DUST Search - CCP"S Priorities???? CPM InsertCoinHere speaks out!!

Daxxis KANNAH wrote:

Moorian Flav wrote:

I've fought in PC matches with and without equipment spam. With equipment spam, we are seeing the results shown in numerous videos where PC appears to be unplayable. Without equipment spam, there is a very little cut to frame rate and runs pretty normally (beyond some OBs). So is the real problem with PC performance overall horrible lag or equipment purposely being spammed by players to bog down matches? If you have a logical thought process, you should see the true problem is equipment spam. Funny enough, it has been requested multiple times that number of active equipment per team has a limit similar to how number of vehicles have a limit per team. Funnier still, the seemingly easy fix of limiting active equipment to increase performance has been shot down every time by the community itself.
TL;DR: Lag problem due to exploit. Have way to eliminate exploit where lag will be decreased. Majority of community favors to keep exploit while also keeping lag then complains about the persisting lag. Roll

Bravo sir - the amount of people I have seen claim this is some great tactic to be used like they are some brilliant tactical commander is laughable.

There definitely should be a limit to what you can put down but also a proximity sensor if feasible.
- Placing equipment to close to another one should cause them to fail.

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InsertCoinHere Pradox One Proficiency V. 133	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:26:00 - [1] - Quote Ok lets see, I 've just recieved news that the new FW gamemode has been revamped and is going to make regular proto pubstomping increase 500% which is great news fro pubstompers everywhere. So here it is..... Why all this time and effort in FW CCP when the best gamemode out there PC, which pays the most and gives 50% salvage back has been ignored? People have literally beggged for you guys to work on this, many good players have quit the game due to the lag in PC's that have been ignored over and over by you guys. And all for what, FW? Are you fking kidding me? So as a new self appointed CPM, I am asking you for the people of the community, FIX THE LAG IN PC, get your priorities straight CCP. FW is a joke now, you will all see, while PC batts continue to lag for being ignored by CCP. Pub matches will now be massacres beyond anyone's imagination. (Gonna be great lol) Speaking for the people CCP,, Newly self appointed CPM INsertCoinHere out Balls Deep!!!
ReGnYuM 1409	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:28:00 - [2] - Quote I support this new CPM member! If you never heard of ReGnYuM, you're neither Good or Relevant in Dust 514. KDR>ALL Sig Move: Figure 8 of Death
M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 307	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:29:00 - [3] - Quote If PC still lags in 1.7, CCP get the tittle for the biggest incompetent developers known to the game industry... Oh and if kb/m is still broken. .
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 375	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:36:00 - [4] - Quote Never miss an opportunity to complain. Who voted for yo....oh yeah no one. Maybe this means proto stompers will fight other proto stompers more often? Meaning it will be much harder because you won't just be going up against people in standard suits. Just a thought.
InsertCoinHere Pradox One Proficiency V. 134	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:15:00 - [5] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Never miss an opportunity to complain. Who voted for yo....oh yeah no one. Maybe this means proto stompers will fight other proto stompers more often? Meaning it will be much harder because you won't just be going up against people in standard suits. Just a thought. LOL, you are about as smart as your name. I am self appointed bro, I don't need votes, or care if anyone approves of me being CPM. I made myself CPM because someone has to speak up for the ppl PVT Numnutz, love the name btw. And just wait till this update hits, oh the Pubstomp horror stories that will be told, It's gonna be like hunger games when everyone jumps out the MCC in proto gear wahahahahaha. newly selp appointed CPM InsertCoinHere out! Balls Deep!!!
Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 267	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:19:00 - [6] - Quote InsertCoinHere wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Never miss an opportunity to complain. Who voted for yo....oh yeah no one. Maybe this means proto stompers will fight other proto stompers more often? Meaning it will be much harder because you won't just be going up against people in standard suits. Just a thought. LOL, you are about as smart as your name. I am self appointed bro, I don't need votes, or care if anyone approves of me being CPM. I made myself CPM because someone has to speak up for the ppl PVT Numnutz, love the name btw. And just wait till this update hits, oh the Pubstomp horror stories that will be told, It's gonna be like hunger games when everyone jumps out the MCC in proto gear wahahahahaha. newly selp appointed CPM InsertCoinHere out! So glad you don't speak for me. Besides PC is for a tiny part of dust players. Majority play pubs and FW. Bye bye. Forged again? Your welcome.
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 259	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:21:00 - [7] - Quote Pub=/=FW so yeah guess you are mistaking fw with pub here. People will run pubs in low end gear to earn money they will spend and lose in fw, if you cant see this you only can be a self-declared king. And with self-declared king we all know what I mean.... another one bites the Dust...
Ripley Riley 105	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:22:00 - [8] - Quote I don't see a CPM tag by your portrait. Until I do you are just pissing in the wind. No paid respecs without massive SP penalties.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1833	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:24:00 - [9] - Quote How many people participate in PC? How many people participate in FW? Calling yourself CPM just makes you look stupid... just say you speak on behalf of the PX1 or Prof V because you lack a white tag. Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 259	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:25:00 - [10] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: I don't see a CPM tag by your portrait. Until I do you are just pissing in the wind. lol nice! See? self-declared kings always fail because 100% of the time they are just dipshits asking for attention another one bites the Dust...

