Zahle Undt
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.05 01:09:00 -
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The greatest myth about protostomping is that it is the gear that makes the difference when in fact it is the fact that many people (myself included) only run proto when with squads of corp or alliance mates. it is the organized squads that make the difference not the gear so much. Also, most people I know that have proto gear also have their core skills and weapon skills maxed, simply put we are higher level in this game because we have been playing it longer...welcome to an RPG hybrid. The final myth is that proto gear is godly compared to everything else, this is a fallacy in many cases, I know my assault Mk. 0 has about a whole 100 more EHP than my advanced suit and a Ishukone SMG over the advanced assault SMG. Slight advantages but hardly worth all the tears and whining on these forums.
Proto gear is just the easiest excuse why one loses instead of the real culprits of a better team on the other side, better team work (I.E. they're squaded and I wasn't), or actually admitting that (GASP) someone is better at the game than me.
And before anyone gets mad at me I rarely use proto in pubs because I am a cheap S.O.B. and I am average at best at Dust despite being a closed beta vet. Oh and back in closed beta we used to get stomped on by Imperfect squads every other match because it was a tighter knit community with fewer corps etc....
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Zahle Undt
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
500
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Posted - 2013.12.05 03:32:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:The greatest myth about protostomping is that it is the gear that makes the difference when in fact it is the fact that many people (myself included) only run proto when with squads of corp or alliance mates. it is the organized squads that make the difference not the gear so much. Also, most people I know that have proto gear also have their core skills and weapon skills maxed, simply put we are higher level in this game because we have been playing it longer...welcome to an RPG hybrid. The final myth is that proto gear is godly compared to everything else, this is a fallacy in many cases, I know my assault Mk. 0 has about a whole 100 more EHP than my advanced suit and a Ishukone SMG over the advanced assault SMG. Slight advantages but hardly worth all the tears and whining on these forums.
Proto gear is just the easiest excuse why one loses instead of the real culprits of a better team on the other side, better team work (I.E. they're squaded and I wasn't), or actually admitting that (GASP) someone is better at the game than me.
And before anyone gets mad at me I rarely use proto in pubs because I am a cheap S.O.B. and I am average at best at Dust despite being a closed beta vet. Oh and back in closed beta we used to get stomped on by Imperfect squads every other match because it was a tighter knit community with fewer corps etc....
I understand this, but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Keep proto gear out of pubs, that's all I'm asking. I avoid public matches so that I CAN use proto without feeling guilty, or because of this. Trust me, I'm not crying for myself, but the newcomers. I love RPGs, but a lot of people are used to FPS, not RPG.
Oh I agree with you, but even if we somehow got all of us who visit the forums on at least a weekly basis to come to a gentlemen's agreement to not run proto in pubs...it would still happen. It would happen because many of the people who play never come to the forums, it would happen because people are generally selfish. It is going to always happen and this game will not be newcomer friendly or grow it's player base significantly until there is PvE. I honestly can not fathom how CCP could call this game released and think they could have success with DUST514 without something to do besides fight pub matches to grind.
And if we think it is bad now, if people have nearly limitless ISK from PC now, imagine what is going to happen to newberries when there is an economic connection to Eve and corporations and the players that belong to it really have limitless ISK, you know, because in EVE there is stuff to do other than PvP.
I have been on and on about PvE since release day and I know I'm a broken record, but I really think it is important to having a healthy Dust ecosystem and last time IWS shared some info on it I believe he said it was back burner or on the shelf as far as development goes and IMHO that is ass backwards thinking from CCP
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