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Freshticles
DIOS EX. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.03 12:57:00 -
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Na na na na na I'm getting 12m SP back and can fully max out a proto suit and one of the new weapons with all core skills, and you can't because you didn't have SP in vehicles.
Can you see where I'm going with this? Full respec for all!
(PS partial or full respec doesn't make a difference to me I'll just be growing horizontally now instead of vertically. But at least level the playing field for the less fortunate.)
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1375
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Posted - 2013.12.03 12:59:00 -
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Don't bother, CCP doesn't use logic.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.03 13:01:00 -
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3 new proto suits and 2 new proto weaopns with full core skills in infantry coming my way in 7days time if i choose to take it |
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.12.03 13:05:00 -
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Having proto gear doesn't help the lack of gun game the majority of vehicle users lack.
... Oops.
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1118
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Posted - 2013.12.03 13:09:00 -
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Freshticles wrote:Na na na na na I'm getting 12m SP back and can fully max out a proto suit and one of the new weapons with all core skills, and you can't because you didn't have SP in vehicles.
Can you see where I'm going with this? Full respec for all!
(PS partial or full respec doesn't make a difference to me I'll just be growing horizontally now instead of vertically. But at least level the playing field for the less fortunate.)
I don't care, I've already got my SP in infantry, the fact I spent it makes no difference. i probably would've put in all the same places anyway.
The pen is mightier than the sword
The gun is mightier than both
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.03 13:18:00 -
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A full SP refund is needed every patch until there is more module and dropsuit diversity, because we lack the module and dropsuit diversity that EVE skills has. This or reduce the SP cost in general, and increase it later when there is more gained when putting SP into a skill.
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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Freshticles
DIOS EX. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.03 13:51:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Having proto gear doesn't help the lack of gun game the majority of vehicle users lack.
... Oops. Implying I'm part of this majority.
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Fire9er Greko
Imperfect Bastards
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Posted - 2013.12.03 13:54:00 -
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The vehicle users will find their gun game in a couple of weeks and be terrible to fight in a month. It's going to be fun seeing more black yellow and red on the field as everyone buzzes around In what I am guessing to be Amarr assault suits with SCR and Amarr Logis. FOTM?? |
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Freshticles
DIOS EX. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:09:00 -
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Fire9er Greko wrote:The vehicle users will find their gun game in a couple of weeks and be terrible to fight in a month. It's going to be fun seeing more black yellow and red on the field as everyone buzzes around In what I am guessing to be Amarr assault suits with SCR and Amarr Logis. FOTM?? The thing is, none of us have been running vehicles recently. Many like me have resorted to bpos to get them by. If anything, their gun game would have improved. Implying vehicles users are only using them because they can't fight is a fallacy.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:25:00 -
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I agree and really the only people that will really suffer are the newer players
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:26:00 -
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Apparently CPM is pushing for a full respec at least, or at least some of them are.
It's the sensible option.
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:50:00 -
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...errr....
all the people who started training infantry gear when you started training tanks already have that stuff.
New players can't do this obviously. Because they are new. If they were given a full respec now.... they still couldn't.
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
586
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:55:00 -
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Funny how every time respec comes up several morons have to start preaching the FOTM train. The majority of us just want to skill into stuff we couldn't before because it wasn't available. Meanwhile, the tryhards already have SP saved and will spec FOTM anyways. Meh....
The Dust 514 AFK song
Plasma Cannon FTW
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Ninjanomyx
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:58:00 -
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I shoot face with the best of 'em......I just like to Skillshot more (Rail Delay FTW ). I had my OP Bumblebee/Hornet TAC AR days, & I currently Winmatar Gekko my way through waves as I help carry the SL Scrubs to Free OB Kills.....& still come out on top Shame when you need Full Proto Imperial/Duvo, OBs, & Core Locus Nades to try & keep up with a Tanker in an ADV MinLogi with a Gek.....no Nades ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:59:00 -
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Freshticles wrote:Na na na na na I'm getting 12m SP back and can fully max out a proto suit and one of the new weapons with all core skills, and you can't because you didn't have SP in vehicles.
Can you see where I'm going with this? Full respec for all!
(PS partial or full respec doesn't make a difference to me I'll just be growing horizontally now instead of vertically. But at least level the playing field for the less fortunate.)
only 12 million? |
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Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.03 15:09:00 -
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low genius wrote:Freshticles wrote:Na na na na na I'm getting 12m SP back and can fully max out a proto suit and one of the new weapons with all core skills, and you can't because you didn't have SP in vehicles.
Can you see where I'm going with this? Full respec for all!
(PS partial or full respec doesn't make a difference to me I'll just be growing horizontally now instead of vertically. But at least level the playing field for the less fortunate.) only 12 million?
I'm only getting 6,000 something back from Vehicle Command 1.... lol
The Dust 514 AFK song
Plasma Cannon FTW
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.03 20:05:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Having proto gear doesn't help the lack of gun game the majority of vehicle users lack.