God Hates Lags Red Star. EoN. 512	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:28:00 - [11] - Quote InsertCoinHere wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Never miss an opportunity to complain. Who voted for yo....oh yeah no one. Maybe this means proto stompers will fight other proto stompers more often? Meaning it will be much harder because you won't just be going up against people in standard suits. Just a thought. LOL, you are about as smart as your name. I am self appointed bro, I don't need votes, or care if anyone approves of me being CPM. I made myself CPM because someone has to speak up for the ppl PVT Numnutz, love the name btw. And just wait till this update hits, oh the Pubstomp horror stories that will be told, It's gonna be like hunger games when everyone jumps out the MCC in proto gear wahahahahaha. newly selp appointed CPM InsertCoinHere out! I'm self appointing myself a CCP DEV and revoking your title to CPM. And before you try I've also self appointed myself CEO of CCP. Doubles ISK
Altessan Vigarde Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 84	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:35:00 - [12] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: ReG or SoTa could and still can get away with ** like this because they're them... ReG and SoTa don't have to pull ** like this because they're them. Self appointing themselves CPM would just trivialize their forum status.
InsertCoinHere Pradox One Proficiency V. 135	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:38:00 - [13] - Quote Altessan Vigarde wrote: Killar-12 wrote: ReG or SoTa could and still can get away with ** like this because they're them... ReG and SoTa don't have to pull ** like this because they're them. Self appointing themselves CPM would just trivialize their forum status. It is so funny how easy it is to get ppl riled up on here lol. I'm just sitting back lmao at all your replies, CPM InsertCoinHere out! Balls Deep!!!
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1833	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:40:00 - [14] - Quote InsertCoinHere wrote: Altessan Vigarde wrote: Killar-12 wrote: ReG or SoTa could and still can get away with ** like this because they're them... ReG and SoTa don't have to pull ** like this because they're them. Self appointing themselves CPM would just trivialize their forum status. It is so funny how easy it is to get ppl riled up on here lol. I'm just sitting back lmao at all your replies, CPM InsertCoinHere out! look you're a sad person you certainly don't use logic or common sense Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity
InsertCoinHere Pradox One Proficiency V. 135	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:40:00 - [15] - Quote God Hates Lags wrote: InsertCoinHere wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Never miss an opportunity to complain. Who voted for yo....oh yeah no one. Maybe this means proto stompers will fight other proto stompers more often? Meaning it will be much harder because you won't just be going up against people in standard suits. Just a thought. LOL, you are about as smart as your name. I am self appointed bro, I don't need votes, or care if anyone approves of me being CPM. I made myself CPM because someone has to speak up for the ppl PVT Numnutz, love the name btw. And just wait till this update hits, oh the Pubstomp horror stories that will be told, It's gonna be like hunger games when everyone jumps out the MCC in proto gear wahahahahaha. newly selp appointed CPM InsertCoinHere out! I'm self appointing myself a CCP DEV and revoking your title to CPM. And before you try I've also self appointed myself CEO of CCP. I have just reappointed myself to CEO after core nading you in your quarters, I am back to CPM InsertCoinHere now, ty Coin out! Balls Deep!!!
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 106	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:51:00 - [16] - Quote InsertCoinHere wrote: Ok lets see, I 've just recieved news that the new FW gamemode has been revamped and is going to make regular proto pubstomping increase 500% which is great news fro pubstompers everywhere. So here it is..... Why all this time and effort in FW CCP when the best gamemode out there PC, which pays the most and gives 50% salvage back has been ignored? People have literally beggged for you guys to work on this, many good players have quit the game due to the lag in PC's that have been ignored over and over by you guys. And all for what, FW? Are you fking kidding me? So as a new self appointed CPM, I am asking you for the people of the community, FIX THE LAG IN PC, get your priorities straight CCP. FW is a joke now, you will all see, while PC batts continue to lag for being ignored by CCP. Pub matches will now be massacres beyond anyone's imagination. (Gonna be great lol) Speaking for the people CCP,, Newly self appointed CPM INsertCoinHere out They fixed FW because it needed it. And you missed the entire part when the EVe to FW links that got fixed by FW are gonna pay dividends in PC also. PC is meant