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          Zekain K 
          Expert Intervention Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 03:46:00 -
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          Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.
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          Pokey Dravon 
          OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 03:48:00 -
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          I think you misunderstand. Team killing just reduces standings, when standings get too low, THEN you get banned. So as long as you're a good upstanding member of FW, you'll have built up enough standing to have a few accidental TKs and not suffer for it.
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          True Adamance 
          Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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          Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  
  Nope.
  If it were me a loss of standing with a faction into the negative would require hours of grinding or copious amounts of ISK to repair.
  Consequence mate.
  I don't care how short the attention span of a console player is they do not deserve to get away with wasting time and resources and get a 30min yellow card.
 
 
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          Zekain K 
          Expert Intervention Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 03:50:00 -
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          True Adamance wrote:Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  Nope. If it were me a loss of standing with a faction into the negative would require hours of grinding or copious amounts of ISK to repair. Consequence mate. I don't care how short the attention span of a console player is they do not deserve to get away with wasting time and resources and get a 30min yellow card.   But griefers can?
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          John Demonsbane 
          Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 03:51:00 -
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          True Adamance wrote:Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  Nope. If it were me a loss of standing with a faction into the negative would require hours of grinding or copious amounts of ISK to repair. Consequence mate. I don't care how short the attention span of a console player is they do not deserve to get away with wasting time and resources and get a 30min yellow card.  
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          Roger Cordill 
          The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 03:51:00 -
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          No.
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          Kazeno Rannaa 
          BIG BAD W0LVES
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 04:08:00 -
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          Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  
  I actual think it may be a good way of acting as a deterrent top grievers. Kind of like putting a child in the corner and telling them to take a time out. They are acting like kids you know. That is if the are team killing for the sake of briefing someone.
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          Toby Flenderson 
          research lab
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 04:12:00 -
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          Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  
  Wouldn't we want FW to lose the players that kill their own teammates? It doesn't seem that hard to not kill your teammates unless you spam explosives or pack into hallways with ARs. | 
      
      
      
          
          Operative 1171 Aajli 
          Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 04:20:00 -
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          Toby Flenderson wrote:Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  Wouldn't we want FW to lose the players that kill their own teammates? It doesn't seem that hard to not kill your teammates unless you spam explosives or pack into hallways with ARs.  
  You can't stop people form getting in your way of your gun and your explosives. You will get a hit every time they die and they clicky the punish button.
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          Doc Noah 
          Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 04:25:00 -
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          They should have a "boot" option, if someone jumps in front of your gun you can press the boot button and you'll take out your foot and sparta kick them out of the way. | 
      
      
      
          
          Dovallis Martan JenusKoll 
          Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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          Pokey Dravon wrote:I think you misunderstand. Team killing just reduces standings, when standings get too low, THEN you get banned. So as long as you're a good upstanding member of FW, you'll have built up enough standing to have a few accidental TKs and not suffer for it.   
  Nope, according to the page, kicks from the game will occur if you deal too much damage to allied players. Don't have to kill them. Damage dealt will accumulate and finally kick a player once the cap has been reached... or something like that.
 If you can read this, it means you are reading.  
Unless you are skimming 
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          Iron Wolf Saber 
          Den of Swords
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 04:31:00 -
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          You do realize that on one alt and the time length of the fights means I only need one account to rotationally troll.
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          Zekain K 
          Expert Intervention Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 04:37:00 -
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          Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You do realize that on one alt and the time length of the fights means I only need one account to rotationally troll.    Then you suspend the account , and not the individual characters.
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          Toby Flenderson 
          research lab
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 04:57:00 -
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          Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  Wouldn't we want FW to lose the players that kill their own teammates? It doesn't seem that hard to not kill your teammates unless you spam explosives or pack into hallways with ARs.  You can't stop people form getting in your way of your gun and your explosives. You will get a hit every time they die and they clicky the punish button.  
  I don't know, maybe I've already developed a habit of avoiding shooting through teammates to save ammo. It's not hard, and if they pass through your line of fire, just stop firing. Explosives are fine too, just don't spam grenades or mass drivers. Use them tactically. | 
      
      
      
          
          Maken Tosch 
          DUST University Ivy League
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 05:31:00 -
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          Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  
  This will just make it easier for the trolls who are ACTUALLY going out of their way to intentionally team kill you. I say no to your suggestion and I vote to keep the incoming setup for FW 2.0.
 CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7. 
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          Himiko Kuronaga 
          Fatal Absolution
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 05:40:00 -
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          Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  
 
  Or it will cost them almost no one, because not everyone is that unreasonably stupid. | 
      
      
      
          
          deepfried salad gilliam 
          Sanguine Knights
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 05:52:00 -
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          I honestly think it should be worse Everytome you get banned you should get a mark then be banned 1 day for each mark every week you have 1 mark removed
 Christ is lord 
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          Shion Typhon 
          Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 07:32:00 -
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          Toby Flenderson wrote:Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  Wouldn't we want FW to lose the players that kill their own teammates? It doesn't seem that hard to not kill your teammates unless you spam explosives or pack into hallways with ARs.  
  Go and play PS2 and realise how easy it is to teamkill by accident.
  You're ADSing down a hallway at head height (because you know, you want headshots) and a moron team mate bounces in front of you to get in a shot. Bam, 100% of your stream of bullets enters his head at 0m and he dies before you can even react and take your finger off the trigger. Happens to everyone a couple of times a day in PS2. | 
      
      
      
          
          MINA Longstrike 
          2Shitz 1Giggle
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 07:42:00 -
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          Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  
  It's not a ban from the game, it's a 1day ban from the game mode. Teamkill people too often and you're kicked from the match and given a 1day suspension from fw contracts.
  Though I am tempted to grind up to high faction warfare standing, wait for an ally to call a vehicle in, shoot them with a shotgun then go joyriding in the free ride. | 
      
      
      
          
          Rei Shepard 
          The Rainbow Effect
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 07:43:00 -
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          Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  Wouldn't we want FW to lose the players that kill their own teammates? It doesn't seem that hard to not kill your teammates unless you spam explosives or pack into hallways with ARs.  You can't stop people form getting in your way of your gun and your explosives. You will get a hit every time they die and they clicky the punish button.  
  Guess FW will be mostly Explosive free then, can't wait to play that ....
  If you can't play without hurting teamates because you are an explosives spammer, maybe FW isnt something for you ...theres still regular contracts to be played, not like it changes anything for you....
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          Protected Void 
          Endless Hatred
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 09:41:00 -
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          Zekain K wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You do realize that on one alt and the time length of the fights means I only need one account to rotationally troll.   Then you suspend the account , and not the individual characters.    ...and then the troll creates a second account on his PS3. It takes 5 minutes - at the most. | 
      
      
      
          
          Your Absolut End 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.12.04 10:27:00 -
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          Zekain K wrote:Instead of vanning a team killer from the game, suspend him for 15-30 minutes instead. Also decrease their standings. Locking someone out of fw for the whole day is stupid, and will likely cost you quite a few players.  
 
  they are only bannes for the faction they harmed.
  I dont think its too much, rather to less, If you spot the forums we got enough trolls in NE
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