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Pr0phetzReck0ning Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 91	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:19:00 - [1] - Quote What if CCP created new dropsuits beyond Proto!? Think about it? Proto suits are Prototypes of something more Finalised something that has yet to be released onto the world. I personally think giving us atleast 1 more Dropsuit tier would be awesome. The Ultimate Dropsuits. Pure God-Mode What do you all think? Should there be a new tier to Dropsuits? If so what would they be called? How would they be designed?? DISCUSS!!
R F Gyro Clones 4u 758	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:22:00 - [2] - Quote You mean like officer suits? Balac's assault dropsuit, for example? God-mode, definitely not. 10% better than proto at 5x the cost, why not? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 290	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:22:00 - [3] - Quote No. If they did this, they'd better be insanely expensive or Salvage only. Like officer weapons, these would make Pubs viable for everyone, keep them in Basic/STD/ADV gear and maybe get Officer Dropsuits. Names of playstyles
Skihids Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 2485	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:24:00 - [4] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: What if CCP created new dropsuits beyond Proto!? Think about it? Proto suits are Prototypes of something more Finalised something that has yet to be released onto the world. I personally think giving us atleast 1 more Dropsuit tier would be awesome. The Ultimate Dropsuits. Pure God-Mode What do you all think? Should there be a new tier to Dropsuits? If so what would they be called? How would they be designed?? DISCUSS!! They did back in closed beta. HAVs were Super God Mode suits that did everything 50x better than any other suit.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5782	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:25:00 - [5] - Quote Protostomping is already a huge problem, and you're advocating exacerbating it? Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Pr0phetzReck0ning Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 91	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:26:00 - [6] - Quote I like the idea of Officer Suits. They could be suits that are highly rare and expensive. With the new FW changes what if you need aton of LP to get the officer suits for your respective Faction??
R F Gyro Clones 4u 758	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:28:00 - [7] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I like the idea of Officer Suits. They could be suits that are highly rare and expensive. With the new FW changes what if you need aton of LP to get the officer suits for your respective Faction?? I think faction suits (from the LP store) would be different from officer suits (from salvage), but both would be slightly better than proto. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 292	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:28:00 - [8] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I like the idea of Officer Suits. They could be suits that are highly rare and expensive. With the new FW changes what if you need aton of LP to get the officer suits for your respective Faction?? Still too easy for those of us dedicated FW players. Make it salvage only, and I can get behind this. Put it on the Market, and it's too easy. I have some salvaged officer weapons and other such stuff, getting officer suits through salvage is the only way to balance this. Just my 2 ISK. Names of playstyles
Joel II X AHPA 272	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:30:00 - [9] - Quote There was a Thale BPO dropsuit in the market before it got taken out. It was trash, however.
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 191	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:30:00 - [10] - Quote Until it gets lost to an orbital and your game console ends up in pieces.

Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 292	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:30:00 - [11] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I like the idea of Officer Suits. They could be suits that are highly rare and expensive. With the new FW changes what if you need aton of LP to get the officer suits for your respective Faction?? I think faction suits (from the LP store) would be different from officer suits (from salvage), but both would be slightly better than proto. THIS is a good idea, make one for factional and one for salvage. that way, everyone has a chance to get one, but.... Names of playstyles
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5574	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:31:00 - [12] - Quote They might do the same in Dust like they did in Eve Online with Tech III strategic cruisers. The Loki The Legion The Tengu And the Proteus CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Pr0phetzReck0ning Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 92	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:32:00 - [13] - Quote Officer Dropsuit with 5 Highs and 5 Lows .... Light/Heavy Weapon ... No sidearm... 1 grenade slot and 2 equipment slots and of course more CPU/ PG then Proto!!
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 191	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:36:00 - [14] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Officer Dropsuit with 5 Highs and 5 Lows .... Light/Heavy Weapon ... No sidearm... 1 grenade slot and 2 equipment slots and of course more CPU/ PG then Proto!! No sidearm, guess there'll be no officer AV then. Although if I had a Heavy + Light slot I'd crap my pants.
Akdhar Saif Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 88	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:36:00 - [15] - Quote Wasn't there talk of completely removing the tiered weak-to-strong theme they have and replacing it with a specialisation tree where more skillpoints allow you to excel in specialised niches. That way it isn't just a massive grind to the boring-ass UBERSUITS.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 292	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:36:00 - [16] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Officer Dropsuit with 5 Highs and 5 Lows .... Light/Heavy Weapon ... No sidearm... 1 grenade slot and 2 equipment slots and of course more CPU/ PG then Proto!! ....Really? No. Maybe for Officer Sentinel, but... you know what? Too much even for that. Just no. Bad Prophet. Names of playstyles
Pr0phetzReck0ning Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 92	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:39:00 - [17] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Officer Dropsuit with 5 Highs and 5 Lows .... Light/Heavy Weapon ... No sidearm... 1 grenade slot and 2 equipment slots and of course more CPU/ PG then Proto!! ....Really? No. Maybe for Officer Sentinel, but... you know what? Too much even for that. Just no. Bad Prophet. :-( ... Im trying here lol I want fresh ideas !! Edit: I meant either Light weapon or Heavy. Not a suit that can have both
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 293	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:45:00 - [18] - Quote I know, I like saying no all the time. Caldari: One more High, Higher CPU/PG, more Shield recharge Amarr: One more Low, Higher CPU/PG, more speed Gallente: One more Low, Higher CPU/PG, more Speed Minmatar: One more High, Higher CPU/PG, more Shield recharge And overall better stats for them. Those above are for the ones that are higher than usual, the others are tiered. Names of playstyles
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 134	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:47:00 - [19] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: What if CCP created new dropsuits beyond Proto!? Think about it? Proto suits are Prototypes of something more Finalised something that has yet to be released onto the world. I personally think giving us atleast 1 more Dropsuit tier would be awesome. The Ultimate Dropsuits. Pure God-Mode What do you all think? Should there be a new tier to Dropsuits? If so what would they be called? How would they be designed?? DISCUSS!! Duh... look at the stats of the suits. they have a "meta" level. Meta levels don't stop at 10. Additionally there are 3 tech levels of equipment and ships in EVE. So far, everything in DUST is still at tech level 1. There are Tiers and Tech levels and the meta number tells you where they fall at on that scale. A basic suit is not only Tech I, but also Tier 1 (meta 1). Advanced is Tech I, and Tier 3 (meta 4). Proto suits are Tech I and Tier 5 (meta 7). In EVE when Tech II came out they started meta numbering them at meta 5. And officer level stuff is above meta 5. In DUST I have to assume that when Tech II hits they will be meta level 10 items.
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 706	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:49:00 - [20] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: What if CCP created new dropsuits beyond Proto!? Think about it? Proto suits are Prototypes of something more Finalised something that has yet to be released onto the world. I personally think giving us atleast 1 more Dropsuit tier would be awesome. The Ultimate Dropsuits. Pure God-Mode What do you all think? Should there be a new tier to Dropsuits? If so what would they be called? How would they be designed?? DISCUSS!! eventually, yes. Other things need attention first, the game needs to evolve more. *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari

