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Geovexen
Endless Hatred
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Posted - 2013.12.04 14:50:00 -
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i know is PC i can shoot for my dust bunnies, but with the changes to FW will i still need to enlist in FW eve-side to provide orbital strikes?
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
8295
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Posted - 2013.12.04 14:53:00 -
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FW the only way to call in an orbital strike is if a friendly EVE pilot holds the point for 3 minutes. So basically, bring lots of friends.
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P
C C P Alliance
3117
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Posted - 2013.12.04 15:04:00 -
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Geovexen wrote:i know is PC i can shoot for my dust bunnies, but with the changes to FW will i still need to enlist in FW eve-side to provide orbital strikes?
For Faction Warfare battles the pilot will need to be enrolled in the militia, either individually as part of the NPC corp or that pilots entire corporation can be enrolled.
You can fire for allied militias too.
CCP Nullarbor // Exotic Dancer // Team True Grit
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Geovexen
Endless Hatred
32
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Posted - 2013.12.04 15:04:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:FW the only way to call in an orbital strike is if a friendly EVE pilot holds the point for 3 minutes. So basically, bring lots of friends.
what constitutes friendly? before this update you needed to be in FW eve-side and you would fire for any requests fighting for your faction.
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Geovexen
Endless Hatred
32
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Posted - 2013.12.04 15:05:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Geovexen wrote:i know is PC i can shoot for my dust bunnies, but with the changes to FW will i still need to enlist in FW eve-side to provide orbital strikes?
For Faction Warfare battles the pilot will need to be enrolled in the militia, either individually as part of the NPC corp or that pilots entire corporation can be enrolled. You can fire for allied militias too.
is there anything dust-side that allows us to enroll the corp in FW? |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1138
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Posted - 2013.12.04 15:35:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:You can fire for allied militias too.
So if the Amar Militia players don't rip me to shreds I could, as a member of the Caldari militia, provide orbitals for Amarr? |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2072
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Posted - 2013.12.04 15:36:00 -
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Geovexen wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:FW the only way to call in an orbital strike is if a friendly EVE pilot holds the point for 3 minutes. So basically, bring lots of friends. what constitutes friendly? before this update you needed to be in FW eve-side and you would fire for any requests fighting for your faction.
Gallente are allied with Minmatar and Amarr are allied with Caldari.
// Matari Warrior // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
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steadyhand amarr
steadyhands independent mercenarys
2008
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Posted - 2013.12.04 15:58:00 -
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Dust side nothing needs to be done EvE side u need to pick a side and u will only be able to service that request :-)
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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GOGO power rangers
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
404
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Posted - 2013.12.04 16:38:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Dust side nothing needs to be done EvE side u need to pick a side and u will only be able to service that request :-)
Might be interesting if they eventually migrate that requirement to Dust.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1839
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Posted - 2013.12.04 16:39:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Dust side nothing needs to be done EvE side u need to pick a side and u will only be able to service that request :-) Might be interesting if they eventually migrate that requirement to Dust.
I would enjoy that I could always reaccept my App into the corp, being CEO on an alt was the right choice
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I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity
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Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
871
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Posted - 2013.12.04 16:41:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You can fire for allied militias too. So if the Amar Militia players don't rip me to shreds I could, as a member of the Caldari militia, provide orbitals for Amarr?
I thought they were allies with each other. Members of the Amarr militia could only freely engage Minmatar and Gallente militia, but that's what I think as I never did FW in EVE.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2073
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Posted - 2013.12.04 16:46:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Dust side nothing needs to be done EvE side u need to pick a side and u will only be able to service that request :-) Might be interesting if they eventually migrate that requirement to Dust.
The new standings system allows you to pick sides without enlisting your whole corp. You can switch sides but it'll bring down you current standings.
// Matari Warrior // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
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BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
272
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Posted - 2013.12.04 17:23:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Geovexen wrote:i know is PC i can shoot for my dust bunnies, but with the changes to FW will i still need to enlist in FW eve-side to provide orbital strikes?
For Faction Warfare battles the pilot will need to be enrolled in the militia, either individually as part of the NPC corp or that pilots entire corporation can be enrolled. You can fire for allied militias too.
