? (Logi suits modded to be better assaults) Nobody will ever say: OMG LOOK AT THAT OP LOGI! his GIVING AMMO TO A HEAVY OMG NERF! LOL XD Based on nerf bat track record which is going to get nerfed? The FOTM will get enhanced and the specialist castrated with a pair of bricks. So I'm looking forward to seeing my logibro singing soprano. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Robocop Junior Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 406	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:26:00 - [24] - Quote Lol when I started playing in July first character I tried was a caldari logi. Week in noticed how easy it was and everyone was caldari. Immediately made a gallente assualt my main eventually turned logi as well two other gallentes on two accounts for passive SP (one scout one heavy) Both alts have a third of my mains SP and better KDRs. Logis may be OP but scouts and heavies aren't as UP as people like to think.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2750	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:44:00 - [25] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Lol when I started playing in July first character I tried was a caldari logi. Week in noticed how easy it was and everyone was caldari. Immediately made a gallente assualt my main eventually turned logi as well two other gallentes on two accounts for passive SP (one scout one heavy) Both alts have a third of my mains SP and better KDRs. Logis may be OP but scouts and heavies aren't as UP as people like to think. You are missing the point, even if they are not as UP as YOU think, Medium frames, specially logis, are Better. Period. When you play competitivly you always want to use the best that you can? am i not right? So why go in a PC match with a 600EHP tanked scout ,or a Profile dampened scout (that will,however be picked up by Proto Focused Scanner) or a Heavy with Boundless HMG when you can get in with a Powerful Rifle, 2+ Complex Damage mods and STILL pack Heavy-like HP , AND Assault like SPeed? PLUS more equipment? there really is no reason... WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4360	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:49:00 - [26] - Quote It's bandwagon time! Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2750	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:50:00 - [27] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: It's bandwagon time! Pretty much WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4360	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:54:00 - [28] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It's bandwagon time! Pretty much Puts KING CHECKMATE on the bandwagon Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2750	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:55:00 - [29] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It's bandwagon time! Pretty much Puts KING CHECKMATE on the bandwagon *Bandwagon leaves to the Closest Gallente Armory Depo to check the latest Gal Logi models* WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4364	Posted - 2013.12.05 05:00:00 - [30] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It's bandwagon time! Pretty much Puts KING CHECKMATE on the bandwagon *Bandwagon leaves to the Closest Gallente Armory Depo to check the latest Gal Logi models* Is there a Gallente Assault there for me maybe? No? ok :( Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.

KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2753	Posted - 2013.12.05 05:03:00 - [31] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It's bandwagon time! Pretty much Puts KING CHECKMATE on the bandwagon *Bandwagon leaves to the Closest Gallente Armory Depo to check the latest Gal Logi models* Is there a Gallente Assault there for me maybe? No? ok :( Might be, but its colored Black and yellow and its a LOT better than the one you are running now.... XD (you see, Logis are like condoms, You buy it and You have True Logis fittings, Murder Logis/Assault Logis,Scout Logis, Tanked logis,etc... so you buy one,fits all,unless you are highly unskilled (or unlucky in the case of the condoms) WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4364	Posted - 2013.12.05 05:06:00 - [32] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Might be, but its colored Black and yellow and its a LOT better than the one you are running now.... XD (you see, Logis are like unisex stuff, You buy it and You have True Logis fittings, Murder Logis/Assault Logis,Scout Logis, Tanked logis,etc... so you buy one,fits all) :( I'll stick with my old black and white model thank you very much. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Robocop Junior Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 406	Posted - 2013.12.05 08:47:00 - [33] - Quote I admire you two, wish I cared that much about this game or what happens in it or to it.
Midas Fool Black Phoenix Mercenaries 237	Posted - 2013.12.05 09:15:00 - [34] - Quote ALL HAIL ALL HAIL ALL HAIL I'm ok with this. I'm getting to this point, too. Don't get me wrong, not going to stop playing, just maybe the way I play... For best results press R1 repeatedly. Consult your doctor if your erection persists for more than four hours.