to be driven and run by player control and input. It's up to the alliances to push and control the direction that takes, not the devs. (Although they already stated that they will be using it to provide more stuff for EVE later on.) I agree that lag needs fixing, but that is a more difficult monster to tackle than you think and everytime a new "core" part of the game is added, it returns. They need to fix core first, then when taht dust settles they can "tweak" to get rid of the lag. Just the nature of the beast. PC isn't the "best gamemode out there" and neither is FW or pub matches. They all provide a different playstyle and a different goal. Just as in EVE you can be in 0.0 alliance warfare (PC in DUST), faction warfare (hey same name in both games), or pub matches (high sec NPC mission runner in EVE). People will claim that one mode is better than the rest and it may be true for them, but not everyone is the same. I agree that pub matches will continue to be "stomped on" by FW team players. Team play is supposed to beat solo play. I believe that instead of just having team-play for just FW, CCP needs to also include it for public matches to balance this out or the stomping will continue. Sometimes I wish some of you could really get a taste for the "behind the scenes" responsibility the CSM or CPM has to go through and the real life consequences it brings. A lot of you would become overwhelmed, not understand, and make even more mistakes.
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 484	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:57:00 - [17] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: Pub=/=FW so yeah guess you are mistaking fw with pub here. People will run pubs in low end gear to earn money they will spend and lose in fw, if you cant see this you only can be a self-declared king. And with self-declared king we all know what I mean.... Squad finder - they will jump in games in bpo's or adv gear with proto level damage through proficiency and will wreck people to make ISK. Then they will go back to FW. I think it will be close to what OP is proclaiming, I would happily be proved wrong but CCP's odds so far ....not good.
Moorian Flav Ectype Inc. 99	Posted - 2013.12.03 21:03:00 - [18] - Quote I've fought in PC matches with and without equipment spam. With equipment spam, we are seeing the results shown in numerous videos where PC appears to be unplayable. Without equipment spam, there is a very little cut to frame rate and runs pretty normally (beyond some OBs). So is the real problem with PC performance overall horrible lag or equipment purposely being spammed by players to bog down matches? If you have a logical thought process, you should see the true problem is equipment spam. Funny enough, it has been requested multiple times that number of equipment per team has a limit similar to how number of vehicles have a limit per team. Funnier still, the seemingly easy fix of limiting active equipment has been shot down every time by the community itself.
Assert Dominance 0bamacare 523	Posted - 2013.12.03 21:09:00 - [19] - Quote Fact: 90% of dust will never see the light of day in PC Fact: most people quit this game due to utter confusion stepping out of graduation, not PC i agree in terms of PC needs some serious tender love and care, but we are a minority. also its good that ccp is building a stronger relationship between dust and eve, which has been long overdue. PC 2.0 will get its shine, but ccp has to appeal to the masses (lol4k) first before us. i dont mind isk farm and smashing pubs anyway tbh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g < 1.7 leak!
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 484	Posted - 2013.12.03 21:17:00 - [20] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: I've fought in PC matches with and without equipment spam. With equipment spam, we are seeing the results shown in numerous videos where PC appears to be unplayable. Without equipment spam, there is a very little cut to frame rate and runs pretty normally (beyond some OBs). So is the real problem with PC performance overall horrible lag or equipment purposely being spammed by players to bog down matches? If you have a logical thought process, you should see the true problem is equipment spam. Funny enough, it has been requested multiple times that number of active equipment per team has a limit similar to how number of vehicles have a limit per team. Funnier still, the seemingly easy fix of limiting active equipment to increase performance has been shot down every time by the community itself. TL;DR: Lag problem due to exploit. Have way to eliminate exploit where lag will be decreased. Majority of community favors to keep exploit while also keeping lag then complains about the persisting lag. Bravo sir - the amount of people I have seen claim this is some great tactic to be used like they are some brilliant tactical commander is laughable. There definitely should be a limit to what you can put down but also a proximity sensor if feasible. - Placing equipment to close to another one should cause them to fail.

CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 398	Posted - 2013.12.03 21:25:00 - [21] - Quote InsertCoinHere wrote: Ok lets see, I 've just recieved news that the new FW gamemode has been revamped and is going to make regular proto pubstomping increase 500% which is great news fro pubstompers everywhere. So here it is..... Why all this time and effort in FW CCP when the best gamemode out there PC, which pays the most and gives 50% salvage back has been ignored? People have literally beggged for you guys to work on this, many good players have quit the game due to the lag in PC's that have been ignored over and over by you guys. And all for what, FW? Are you fking kidding me? So as a new self appointed CPM, I am asking you for the people of the community, FIX THE LAG IN PC, get your priorities straight CCP. FW is a joke now, you will all see, while PC batts continue to lag for being ignored by CCP. Pub matches will now be massacres beyond anyone's imagination. (Gonna be great lol) Speaking for the people CCP,, Newly self appointed CPM INsertCoinHere out wait for the patch notes! maybe we get a dev blog on PC? i think the point is this. PC was different, broken from what i hear but it's there and it's different. FW was there but pointless and not different. i guess they wanted to get this out the way and hopefully the majority of a future patch (1.8?) revolves around PC. I couldn't care less about playing PC but I don't want ANYONE to quit DUST.
CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 398	Posted - 2013.12.03 21:28:00 - [22] - Quote i thought id' add PC is a ******* crap-shoot. you'll be lucky to spawn. the lag and roof-camping was bad enough but I had to reset my PS3 because I couldn't spawn! I'd like to see major changes in the game across the board to benefit all game modes. the textures are still... really bad. you need to stop getting stuck on stuff, terrain traversal needs to be easier, it feels like you're trying to glitch on the outside of the map and get into some pixel of a nook but you're not, you're just walking around normally.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 377	Posted - 2013.12.03 21:34:00 - [23] - Quote InsertCoinHere wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Never miss an opportunity to complain. Who voted for yo....oh yeah no one. Maybe this means proto stompers will fight other proto stompers more often? Meaning it will be much harder because you won't just be going up against people in standard suits. Just a thought. LOL, you are about as smart as your name. I am self appointed bro, I don't need votes, or care if anyone approves of me being CPM. I made myself CPM because someone has to speak up for the ppl PVT Numnutz, love the name btw. And just wait till this update hits, oh the Pubstomp horror stories that will be told, It's gonna be like hunger games when everyone jumps out the MCC in proto gear wahahahahaha. newly selp appointed CPM InsertCoinHere out! Meh, what ever just a thought. More blood for the blood god!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8265	Posted - 2013.12.03 21:35:00 - [24] - Quote Impersonating a CCP member is against forum rules, not sure where CPM falls into that. Win ISK / Vids / O7
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1137	Posted - 2013.12.03 21:40:00 - [25] - Quote InsertCoinHere wrote: Ok lets see, I 've just recieved news that the new FW gamemode has been revamped and is going to make regular proto pubstomping increase 500% which is great news fro pubstompers everywhere. So here it is..... Why all this time and effort in FW CCP when the best gamemode out there PC, which pays the most and gives 50% salvage back has been ignored? People have literally beggged for you guys to work on this, many good players have quit the game due to the lag in PC's that have been ignored over and over by you guys. And all for what, FW? Are you fking kidding me? So as a new self appointed CPM, I am asking you for the people of the community, FIX THE LAG IN PC, get your priorities straight CCP. FW is a joke now, you will all see, while PC batts continue to lag for being ignored by CCP. Pub matches will now be massacres beyond anyone's imagination. (Gonna be great lol) Speaking for the people CCP,, Newly self appointed CPM INsertCoinHere out There is only one problem: Only some few hardcore players care about PC. Many Dust players will never see a PC battle. Because of this it's important that FW is fun. Because this is something everybody can participate in without having to be in a corp.
BMSTUBBY 370	Posted - 2013.12.03 21:48:00 - [26] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Never miss an opportunity to complain. Who voted for yo....oh yeah no one. Who voted for the current monkey on CCP strings? PC = LOL 16 v 16 and still lags and is broke as hell. FW = Meh better than Pubs. Dusters - MMO WhenGäó ? CCP - MMO SoonGäó .