I am a vocal opponent to this segregation between Dust and EVE members of the same Alliance. This would mean an entire Alliance would have to be strapped into FW just to provide bombardments for their boys on the ground. While this isn't important to the Dust-side at all, it is very hampering to an Alliance in EVE. If you guys are trying to bolster support between EVE and Dust players, I should be allowed to bombard for my guys no matter what militia they fight for or what militia I am (or am not) enrolled in EVE-side. This needs to be rethought. There are really no drawbacks to allowing me to warp to a beacon, choose a side, become Suspect flagged (so the factions don't have to take a sec hit to shoot me for interfering), and continue as normal. Hell, give me a sec hit for each dude I smoke from orbit to "discourage" me
And unlikely as this is, technically it is possible for Dust players to fight for a militia that their Alliance isn't enrolled in, and that means the Alliance could be bombarding their own guys, and are barred from supporting them.
CEO of General Tso's Alliance.
Winner of Hulkageddon IV.
Contact me on my EVE character: Burseg Sardaukar
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steadyhand amarr
steadyhands independent mercenarys
2010
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Posted - 2013.12.04 18:30:00 -
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what are you talking about an alliance can help in FW by spliting up fly boys acorss the empires based on where they are located. the whole point in EvE is that the capsuliers took sides to fight for their empires in a quickly draw up treaty. CAPs are not MERCS nore should they be.
the games are different and have different objectives, stop making up problems that are not problems, heven forbid mercs talk to other corps for help, which is the whole point of the EvE dust link.
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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gobbybobbyy
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
62
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Posted - 2013.12.04 18:40:00 -
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If you join Gallente you will also be able to OB for minmatar (and vice versur)
If you join Amarr you can also OB for Caldari (and Vice versur)
makes sense seeing as they are both allied, but unfortunately you won't be able to OB unless you are in FW. In EVE you need positive standings (or at least 0.0) with the side you wish to join or you can't enlist, you can fix standings by running missions or buying tags, see eve wiki for details.
If you join as a corp you need to have AS A CORP positive standings with the faction you wish to join
for alliances its a bit more complex, Ever corp in the alliance has to get positive standings
if any Corp drops below 0.0 you get a warning message through and 24 hours to fix, failing to fix will result in your entire alliance being pulled out of fac war, you either have to kick that corp from alliance or get that alliance to kick members with negative standings. Either way its a pain! |
Geovexen
Endless Hatred
32
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:25:00 -
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BursegSardaukar wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Geovexen wrote:i know is PC i can shoot for my dust bunnies, but with the changes to FW will i still need to enlist in FW eve-side to provide orbital strikes?
For Faction Warfare battles the pilot will need to be enrolled in the militia, either individually as part of the NPC corp or that pilots entire corporation can be enrolled. You can fire for allied militias too. I am a vocal opponent to this segregation between Dust and EVE members of the same Alliance. This would mean an entire Alliance would have to be strapped into FW just to provide bombardments for their boys on the ground. While this isn't important to the Dust-side at all, it is very hampering to an Alliance in EVE. If you guys are trying to bolster support between EVE and Dust players, I should be allowed to bombard for my guys no matter what militia they fight for or what militia I am (or am not) enrolled in EVE-side. This needs to be rethought. There are really no drawbacks to allowing me to warp to a beacon, choose a side, become Suspect flagged (so the factions don't have to take a sec hit to shoot me for interfering), and continue as normal. Hell, give me a sec hit for each dude I smoke from orbit to "discourage" me And unlikely as this is, technically it is possible for Dust players to fight for a militia that their Alliance isn't enrolled in, and that means the Alliance could be bombarding their own guys, and are barred from supporting them.
that's my frustration too. i understand capsuleers have to pick sides, but mercs dont? that aspect makes sense in the sense that they are guns for hire, but i'm running capsuleers in my dust corporation with the sole intent of using them for OB. my capsuleer should then be no different than a ground merc, a gun for hire.
ultimately i think FW enlisted capsuleers should be able to fire for their respective faction. That makes sense eve-side. I also think though, that capsuleers in corps of mercs should be able to support their guys also as a function of simply being in corp.
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