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Posted - 2013.12.07 00:27:00 -
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SponkSponkSponk wrote:In fact, isn't the sniper starter suit a light frame?
In the earlier releases it was the Recon fitting, and more later the Arbiter. The 4 Archetype roles no longer exist. the Sniper [STARTER FIT] is your race's MLT Medium Frame with a MLT Sniper Rifle.
And in Chromosome the Sniper [STARTER FIT] was a MLT Assault suit with a MLT Sniper Rifle
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Posted - 2013.12.07 02:40:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:So I can ditch my active scanner that I dumped SP into and waste a slot on most suits for? No I don't think so, scouts can share scan data if they just do like the rest of us, whip out a scanner and spin in a circle so everyone can see that flashlight bobbing, there should be some risk involved.
DJINN Jecture has a very god point here. The only exception is that (A) For a Scout to even approach the capacity of an ADV Scanner they would need to dedicate all 5 slots they have. And still it falls short of the ADV scanner. (B) this is only possible on a Scout gk.0 And takes more than double in SP what your Active Scanner costs.
Scout gk.0 with Scan Precision V and a single complex Precision Enhancer equipped: 45-10%-20% = 45*0.9*0.8= 32.4
So to get your Scan Precision down to 36, the value you would need would be lvl 3 with an enhanced precision enhancer
The SP value so far?
Active Scanner: Dropsuit Upgrades I(6220), Dropsuit Core Upgrades II (49740), Active Scanner III (205200); 261160 SP
Precison Enhancer: Dropsuit Upgrades I (6220), Dropsuit Core Upgrades I (12440), Dropsuit Electronics I (31100), Precision Enhancement III (205200); 254960 SP
Alright, so for a Scout suit to be able to get the same precision as the ADV active scanner it cost them 6200 SP less.
Now, let's talk about range.
The range on all 3 ADV scanners in 100m. The maximum range a Scout gk.0 suit can achieve is 102.88.
16 meter base on Scouts, 50% bonus from Gallente Scout Ops V, 50% bonus from Range Amplification V, +185.78% from 4 complex range amplifiers (these are subject to stacking penalties BTW)
So, lets look at the SP values now. Because you need all 4 slots and the full skill bonuses, you need to have a Gallente Scout Operation V, a total skill investment of 2.7 million SP, while the active scanner can be placed on any suit. On top of that it also needs Range Amplification V.
SP values ADV Active Scanner, 261160 SP
SP Values of scou with 100m range: dropsuit command II, Gallente Light Frame Operations III, Gallente Scout Operations V, Dropsuit Upgrades I, Dropsuit Electronics I, Range Amplification V.
It must be hard, being a Canadian stoner, math just happens to be too hard for you. I mean you can't even see the SP disparity between a scout needing over three and a half million skill points, using up all 5 slots on a dropsuit, to be equal to the limited amount of SP necessary for an ADV Active Scanner that only takes up a single equipment slot and can be put on ANY dropsuit.
Oh, and you can bring your Active Scanning up to level 5 and have the option for more range (200m) or to have better precision than a Gallente Scout can ever possibly have. 28 compared to 30.2 or 15 compared to 30.2
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Posted - 2013.12.07 02:48:00 -
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Garth Mandra wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Except you coud fit a proto scout with complex precision enhancers/range amplifiers and get 100m passive scan range with 30db scan fidelity, then sit in a tank and act as passive scanner for anyone in the range of your minimap, all the while farming intel assists from kills. This could be an issue. Just turn off passive scans while in a vehicle though. I'm not sure whether you should get scan assists for passive scanning though. It probably wouldn't be game breaking so it could just be tried out and then turned off/tweaked if it doesn't work right.
Tested this out myself. My suit's passive scanning did no work from with an LAV, HAV, or Dropship
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