R F Gyro Clones 4u 762	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:52:00 - [21] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: I know, I like saying no all the time. Caldari: One more High, Higher CPU/PG, more Shield recharge Amarr: One more Low, Higher CPU/PG, more speed Gallente: One more Low, Higher CPU/PG, more Speed Minmatar: One more High, Higher CPU/PG, more Shield recharge And overall better stats for them. Those above are for the ones that are higher than usual, the others are tiered. Even one extra slot gives a massive advantage, so I'd limit it to just additional CPU/PG, slightly better bonuses, or reduced skill requirements. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 293	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:53:00 - [22] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: I know, I like saying no all the time. Caldari: One more High, Higher CPU/PG, more Shield recharge Amarr: One more Low, Higher CPU/PG, more speed Gallente: One more Low, Higher CPU/PG, more Speed Minmatar: One more High, Higher CPU/PG, more Shield recharge And overall better stats for them. Those above are for the ones that are higher than usual, the others are tiered. Even one extra slot gives a massive advantage, so I'd limit it to just additional CPU/PG, slightly better bonuses, or reduced skill requirements. But you're supposed to have an advantage in these suits. No weapon can zoom as much as a Thale's, for example, which is a massive advantage. Names of playstyles
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 32	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:54:00 - [23] - Quote There should be other tiers of suits. At the moment you have medium that splits into assault and logi. If you then make the lvl 3 or 5 of those and specialize again. Say the logi level 5 & scout level 5 unlocks the ewar specialist. Someone who can dampen their team and wield scanners at 20% of the CPU after scanners get CPU multiplier of 5. An assault 5 & sentinel 5 unlocks a black eagle variant that has two light weapons, lower profile and faster speed for the equivalent of an interceptor etc Ideas only not set in stone. So far I was thinking these should all be racial based and loyalty points to unlock the skill book then isk to buy the suits. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 136	Posted - 2013.12.04 22:02:00 - [24] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: I know, I like saying no all the time. Caldari: One more High, Higher CPU/PG, more Shield recharge Amarr: One more Low, Higher CPU/PG, more speed Gallente: One more Low, Higher CPU/PG, more Speed Minmatar: One more High, Higher CPU/PG, more Shield recharge And overall better stats for them. Those above are for the ones that are higher than usual, the others are tiered. Even one extra slot gives a massive advantage, so I'd limit it to just additional CPU/PG, slightly better bonuses, or reduced skill requirements. The advantage of a new "level" of stuff doesn't work that way. In EVE, FW ships would get bonuses kinda like what you have above, different slot layouts or modified roles, but not always. Sometimes they just get a slightly better bonus and that's it. For officer level stuff that refers to pirate NPC factions. Most of those rely on a 'hybrid' or combination of two races racial bonuses for their ships. So The Angels are a combination of Minmatar and Galente and thus you receive one bonus based on your Minmatar ship piloting skill and another separate bonus based upon your Gallente ship piloting skill. I would assume the same here in DUST as the Black Eagle suits are a combination of Minmatar and Gallente racial stuffs. Now when they introduce Tech II stuffs, that's different. Originally the Tech II ship would be based of the Tech I variant of the ship that they were based upon. So they would have same racial and role bonuses and slot layouts etc. The major difference was that they would have an additional role bonus combined with vastly better shield/armor resistances. Now they've refined them to be "specialized" ships. Where a Tech I ship can be configured to do a wide variety of things, a Tech II ship gets a very focused role bonus now and it really only good for that one (or two) thing(s). I would assume that if they ever get to the point of Tech II dropsuits and vehicles they will be similarly task focused but able to do that one thing very very well.


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