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MPX Shad Multiplex Gaming Li3 Federation 51	Posted - 2013.12.04 05:12:00 - [1] - Quote Not sure how standings will start or how/if standings can be earn outside of FW, but keep in mind the standings can hit on a corp level. Also if you TK and drop standings, you might end up in a No mans land due to the fact you may not having enough standing with the other side to get back in. Therefore locking yourself out FW all together. I say enjoy being on the outside looking in Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE & MPXPrimetime
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 777	Posted - 2013.12.04 05:52:00 - [2] - Quote MPX Shad wrote: Not sure how standings will start or how/if standings can be earn outside of FW, but keep in mind the standings can hit on a corp level. Also if you TK and drop standings, you might end up in a No mans land due to the fact you may not having enough standing with the other side to get back in. Therefore locking yourself out FW all together. I say enjoy being on the outside looking in Awe, my throwaway alt character on my separate and infinite supply of free accounts with passive sp rolling is so sad. This is going to be like opening a fine wine. Let characters cook off month after month just to pop them out and blow it all in one session. YAY! Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Watch DUST burn! DESTROY DUST 2014
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 218	Posted - 2013.12.04 05:56:00 - [3] - Quote Its only a one day ban Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Fear is a choice, I choose not to let it control me.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 286	Posted - 2013.12.04 05:56:00 - [4] - Quote MPX Shad wrote: Not sure how standings will start or how/if standings can be earn outside of FW, but keep in mind the standings can hit on a corp level. Also if you TK and drop standings, you might end up in a No mans land due to the fact you may not having enough standing with the other side to get back in. Therefore locking yourself out FW all together. I say enjoy being on the outside looking in If your standings is reduced to zero, you're locked out... for 24 hours. No more. Names of playstyles
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4839	Posted - 2013.12.04 05:59:00 - [5] - Quote Tbh, you'd do much more damage protostomping the enemy team in a match than you would logging an alt to pop a few blueberries, then waiting 24 hours. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 286	Posted - 2013.12.04 06:02:00 - [6] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Tbh, you'd do much more damage protostomping the enemy team in a match than you would logging an alt to pop a few blueberries, then waiting 24 hours. I'll still enjoy killing those people who go around in circles on the MCC and the ones who farm WP's by picking up people multiple times while under fire. Names of playstyles
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1400	Posted - 2013.12.04 06:37:00 - [7] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Tbh, you'd do much more damage protostomping the enemy team in a match than you would logging an alt to pop a few blueberries, then waiting 24 hours. that's people like us, not people like them. there is obviously a difference, and if nothing else FW has made that obvious.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 398	Posted - 2013.12.04 06:54:00 - [8] - Quote MPX Shad wrote: Not sure how standings will start or how/if standings can be earn outside of FW, but keep in mind the standings can hit on a corp level. Also if you TK and drop standings, you might end up in a No mans land due to the fact you may not having enough standing with the other side to get back in. Therefore locking yourself out FW all together. I say enjoy being on the outside looking in Ok...so then what's your answer to the issue, just not play? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this closer to how EVE works? It's risk vs reward. The Devs already indicated that there is a mechanic to let you gain enough standings back to continue to participate.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 554	Posted - 2013.12.04 07:08:00 - [9] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Tbh, you'd do much more damage protostomping the enemy team in a match than you would logging an alt to pop a few blueberries, then waiting 24 hours. That's why you devise crafty ways to get your teammates to inadvertently kill you. Jump on a blue grenade, run in front of a blue heavy machine gunner, respawn and enter into a melee sparing match as a 77 armor hp militia Minmatar scout with prior mentioned heavy. All works just as effectively. A rage or force quit here can be equally as effective to a pubstomp. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
MPX Shad Multiplex Gaming Li3 Federation 53	Posted - 2013.12.04 07:47:00 - [10] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: MPX Shad wrote: Not sure how standings will start or how/if standings can be earn outside of FW, but keep in mind the standings can hit on a corp level. Also if you TK and drop standings, you might end up in a No mans land due to the fact you may not having enough standing with the other side to get back in. Therefore locking yourself out FW all together. I say enjoy being on the outside looking in Ok...so then what's your answer to the issue, just not play? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this closer to how EVE works? It's risk vs reward. The Devs already indicated that there is a mechanic to let you gain enough standings back to continue to participate. I'm speaking to those that want to hop on the TK bandwagon. Not looking to fix anything on it. Im not sure what post your replys for. Does not look like mine Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE & MPXPrimetime

VAHZZ Gallente Federation 393	Posted - 2013.12.04 07:48:00 - [11] - Quote The title of this thread is misleading The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! - and trolling ~ Proud Sniper Scout