Rusty Shallows 555	Posted - 2013.12.05 09:41:00 - [35] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: snip GÖªThe Heavy Dropsuit (SENTINEL) is still in a very bad state where they only useful as Tanked Rifle users, and still get out preformed by Logis.The new Shield extender Delay penalty will FORCE heavy players to use only Damage mods since they cannot risk having even MORE shield delay. snip To be fair with only one or two high-slots on Heavy Frames the Complex Damage Mod really is only choice. I enjoyed reading the rage it mirrors what I'm feeling towards the game. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71 310k+ SP for +0.05m/s (>2in) on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
Seigfried Warheit 67	Posted - 2013.12.05 10:13:00 - [36] - Quote I think dust has finally made you go insane King Checkmate :(..anywho Im still going to proto my assault cause I love dem sidearms <3333 say what you will but being able to switch to a sidearm is worth not wearing yellow..except amarr logis they are perfect they play their intended role of assault logis rather awesomely and I wish I skilled into them :(
Kierkegaard Soren DUST University Ivy League 31	Posted - 2013.12.05 11:39:00 - [37] - Quote I've played Commando pretty much exclusively since its release and every one of your points rings loud and clear to me. In truth, I use it still for the same reasons I play Dust at all; the potential that one day CCP will come good and align a good idea with good execution. I love the concept of the commando suit, it just fits my play style perfectly, but so much about the design of it makes no sense. It is insanely difficult to use and I just wish CCP would listen to the feedback and make it awesome. Because I want everyone to have awesome things; scouts, heavies, tankers, the lot. I want this game to be amazing. So I'll stick around and keep doing what I do, K/DR be damned. Great post, King. Edit: change the thread title to: Welcome to Armored Core 514 ;)
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2773	Posted - 2013.12.05 18:16:00 - [38] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: snip GÖªThe Heavy Dropsuit (SENTINEL) is still in a very bad state where they only useful as Tanked Rifle users, and still get out preformed by Logis.The new Shield extender Delay penalty will FORCE heavy players to use only Damage mods since they cannot risk having even MORE shield delay. snip To be fair with only one or two high-slots on Heavy Frames the Complex Damage Mod really is only choice. I enjoyed reading the rage it mirrors what I'm feeling towards the game. I used SHield Energizers on Heavies... TT..TT @ Kierkegaard Soren : AHAH nah, Armored Core is one of my FAvourite Game series, i wont taint its name with something DUST related XD WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 715	Posted - 2013.12.05 18:48:00 - [39] - Quote Respect Plasma Cannon Advocate
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 964	Posted - 2013.12.05 19:29:00 - [40] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tankers They have had already pretty rough times, now with this vehicle ''REBALANCE '' it seems they might have more issues ahead. No : im NOT AGAINST the vehicle rebalance and i cant really comment on it until i see AV vs Tank action on the field,. but one thing really annoys me. THE FACT , ammo is NOT ONLY LIMITED, Slots were REDUCED, but in order to have MORE ammo you must use one of these SLOTS. WTH? who thought of this? Shouldnt it just be a PASSIVE SKILL same as infantry has? There is a passive skill that has been introduced, but the bigger question is resupply mechanics and supply depots. What happens when the forging heavy destroys my supply depot? Won't all supply depots be camped? What gives with the massive cool downs? Heat dissipation skill, yet no active heat syncs? Passive speed mods (nano fiber chassis mods) seem to be gone? My point is there are so many questions and too little answers. So about those vehicle locks...

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1616	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:04:00 - [41] - Quote My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2785	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:22:00 - [42] - Quote Atiim wrote: Y u sad lil' atiim? WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 213	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:34:00 - [43] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: QQ 1.7 = Vehicle rebalance patch 1.8 = Probably dropsuit balance patch Chill your biscuits Considering the pushbacks on the vehicle rebalance, I think we have a few good months before infantry get a rebalance.
J0hlss0n Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 59	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:47:00 - [44] - Quote castba wrote: Even though my beloved forge will be nerfed and my burst hmg shoots spit balls, I will continue to play heavy with heavy weapons. Stubborn as hell, what can I say. Same here. Still waiting and hoping for the rest of the heavy suits and weapons...
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2789	Posted - 2013.12.05 22:55:00 - [45] - Quote My K-D is going way up. 0.08 + in only 2 days.... WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Rusty Shallows 563	Posted - 2013.12.06 02:43:00 - [46] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: snip GÖªThe Heavy Dropsuit (SENTINEL) is still in a very bad state where they only useful as Tanked Rifle users, and still get out preformed by Logis.The new Shield extender Delay penalty will FORCE heavy players to use only Damage mods since they cannot risk having even MORE shield delay. snip To be fair with only one or two high-slots on Heavy Frames the Complex Damage Mod really is only choice. I enjoyed reading the rage it mirrors what I'm feeling towards the game. I used SHield Energizers on Heavies... TT..TT That takes guts. You have my respect for sticking it out. I've tried out Shield Extenders verses Damage Mods now and then. After getting a Complex Heavy Damage Mod the SE fits were all deleted. Complex Heavy Damage Mods were especially useful for turret installations reducing the number of shots from 3 down to 2. My impression with HMGs has been out DPS-ing was keeping the clone alive longer. At least it was before hit detection improvements and the Scrambler Rifle. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71 310k+ SP for +0.05m/s (>2in) on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1092	Posted - 2013.12.06 02:55:00 - [47] - Quote Everyone run logi for a month and lets see if CCP notice it. I doubt it. I cant wait to see which rifle will be the new FOTM. I cant wait to die over and over again F* the Snowflake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgKd3cdKdak
Tectonic Fusion 649	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:06:00 - [48] - Quote The logi turns me off because of no sidearm. Skills into Amarr Logi "Cool! A logistic unit with a sidearm!" Looks at movement speed and other crummy stats T.T Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Mejt0 Made in Poland... 64	Posted - 2013.12.06 13:37:00 - [49] - Quote The worst is that CCP dont care.. No they dont rebalance logis/armor etc.. they nerf shield. Shield was already loosing to armor, nobody qq about shields and! They make pentaly for it. I dunno whos making this game. Maybe bunch of kids.
