DUST Search - This is how CCP will simmer down FW griefing for those that want it.

Jadek Menaheim wrote:

As a suicide awoxer evangelist, I'm glad people are catching on to the power of calculated sabotage to throw matches. However, it is a legitimate concern that these tactics hurt overall sentiment for those wanting to continue playing Faction Warfare, or Dust 514 for that matter. Yes, the tactic can evolve into an exploit.

To provide context, what these gentlemen of team (A) do is throw a match with speed and efficiency for the Q-Synced player(s) on team (B). A squad of six coordinated suiciders working at peak capacity can throw a match in about 5 minutes.That means (B), their clients, have an easier and almost guaranteed method to grind LP for the faction of their choice, Caldari underdogs included. The suicide squad gets their cut of isk for involvement.

I would strongly encourage CCP to approach this situation with care. The existence and use of this strategy can be healthy for the game when given some boundaries. It encourages an underground P2P economy. Rather than kicking players from matches for frequent deaths there are other methods to tackling this 'issue.'

I would suggest that all mercs be given a security status based on their persistent battle record. Frequent deaths (past 5 per match, recognized as suicides and clone 'died' messages), afk kicks, team kills, team damage generated, and outright FW bans would all be data points noted in one's mercenary battle file (yes, we hear that message given by the announcer, but nothing is done). These data points would contribute toward a security rating 1.0 through 0.0. Low security ratings would limit the frequency of faction battles a mercenary may play with the given four empires (due to the reduced number of lower-sec battle generated by CCPs systems). However, all parties could be satisfied if a pirate faction was introduced to support mercs with pirate gear (Sansha Nation, Blood Raiders, Various Deadspace Groups) for those that choose to fight dirty and play in low-sec, or eventually null-sec battles.

I did consider suggesting that corporation receive a security rating based on the average status values of all members--more discussion needs to be hashed out on this point.