MPX Shad Multiplex Gaming Li3 Federation 53	Posted - 2013.12.04 07:57:00 - [12] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Tbh, you'd do much more damage protostomping the enemy team in a match than you would logging an alt to pop a few blueberries, then waiting 24 hours. That's why you devise crafty ways to get your teammates to inadvertently kill you. Jump on a blue grenade, run in front of a blue heavy machine gunner, respawn and enter into a melee sparing match as a 77 armor hp militia Minmatar scout with prior mentioned heavy. All works just as effectively. A rage or force quit here can be equally as effective to a pubstomp. Now see I'd be more worried of this then some dude turning and doing a spray and pray on his team Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE & MPXPrimetime
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 432	Posted - 2013.12.06 17:58:00 - [13] - Quote MPX Shad wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: MPX Shad wrote: Not sure how standings will start or how/if standings can be earn outside of FW, but keep in mind the standings can hit on a corp level. Also if you TK and drop standings, you might end up in a No mans land due to the fact you may not having enough standing with the other side to get back in. Therefore locking yourself out FW all together. I say enjoy being on the outside looking in Ok...so then what's your answer to the issue, just not play? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this closer to how EVE works? It's risk vs reward. The Devs already indicated that there is a mechanic to let you gain enough standings back to continue to participate. I'm speaking to those that want to hop on the TK bandwagon. Not looking to fix anything on it. Im not sure what post your replys for. Does not look like mine Ok, I probably wasn't clear. I took your comment about "outside looking in" to mean you were sitting out FW. My second comment probably could have been clearer...CCP FoxFour answered your "no man's land" question directly...you regain baseline faction standings overtime so you can't be in a "No Man's Land". On related note I caught your #161 Podside...that was a pretty big patch for Dust and you breezed over it ( you sounded like hell, hope you shook the flu). I was hoping for some additional discusion from you guys on how this is / isn't a solid step in the direction of EVE / DUST integration or overall quality of the game.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2109	Posted - 2013.12.06 18:02:00 - [14] - Quote MPX Shad wrote: Not sure how standings will start or how/if standings can be earn outside of FW, but keep in mind the standings can hit on a corp level. Also if you TK and drop standings, you might end up in a No mans land due to the fact you may not having enough standing with the other side to get back in. So along with a 24hr ban you maybe locking yourself out FW all together. I say enjoy being on the outside looking in Edit: This isn't the first FPS with ff, but might be the one with the most negative actions Either I'm not understanding you or you have a misconception about how FW 2.0 works in DUST. 1. Everything I read points towards not being able to go negative to any faction. 2. Your standings don't affect your corp. Just the four NPC FW corporations. 3. The lock-out until down time is the worst penalty you can accrue and then you start again. // Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 432	Posted - 2013.12.06 18:06:00 - [15] - Quote Shad... Ref. the No Mans Land discussion, awoxing, and concerns of the Podside crew that it crimped some of the Meta aspects.... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=125759&find=unread Kirk has a nice advertisment that I suspect will get some business. Probably the way of the future. Also, your Faction Standings effects the amount of damage you can do before being kicked in a match. I think this actually puts a premium on high level meta play. If you are a "trusted" asset with moderately high FW standings you have to pic your shot for when you turn the tables. At the higher standing levels you can kill 10-12 guys before kick. That can be pretty devastating if you know what your are doing. Yes...it would create a big faction standings hit and again, it's risk vs. reward. If you are a junior or relatively unproven asset your leash is shorter (lower number of kills before kick) and then you have a cooling off period before the Faction might bring you on for another contract. Actually works pretty well.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 432	Posted - 2013.12.06 18:07:00 - [16] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: MPX Shad wrote: Not sure how standings will start or how/if standings can be earn outside of FW, but keep in mind the standings can hit on a corp level. Also if you TK and drop standings, you might end up in a No mans land due to the fact you may not having enough standing with the other side to get back in. So along with a 24hr ban you maybe locking yourself out FW all together. I say enjoy being on the outside looking in Edit: This isn't the first FPS with ff, but might be the one with the most negative actions Either I'm not understanding you or you have a misconception about how FW 2.0 works in DUST. 1. Everything I read points towards not being able to go negative to any faction. 2. Your standings don't affect your corp. Just the four NPC FW corporations. 3. The lock-out until down time is the worst penalty you can accrue and then you start again. Spot on, Reav.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2115	Posted - 2013.12.06 19:28:00 - [17] - Quote I just received confirmation from CCP FoxFour that you can't go negative in faction standings. My EVE pilot is so hated by the Amarr that he'd have to join an Amarr oriented FW corp and then do a huge grind to recover. It's pretty clear that they wanted to avoid that here, which is a good thing. // Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana


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