... Oops. Our superior minds make up for it.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.03 20:09:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Having proto gear doesn't help the lack of gun game the majority of vehicle users lack.
... Oops. Our superior minds make up for it.
Superior? The meaning changed as of 5 minutes ago?
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.03 20:37:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Having proto gear doesn't help the lack of gun game the majority of vehicle users lack.
... Oops.
I used to think like that a very long time ago.
Till I saw Djinn Soul go from Tanker to Assault and wreck face.
Alot of tankers are intelligent, and ballsy to actually have the battle awareness and aim to roll a tank.
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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Freshticles
DIOS EX. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:07:00 -
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low genius wrote:Freshticles wrote:Na na na na na I'm getting 12m SP back and can fully max out a proto suit and one of the new weapons with all core skills, and you can't because you didn't have SP in vehicles.
Can you see where I'm going with this? Full respec for all!
(PS partial or full respec doesn't make a difference to me I'll just be growing horizontally now instead of vertically. But at least level the playing field for the less fortunate.) only 12 million? Stopped spending when I realised I wasn't getting sh*t for my sp.
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Freshticles
DIOS EX. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:08:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Funny how every time respec comes up several morons have to start preaching the FOTM train. The majority of us just want to skill into stuff we couldn't before because it wasn't available. Meanwhile, the tryhards already have SP saved and will spec FOTM anyways. Meh.... I'm for the respec, not against.
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fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:18:00 -
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Freshticles wrote:Na na na na na I'm getting 12m SP back and can fully max out a proto suit and one of the new weapons with all core skills, and you can't because you didn't have SP in vehicles.
Can you see where I'm going with this? Full respec for all!
(PS partial or full respec doesn't make a difference to me I'll just be growing horizontally now instead of vertically. But at least level the playing field for the less fortunate.) .... eh. makes sense.... +1
Dropship auto leveling and THE SOLUTION
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Neo Hyperthron
DUST University Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:20:00 -
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If you are infantry you are supposed to live with your decisions. Partial respec is fine only if they cant put those points into any other skill tree. It was your choice to skill into vehicles so live with your decisions.
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xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
364
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:38:00 -
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Too much logic. Will never happen. |
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taxi bastard
Minor Trueblood
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:39:00 -
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I want to play 1 faction with only that factions gear.....this is going to be made possible at last. why are we being punished with the games previous lack of content , which forced us into using skill points which are not based on our preferred faction?
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xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
364
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:41:00 -
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taxi bastard wrote:I want to play 1 faction with only that factions gear.....this is going to be made possible at last. why are we being punished with the games previous lack of content , which forced us into using skill points which are not based on our preferred faction?
respec pls.
Was just typing this. Introduce FW LP and no respec ? |
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Orenji Jiji
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:56:00 -
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Freshticles wrote:Na na na na na I'm getting 12m SP back and can fully max out a proto suit and one of the new weapons with all core skills, and you can't because you didn't have SP in vehicles.
Can you see where I'm going with this? Full respec for all!
(PS partial or full respec doesn't make a difference to me I'll just be growing horizontally now instead of vertically. But at least level the playing field for the less fortunate.) So people who put their SP into infantry the first time will have a respec to put it back where it was? Wow, that sounds like it's not pointless at all!
Also good luck getting your gungame now, tanker.
Also I don't believe you. You are a pain in a tin can, so I guess you will go tanks again. 2/10 for effort tho. :)
SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, tank godmode, working NKs. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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Assert Dominance
0bamacare
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:57:00 -
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dont underestimate a tankers gun game. blaster turrets have more recoil than AR's... ive seen tankers go infantry and absolutely destroy.
LOGIC! NO! IT BURRRRNNNSSS!!!!!!
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Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:06:00 -
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Fairness demands a full respect. As others have said, it'd be nice but not deal breaking for 25mil+ SP infantry like me. But it's essential for newer infantry players who, without a respec, are soon going to get stomped by FOTM former tankers. |
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Freshticles
DIOS EX. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:30:00 -
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Orenji Jiji wrote:Freshticles wrote:Na na na na na I'm getting 12m SP back and can fully max out a proto suit and one of the new weapons with all core skills, and you can't because you didn't have SP in vehicles.
Can you see where I'm going with this? Full respec for all!
(PS partial or full respec doesn't make a difference to me I'll just be growing horizontally now instead of vertically. But at least level the playing field for the less fortunate.) So people who put their SP into infantry the first time will have a respec to put it back where it was? Wow, that sounds like it's not pointless at all! Also good luck getting your gungame now, tanker. Also I don't believe you. You are a pain in a tin can, so I guess you will go tanks again. 2/10 for effort tho. :) And here gentlemen and ladylike persons, we see the result of only looking through one point of view. P.S I was infantry in beta :)
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:33:00 -
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I'd probably spend it on the same crap...even if I didn't need some of it.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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