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Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1325	Posted - 2013.12.19 12:42:00 - [31] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Sole Fenychs wrote: Jadu Wen wrote: It'd seem like you'd have to buy your own deployment vehicle if that was the case. Cue mercenaries having their own ships in EVE, but having far less ISK than everyone else due to 1:1 exchange rate. Which means that they only use them to transport themselves to their targets. Maybe with an orbital drop +í la Section 8. But that may be getting way too wild. Still sounds awesome! I think it'd be cool if Eve pilots could fire CRUs from Bomb Launchers to initiate battles. I also wish that we'd be able to have orbital insertion (at least for the attackers), it would solve the problems with redlining (neither team could redline or be redlined). EDIT: It would also incentivize Defending letters since you never know when a speedhacker could drop out of orbit with some uplinks and hack your letter before you ever realize it. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 726	Posted - 2013.12.19 14:55:00 - [32] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Sole Fenychs wrote: Jadu Wen wrote: It'd seem like you'd have to buy your own deployment vehicle if that was the case. Cue mercenaries having their own ships in EVE, but having far less ISK than everyone else due to 1:1 exchange rate. Which means that they only use them to transport themselves to their targets. Maybe with an orbital drop +í la Section 8. But that may be getting way too wild. Still sounds awesome! I think it'd be cool if Eve pilots could fire CRUs from Bomb Launchers to initiate battles. I also wish that we'd be able to have orbital insertion (at least for the attackers), it would solve the problems with redlining (neither team could redline or be redlined). EDIT: It would also incentivize Defending letters since you never know when a speedhacker could drop out of orbit with some uplinks and hack your letter before you ever realize it. Something like this? Before Dropships would insta-kill the pilot when jumping out, this was my occasional ace up the sleeve to push a diversionary hack. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1326	Posted - 2013.12.19 15:01:00 - [33] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Sole Fenychs wrote: Jadu Wen wrote: It'd seem like you'd have to buy your own deployment vehicle if that was the case. Cue mercenaries having their own ships in EVE, but having far less ISK than everyone else due to 1:1 exchange rate. Which means that they only use them to transport themselves to their targets. Maybe with an orbital drop +í la Section 8. But that may be getting way too wild. Still sounds awesome! I think it'd be cool if Eve pilots could fire CRUs from Bomb Launchers to initiate battles. I also wish that we'd be able to have orbital insertion (at least for the attackers), it would solve the problems with redlining (neither team could redline or be redlined). EDIT: It would also incentivize Defending letters since you never know when a speedhacker could drop out of orbit with some uplinks and hack your letter before you ever realize it. Something like this? Before Dropships would insta-kill the pilot when jumping out, this was my occasional ace up the sleeve to push a diversionary hack. Yes, very much like that (only without losing a dropship) Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1232	Posted - 2013.12.19 15:38:00 - [34] - Quote You guys, bitched and whined about having FF on. We, the uncaring masses, told you it would be a grief fest. Theres your ******* dinner, enjoy. "We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1442	Posted - 2013.12.27 04:10:00 - [35] - Quote Yum. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 707	Posted - 2013.12.27 04:25:00 - [36] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: As a suicide awoxer evangelist, I'm glad people are catching on to the power of calculated sabotage to throw matches. However, it is a legitimate concern that these tactics hurt overall sentiment for those wanting to continue playing Faction Warfare, or Dust 514 for that matter. Yes, the tactic can evolve into an exploit. To provide context, what these gentlemen of team (A) do is throw a match with speed and efficiency for the Q-Synced player(s) on team (B). A squad of six coordinated suiciders working at peak capacity can throw a match in about 5 minutes.That means (B), their clients, have an easier and almost guaranteed method to grind LP for the faction of their choice, Caldari underdogs included. The suicide squad gets their cut of isk for involvement. I would strongly encourage CCP to approach this situation with care. The existence and use of this strategy can be healthy for the game when given some boundaries. It encourages an underground P2P economy. Rather than kicking players from matches for frequent deaths there are other methods to tackling this 'issue.' I would suggest that all mercs be given a security status based on their persistent battle record. Frequent deaths (past 5 per match, recognized as suicides and clone 'died' messages), afk kicks, team kills, team damage generated, and outright FW bans would all be data points noted in one's mercenary battle file (yes, we hear that message given by the announcer, but nothing is done). These data points would contribute toward a security rating 1.0 through 0.0. Low security ratings would limit the frequency of faction battles a mercenary may play with the given four empires (due to the reduced number of lower-sec battle generated by CCPs systems). However, all parties could be satisfied if a pirate faction was introduced to support mercs with pirate gear (Sansha Nation, Blood Raiders, Various Deadspace Groups) for those that choose to fight dirty and play in low-sec, or eventually null-sec battles. I did consider suggesting that corporation receive a security rating based on the average status values of all members--more discussion needs to be hashed out on this point. As suggestions go, this one is pretty badass. Munch Dedicated Sniper. Minmatar Patriot (5).
Seems Good We Can Trust Them 623	Posted - 2013.12.27 04:27:00 - [37] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: Jadu Wen wrote: It'd seem like you'd have to buy your own deployment vehicle if that was the case. Cue mercenaries having their own ships in EVE, but having far less ISK than everyone else due to 1:1 exchange rate. Which means that they only use them to transport themselves to their targets. Maybe with an orbital drop +í la Section 8. But that may be getting way too wild. GIVE ME THIS!!!
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1444	Posted - 2013.12.27 17:36:00 - [38] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: If you run with purple, I'd say that purple players buy their own clones. They are totally cut off from any kind of support by the higher ups and rely only on themselves. How much would clone biomass/transport fees cost if we went this route? [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 459	Posted - 2013.12.27 17:43:00 - [39] - Quote If we did go with a third wheel it would be nice to have a window which either teams can use to indicate which players they trust from this reserve. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Seems Good We Can Trust Them 626	Posted - 2013.12.27 18:49:00 - [40] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: As a suicide awoxer evangelist, I'm glad people are catching on to the power of calculated sabotage to throw matches. However, it is a legitimate concern that these tactics hurt overall sentiment for those wanting to continue playing Faction Warfare, or Dust 514 for that matter. Yes, the tactic can evolve into an exploit. To provide context, what these gentlemen of team (A) do is throw a match with speed and efficiency for the Q-Synced player(s) on team (B). A squad of six coordinated suiciders working at peak capacity can throw a match in about 5 minutes.That means (B), their clients, have an easier and almost guaranteed method to grind LP for the faction of their choice, Caldari underdogs included. The suicide squad gets their cut of isk for involvement. Honestly, how much to people actually go through the trouble of doing this now? Setting up a contact, organizing a team, making sure payment is met, keeping a list of deadbeat clients---it's a lot of work for a game. Seems like you showing your hand by giving out this information.