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 103	Posted - 2013.12.03 21:54:00 - [27] - Quote InsertCoinHere wrote: Ok lets see, I 've just recieved news that the new FW gamemode has been revamped and is going to make regular proto pubstomping increase 500% which is great news fro pubstompers everywhere. So here it is..... Why all this time and effort in FW CCP when the best gamemode out there PC, which pays the most and gives 50% salvage back has been ignored? People have literally beggged for you guys to work on this, many good players have quit the game due to the lag in PC's that have been ignored over and over by you guys. And all for what, FW? Are you fking kidding me? So as a new self appointed CPM, I am asking you for the people of the community, FIX THE LAG IN PC, get your priorities straight CCP. FW is a joke now, you will all see, while PC batts continue to lag for being ignored by CCP. Pub matches will now be massacres beyond anyone's imagination. (Gonna be great lol) Speaking for the people CCP,, Newly self appointed CPM INsertCoinHere out They never stop complaining... CCP have done wonderful job with FC (Faction Contracts, and not warfare, as they are now called - we are mercenaries after all). They will come to PC, don't worry. I support BPO removal and RDV to take your vehicles back
InsertCoinHere Pradox One Proficiency V. 137	Posted - 2013.12.03 21:56:00 - [28] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Impersonating a CCP member is against forum rules, not sure where CPM falls into that. Stfu Balls Deep!!!
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 109	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:04:00 - [29] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Moorian Flav wrote: I've fought in PC matches with and without equipment spam. With equipment spam, we are seeing the results shown in numerous videos where PC appears to be unplayable. Without equipment spam, there is a very little cut to frame rate and runs pretty normally (beyond some OBs). So is the real problem with PC performance overall horrible lag or equipment purposely being spammed by players to bog down matches? If you have a logical thought process, you should see the true problem is equipment spam. Funny enough, it has been requested multiple times that number of active equipment per team has a limit similar to how number of vehicles have a limit per team. Funnier still, the seemingly easy fix of limiting active equipment to increase performance has been shot down every time by the community itself. TL;DR: Lag problem due to exploit. Have way to eliminate exploit where lag will be decreased. Majority of community favors to keep exploit while also keeping lag then complains about the persisting lag. Bravo sir - the amount of people I have seen claim this is some great tactic to be used like they are some brilliant tactical commander is laughable. There definitely should be a limit to what you can put down but also a proximity sensor if feasible. - Placing equipment to close to another one should cause them to fail. I agree that limiting the number of equipment able to be deployed in a match will definitely fix some of the lag... But that is just treating the symptom and not really fixing the problem in the code. They need to pinpoint what it is about the equipment spammage that causes the lag. Because if they don't, then they are doomed to have the issue return in later updates when they try to expand matches to include more things, or players, or whatever. Gotta fix the base, not slap a new coat of paint on it.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1835	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:26:00 - [30] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Impersonating a CCP member is against forum rules, not sure where CPM falls into that. Meh close enough, lock it... Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity

Jason Pearson 3183	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:26:00 - [31] - Quote Because nobody gives a **** about PC, we've been asking for FW fixes and a stronger EVE/DUST link, they're working on it but fact is FW has more players than PC. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Laugh at the idiots crying about four BPOs being removed erryday, lul
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2329	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:36:00 - [32] - Quote Psh! you are a terribad CPM! i have never seen you in any of the meetings with Rouge! /me goes off to create a thread petition to remove insertcoinhere from CPM Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki


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