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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.12.02 22:52:00 -
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I basically got proto gear just so I could never use it
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.12.03 15:20:00 -
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taxi bastard wrote:we need gear based battles, then you can proto vs proto and have your fun.
as it stands its shite times for new players. I made an alt, 1 game in academy then into the proto stomp, not fun.
personally I see your attitude as part of the problem, yes it is your right to play that way but its a big problem for new and casual players alike. if you do want to do good then tell CCP that this is perhaps the biggest issue which needs to be tackled next or player retention will suffer.
I have seen some good games die because the developers listen to the vocal few who are not in touch with the majority. I think gear based battles are a horrible idea because they'd be a nightmare to implement, and you'd need all sorts of fits just for different security space.
I think gear based rewards are MUCH better, so the militia noob who just killed a proto gets a TON of ISK and WP for that kill, where as the proto who just stomped that noob gets next to nothing for his efforts.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.12.03 15:38:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:
The players are asking .. and wait for this .. it will blow your mind ... PVE/High sec/low sec where certain levels of gear are restricted OR do SP restricted matches that slightly seperates the players into different bands maybe 500k - 5m sp and 5m sp + get put against each other rather than sticking guys just out of the academy v guys with 30m SP
Anyone remotely new asking for that will deeply regret it if it gets put in. Vets would love it because all their passive skills will make it super easy to stomp on people who can't figure out how your AR does 15% more damage. Gear restrictions favour those with more passive skills. Those people are not the new players.
I personally feel SP based matchmaking with gear based rewards would be the most straight forward solution to this problem. PvE will also help tremendously, but that's still a ways out at best.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.12.03 15:52:00 -
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Personally I just want a 100% solo option that does not allow people to form squads in the match. Free for all or teams, I don't care, just let me work solo against everyone else working solo and no gear advantage will make up for that.
Tricky business this be, I just usually run militia or advanced gear because I'm poor, I like the challenge, and stomping in proto gear is just boring as ****.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:14:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Personally I just want a 100% solo option that does not allow people to form squads in the match. Free for all or teams, I don't care, just let me work solo against everyone else working solo and no gear advantage will make up for that.
Tricky business this be, I just usually run militia or advanced gear because I'm poor, I like the challenge, and stomping in proto gear is just boring as ****. This is a dumb idea. First, you are trying to say that solo play is somehow a superior tactic to teamwork and thus should be rewarded by the game? This is an MMO which inherently means that you went online SPECIFICALLY TO PLAY WITH OTHERS! If you want solo, don't go online. Second, you are taking option and choice of play-style away from players by doing this. Why play in a game where you can choose how to fit your suit etc. when you just force people to your conformity anyways? Why not play COD where the "kit" is already defined for your "role" and be happy there? Here there are no real "roles" there are no forced kits. You play how you like it. If you want to not join a squad and play solo, then go for it. Just understand that your opponent doesn't have to like that and will do whatever they want to.
Why would you queue up for a solo match if you're afraid of playing solo? No one took away your Ambush, Skirmish, Domination, FW and PC
I also said absolutely nothing about gear restriction, I'm not sure where you pulled that from.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:20:00 -
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Bethhy wrote: This is the main problem, people have played MMO's for a good chunk of their gammng history, and understand when you play one you can't come in as a level 20 and murder a level 90.
The FPS players who have played that genre more exclusively don't comprehend that concept well. They think when you join a game with two people and gun's their should be some "even" playing field between the two. That's where alot of the problem stem's with attitude...
No MMO player would expect someone to wear noob gear on a level 90 so the level 20 could have a chance... it would be laughable.
When I started this game i knew this as fact, There will be people with much better skill's and suit's then I and i will have to play differently to compete with them. If you highly specialize into something you max out somewhat quickly and can catch up or gain competitive footing fairly quick.
But the assumption that you should directly compete with Prototype 20m SP players when your right out of Training grounds.. is.. deflating peoples spirit at the general ability to grasp a true MMOFPS concept.
No MMO player would expect someone wearing noob gear to be dropped into a level 90 zone....
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:36:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: No MMO player would expect someone wearing noob gear to be dropped into a level 90 zone....
I would love a game that dose that so much. I feel that games hold your hand too much nowdays. So you would love joining an MMO and never being able to progress because the enemies are statistically superior to you in such a way that you couldn't compete regardless of skill?
I think we have differing opinions on what makes a good MMO....
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Posted - 2013.12.04 15:47:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Personally I just want a 100% solo option that does not allow people to form squads in the match. Free for all or teams, I don't care, just let me work solo against everyone else working solo and no gear advantage will make up for that.
Tricky business this be, I just usually run militia or advanced gear because I'm poor, I like the challenge, and stomping in proto gear is just boring as ****. Ok, so you will still get stomped... Why? Because everyone in a corp will be on corp voice and q-sync for those matches. Not all will make it into the same match, but a lot will and then they will just group up together again. Trying to discourage teamwork in a multi-player game is couter-productive. Instead come up with ways to use team work to your advantage and as a mechanism to help balance the equations. Instead of having matches where you ban squads, instead have matches that require them for example. This will make newbs understand that they need to work together to get anywhere. But you don't have to work together to get anywhere, that's the point. I have what I have from about 90% solo play, and I'm much further ahead than most players.
A solo game type wouldn't be introduced till later, and by then I would imagine we would have team deploy for team games, and a system to help randomize how you enter a solo game, thus preventing queue syncing.
I don't know why you're so adamant about denying others a game type they might enjoy, when it does literally nothing to harm your own enjoyment.
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Posted - 2013.12.04 17:35:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:But you don't have to work together to get anywhere, that's the point. I have what I have from about 90% solo play, and I'm much further ahead than most players.
A solo game type wouldn't be introduced till later, and by then I would imagine we would have team deploy for team games, and a system to help randomize how you enter a solo game, thus preventing queue syncing.
I don't know why you're so adamant about denying others a game type they might enjoy, when it does literally nothing to harm your own enjoyment. i never said that you couldn't join matches solo. I'm only saying that everyone on here that is QQ'ing about being beat all the damn time are trying to fix the symptoms of the problem when they just need to recognize that when they play solo it won't be easy is all. Instead of understanding the difficulties of their CHOICE of play-style, they want to impose their artificially derived play-style onto others. I won''t force you to play in a squad if you don't want to, but don't force me to play solo in an MMO also. How would adding in a solo game type force you to play that game type?
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