Elmo Love U 514 Mile High Club 538	Posted - 2013.12.27 19:15:00 - [41] - Quote Nobody gives a rats azz about FW. I don't work for free. I play for isk,nothing else. You go ahead and keep wastiing you time killing yourselves. Laughing all the way to the bank. Bunch of scrubs ChantsPVE PVE PVE PVE
Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 736	Posted - 2013.12.27 19:41:00 - [42] - Quote The answer is more simple than all of this .... self inflicted damage counts against your FF count. if you suicide a 500ehp suit than that counts as 500 team damage or a team kill. the only problem is the maps still have places you can get stuck and can only escape with suicide. Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Apply today! For the State Caldari Loyalist
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1446	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:46:00 - [43] - Quote Elmo Love U wrote: Nobody gives a rats azz about FW. I don't work for free. I play for isk,nothing else. You go ahead and keep wastiing you time killing yourselves. Laughing all the way to the bank. Bunch of scrubs The thing is these players often work for isk because they are providing a service of helping people easily grind LP for the faction, and in turn items of their choice. If you were really feeling dastardly, you could q-sync an entire team of suiciders and end the match in approximately 2 minutes. That translates to quite a bit of LP over a given span of time if you efficiently grind the system. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1446	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:47:00 - [44] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: The answer is more simple than all of this .... self inflicted damage counts against your FF count. if you suicide a 500ehp suit than that counts as 500 team damage or a team kill. the only problem is the maps still have places you can get stuck and can only escape with suicide. And griefers are going to capitalize on that if suicide leads to a kick. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 459	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:57:00 - [45] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: The answer is more simple than all of this .... self inflicted damage counts against your FF count. if you suicide a 500ehp suit than that counts as 500 team damage or a team kill. the only problem is the maps still have places you can get stuck and can only escape with suicide. The thing is, what counts as a suicide? Falling death, running in front of teammate fire, vehicle crushing, red-line death, Neocom suicide? All the above? Some of this stuff becomes difficult to track, especially with bugs in the current build. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1446	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:06:00 - [46] - Quote For example, Jadek Menaheim (Suicide) Jadek Menaheim (died) Jadek Menaheim These messages are easy enough to track. Intentional Suicide by friendly fire and subsequent punish is a bit more difficult. Awox squads can coordinate and literally box a player in from moving to intentionally antagonize a TK. Reactions and follow up mail is quite...colorful. This satisfies the requests of bounty postings. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1453	Posted - 2013.12.28 22:26:00 - [47] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: I would suggest that all mercs be given a security status based on their persistent battle record. Frequent deaths (past 5 per match, recognized as suicides and clone 'died' messages), afk kicks, team kills, team damage generated, and outright FW bans would all be data points noted in one's mercenary battle file (yes, we hear that message given by the announcer, but nothing is done). These data points would contribute toward a security rating 1.0 through 0.0. Low security ratings would limit the frequency of faction battles a mercenary may play with the given four empires (due to the reduced number of lower-sec battle generated by CCPs systems). However, all parties could be satisfied if a pirate faction was introduced to support mercs with pirate gear (Sansha Nation, Blood Raiders, Various Deadspace Groups) for those that choose to fight dirty and play in low-sec, or eventually null-sec battles. I am also considering that a player's weekly or monthly KDR and War Points would factor into this security rating. The more efficient you are as a mercenary the more like factions are going to hire you for more elite and higher paying assignments. That means that each week or month your security score is given a minor reassessment. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 460	Posted - 2013.12.28 23:29:00 - [48] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: I would suggest that all mercs be given a security status based on their persistent battle record. Factors which affect battle record: [FW Specific] -Suicide (past 5 per match, recognized as suicides and clone 'died' messages) -AFK kick -Team kills -Team damage generated -FW bans [Global] -Weekly KDR -Weekly Warpoints -Weekly Battles Participated Would this be a total sum system or would your total point values be able to put you over a sum of 1.0 giving a player more leeway room to grief if they were a more proficient slayer or war-point earner? GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1455	Posted - 2013.12.29 21:06:00 - [49] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: I would suggest that all mercs be given a security status based on their persistent battle record. Factors which affect battle record: [FW Specific] -Suicide (past 5 per match, recognized as suicides and clone 'died' messages) -AFK kick -Team kills -Team damage generated -FW bans [Global] -Weekly KDR -Weekly Warpoints -Weekly Battles Participated Would this be a total sum system or would your total point values be able to put you over a sum of 1.0 giving a player more leeway room to grief if they were a more proficient slayer or war-point earner? I would opt more for the latter. That's up for debate. We'd still need to figure out point values and modifiers for these categories. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 171	Posted - 2013.12.29 21:17:00 - [50] - Quote Or just ad suieside to the 5000 hp ban And the problem is solved. Or ad one more perimeter If you kill your self more then 4 - 5 times in a match you are out ( it do not count towards TK or the 5000 hp ban it's a separate thing kr I don't want to win battles with this bull. I want a god fight regardless of the outcome And to rainbow guys thanx for a AWSOME game in FW 2 day it was close and thight and great even if we lost it was kick as fun. Regards War never changes

Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1455	Posted - 2013.12.29 21:28:00 - [51] - Quote You eliminate a lot of interesting potential of the sandbox with that approach. The suggestion I am offering helps satisfy both sides. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 171	Posted - 2013.12.29 21:31:00 - [52] - Quote Elmo Love U wrote: Nobody gives a rats azz about FW. I don't work for free. I play for isk,nothing else. You go ahead and keep wastiing you time killing yourselves. Laughing all the way to the bank. Bunch of scrubs And I laugh at you that don't understand that Lp are a currency. When you get high standing its extremely cost effective to get your proto stuff I think I am close to 5 proto 4 every win now Also if they do what I believe is down the line and ad officer stuff to high standing ppl I will gladly trade it for your isk.,, just remember I have a couple of 100miljon isk already so it's going to be expensive =ƒÿÿ War never changes
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 171	Posted - 2013.12.29 21:39:00 - [53] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: You eliminate a lot of interesting potential of the sandbox with that approach. The suggestion I am offering helps satisfy both sides. What potential a full squad of susiders killing them self 30+ times in what way do that ad anything to the game Have been on both sides when this happens it's just bull sh-ít and I fail to c the difference of kling your self or to do a lot of TK. The question is what do the game win in allowing this, what fun does it ad? Nothing whatsoever if you ask me and I am 100% sure the majority of the player base feels the same way. Regards War never changes
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1455	Posted - 2013.12.30 01:44:00 - [54] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: You eliminate a lot of interesting potential of the sandbox with that approach. The suggestion I am offering helps satisfy both sides. What potential a full squad of susiders killing them self 30+ times in what way do that ad anything to the game Have been on both sides when this happens it's just bull sh-ít and I fail to c the difference of kling your self or to do a lot of TK. The question is what do the game win in allowing this, what fun does it ad? Nothing whatsoever if you ask me and I am 100% sure the majority of the player base feels the same way. Regards I think I spelled it out pretty clearly in the OP. This activity promotes an underground service economy. Jadek Menaheim wrote: To provide context, what these gentlemen of team (A) do is throw a match with speed and efficiency for the Q-Synced player(s) on team (B). A squad of six coordinated suiciders working at peak capacity can throw a match in about 5 minutes.That means (B), their clients, have an easier and almost guaranteed method to grind LP for the faction of their choice, Caldari underdogs included. The suicide squad gets their cut of isk for involvement. What I am offering here are suggestions and systems to allow this kind of activity by gradually funneling suiciders and griefers into pirate faction and null-sec battles (note: these faction(s) do not currently exist). Such systems, as I have stated can satisfy Awoxers and traditional FPS players whilst expanding the tools in the greater sandbox of Dust 514. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 460	Posted - 2013.12.30 01:46:00 - [55] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: You eliminate a lot of interesting potential of the sandbox with that approach. The suggestion I am offering helps satisfy both sides. What potential a full squad of susiders killing them self 30+ times in what way do that ad anything to the game Have been on both sides when this happens it's just bull sh-ít and I fail to c the difference of kling your self or to do a lot of TK. The question is what do the game win in allowing this, what fun does it ad? Nothing whatsoever if you ask me and I am 100% sure the majority of the player base feels the same way. Regards Dear God man, invest that LP into a spell-checker or Hooked on Phonics-« program. Yikes. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1455	Posted - 2013.12.30 01:53:00 - [56] - Quote Not to demean your faculties Piraten Hovnoret, however poor grammer does not lend itself well to arguing a point. Please work on this. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Seems Good We Can Trust Them 630	Posted - 2013.12.30 01:59:00 - [57] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: What I am offering here are suggestions and systems to allow this kind of activity by gradually funneling suiciders and griefers into pirate faction and null-sec battles (note: these faction(s) do not currently exist). Such systems, as I have stated can satisfy Awoxers and traditional FPS players whilst expanding the tools in the greater sandbox of Dust 514. My question is what is going to make this pirate faction gear worth the trouble?
Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 736	Posted - 2013.12.30 05:03:00 - [58] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: Ku Shala wrote: The answer is more simple than all of this .... self inflicted damage counts against your FF count. if you suicide a 500ehp suit than that counts as 500 team damage or a team kill. the only problem is the maps still have places you can get stuck and can only escape with suicide. The thing is, what counts as a suicide? Falling death, running in front of teammate fire, vehicle crushing, red-line death, Neocom suicide? All the above? Some of this stuff becomes difficult to track, especially with bugs in the current build. any damage you cause yourself, the damage to kick might need to be slightly adjusted. All I know I i it cant go without penalty. Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Apply today! For the State Caldari Loyalist
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1456	Posted - 2013.12.30 06:23:00 - [59] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: any damage you cause yourself, the damage to kick might need to be slightly adjusted or added to a different scale (a third way to be kicked). All I know I is it cant go without penalty. The only gear a suicider should obtain from this action is a huge isk fine from the corporate police force, weapons that deal 1dps or dropsuits with 1 ehp that have no slots. The thing is a 'damage to yourself' tracker still favors suiciders and punishes players who run high ehp suits to some extent. A griefer's suit of choice is Minmatar Light Militia frame 115 shield 70 armor for its squishness against team kills (and subsequent player punishes). Going by 5000hp self harm damage kick, a player could skim 27 suicides in that suit. Yes, a different scale would need to be factored if we went this route. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
MySpaceTom Xer Cloud Consortium 207	Posted - 2013.12.30 06:27:00 - [60] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: The only gear a suicider should obtain from this action is a huge isk fine from the corporate police force, weapons that deal 1dps or dropsuits with 1 ehp that have no slots. You can't be bankrupted in this game. Awoxers with benefactors can arrange to have funds transferred to an alt account, so fines wouldn't be an issue. Weapons that deal 1dps would be excellent for pestering teammates, and suits with 1 ehp would be amazing for 'accidental' death by friendly fire. Please consider the implications of what you're saying. 4920616d204a6164656b204d656e616865696d277320526167696e672042696c652044756374



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