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 197	Posted - 2013.12.06 13:52:00 - [50] - Quote If there was a logistics with a heavy slot, i would spec into it so hard. So CCP I herd u liek logistix Can has heavy logistix?

KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 2964	Posted - 2013.12.11 22:47:00 - [51] - Quote So we have the new meta already too. Pretty much what i expected. Logis with the NO SKILL version of the new weapons: Assault combar Rifles and Assault Rail Rifles. CCP, seriously. You should remove ALL ASSAULT VERSIONS and reduce the AR range to 35 optimal. Want more range ? then no full auto for you..... SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4791	Posted - 2013.12.11 22:51:00 - [52] - Quote You were pretty wrong weren't you King? Its Tank514. HAIL THE ARMOURED GODS! "Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 2967	Posted - 2013.12.11 22:53:00 - [53] - Quote True Adamance wrote: You were pretty wrong weren't you King? Its Tank514. HAIL THE ARMOURED GODS! WHat? no im not wrong. Tanks are indeed almost indestructible (nice F* up CCP) , but they are actually easily ignored. I dont even have any AV fittings anymore, nor i need them... I'll just get a tank! : weeeeeeeeeeeeeoooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii SCR User Since release.** Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1851	Posted - 2013.12.11 22:56:00 - [54] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Atiim wrote: Y u sad lil' atiim? Very sad. It would seem as if we've failed my friend. None heeded our warnings, and now HAVs are so loldiculosly easy to spam. It's been less than 48hrs and I can already tell that they will become a FoTM. This game just went from CODLogiARScanner 514, to Tank 514. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 2967	Posted - 2013.12.11 22:57:00 - [55] - Quote Atiim wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Atiim wrote: Y u sad lil' atiim? Very sad. It would seem as if we've failed my friend. None heeded our warnings, and now HAVs are so loldiculosly easy to spam. It's been less than 48hrs and I can already tell that they will become a FoTM. This game just went from CODLogiARScanner 514, to Tank 514. Just get a tank and let own everything. The only way to make CCP balance them (AKA NERF THE Sht out of them) is to make more people realize what they've done, and this will only happen when the Max vechicle limit is reached every game and infantry has no chance at all. get a tank.own in dust. SCR User Since release.* Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1852	Posted - 2013.12.11 23:14:00 - [56] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Just get a tank and let own everything. The only way to make CCP balance them (AKA NERF THE Sh*t out of them) is to make more people realize what they've done, and this will only happen when the Max vehicle limit is reached every game and infantry has no chance at all. get a tank.own in dust. I find it depressing that this is the only way to get people to realize that. But it must be done. When a MLT vehicle with MLT mods can withstand PRO AV with ease, that creates a problem. When it takes 6 people to take down one tank, that creates a problem. Those who didn't like Chrome because of the HAVs will have a real fun time with this patch. But I have hope in our abilities. We shall achieve balance again. For the good of this game. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2039	Posted - 2013.12.11 23:16:00 - [57] - Quote I LOVE PAIN I LOVE BETRAYAL I LOVE STICKING RES TO MY LAV I HATE NOT BEING ABLE TO CATCH UP WITH TANKS UNLESS I FIT 2 AFTERBURNERS ;_;
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2039	Posted - 2013.12.11 23:17:00 - [58] - Quote Atiim wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Just get a tank and let own everything. The only way to make CCP balance them (AKA NERF THE Sh*t out of them) is to make more people realize what they've done, and this will only happen when the Max vehicle limit is reached every game and infantry has no chance at all. get a tank.own in dust. I find it depressing that this is the only way to get people to realize that. But it must be done. When a MLT vehicle with MLT mods can withstand PRO AV with ease, that creates a problem. When it takes 6 people to take down one tank, that creates a problem. Those who didn't like Chrome because of the HAVs will have a real fun time with this patch. But I have hope in our abilities. We shall achieve balance again. For the good of this game. It only takes about 300,000sp to get a good OP tank
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1854	Posted - 2013.12.11 23:19:00 - [59] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: It only takes about 300,000sp to get a good OP tank The sad part is that I got 7mil SP back from the vehicle respec too. And the pilots were complaining about the SP tree requiring too much SP to max out?!?! DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2043	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:07:00 - [60] - Quote Atiim wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: It only takes about 300,000sp to get a good OP tank The sad part is that I got 7mil SP back from the vehicle respec too. And the pilots were complaining about the SP tree requiring too much SP to max out?!?! yeah they were... why was that again?



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