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bear90211
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:41:00 -
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just doing ambush with a full squad with proto equipment can get you around 3500WP a match, as I run with full ADV equipment and get around 2000WP an ambush doing no gungames just pure repping and revives, I will soon get my proto rep too, I think that lai dai flux is some OP looking sh!t... as of now most every true logi knows about this way of getting 20K wp an hour easy, so why not do this 24/7? I see no reason not to, yes you may get 20 kills but you only get say 1500wp easy on an ambush in your bumblebee suit of murder, or you can make free WP by repping the killer bees near you getting triple what they get, do you see the logic here?
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
904
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:47:00 -
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Oh I have to jump on this one...
1. I saw you as a Logi in plenty of Ambushes. Your highest score was 800 something.
2. Go figure, Nyain San boys in an Ambush beating up on noobs in starter fits as usual. Bravo. |
bear90211
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:49:00 -
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8213 wrote:Oh I have to jump on this one...
1. I saw you as a Logi in plenty of Ambushes. Your highest score was 800 something.
2. Go figure, Nyain San boys in an Ambush beating up on noobs in starter fits as usual. Bravo. 800? wow, ok so you were on the enemy team with mottani japan squad and another squad of some other corp, if you see me with our squad without 2 fully proto squads on the enemy team then you can see almost 5people going over 3K!! and why do you troll? trolls are worthless scumbacks, so just go die in a ditch or something
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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Skihids
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
2465
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:00:00 -
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It's possible to get a good score as a 3R Logi if you have a killer squad, but not so much if you are on the other side.
I ran into a full Nyain San squad in an Ambush and my team didn't last long enough to get repaired or revived after being proto stomped. I couldn't get to the bodies without getting cut down myself and the concentrated AR fire or grenades dropped my teammates too fast to get a rep tool on them.
So yeah, if you are following a proto herd around it's profitable.
It's kind of like ambulance chasing. |
Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
155
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:00:00 -
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bear90211 wrote:8213 wrote:Oh I have to jump on this one...
1. I saw you as a Logi in plenty of Ambushes. Your highest score was 800 something.
2. Go figure, Nyain San boys in an Ambush beating up on noobs in starter fits as usual. Bravo. 800? wow, ok so you were on the enemy team with mottani japan squad and another squad of some other corp, if you see me with our squad without 2 fully proto squads on the enemy team then you can see almost 5people going over 3K!! and why do you troll? trolls are worthless scumbacks, so just go die in a ditch or something Your corps proto stomping is worthless to the playerbase and only helps themselves so you can't complain when other corps do it.
Fix the Plasma Cannon and increase direct damage 2x, it's a AV and AI weapon not AI-Have a PS4 so...
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bear90211
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:02:00 -
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Galthur wrote:bear90211 wrote:8213 wrote:Oh I have to jump on this one...
1. I saw you as a Logi in plenty of Ambushes. Your highest score was 800 something.
2. Go figure, Nyain San boys in an Ambush beating up on noobs in starter fits as usual. Bravo. 800? wow, ok so you were on the enemy team with mottani japan squad and another squad of some other corp, if you see me with our squad without 2 fully proto squads on the enemy team then you can see almost 5people going over 3K!! and why do you troll? trolls are worthless scumbacks, so just go die in a ditch or something Your corps proto stomping is worthless to the playerbase and only helps themselves so you can't complain when other corps do it. not complaining, BTW we BARELY get PC, we have what... 14% of MH? so OF COURSE were gunna pubstomp, theres no where elseto spend the 700M income a day.
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
535
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:03:00 -
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Galthur wrote:bear90211 wrote:8213 wrote:Oh I have to jump on this one...
1. I saw you as a Logi in plenty of Ambushes. Your highest score was 800 something.
2. Go figure, Nyain San boys in an Ambush beating up on noobs in starter fits as usual. Bravo. 800? wow, ok so you were on the enemy team with mottani japan squad and another squad of some other corp, if you see me with our squad without 2 fully proto squads on the enemy team then you can see almost 5people going over 3K!! and why do you troll? trolls are worthless scumbacks, so just go die in a ditch or something Your corps proto stomping is worthless to the playerbase and only helps themselves so you can't complain when other corps do it.
I know, seriously? Hypocrite much?
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
907
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:25:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Galthur wrote:bear90211 wrote:8213 wrote:Oh I have to jump on this one...
1. I saw you as a Logi in plenty of Ambushes. Your highest score was 800 something.
2. Go figure, Nyain San boys in an Ambush beating up on noobs in starter fits as usual. Bravo. 800? wow, ok so you were on the enemy team with mottani japan squad and another squad of some other corp, if you see me with our squad without 2 fully proto squads on the enemy team then you can see almost 5people going over 3K!! and why do you troll? trolls are worthless scumbacks, so just go die in a ditch or something Your corps proto stomping is worthless to the playerbase and only helps themselves so you can't complain when other corps do it. I know, seriously? Hypocrite much?
The a good chunk of our corp doesn't have proto gear. And we don't protostomp. In fact we have a stance AGAINST it. When we decimate teams, it's with Free or Standard gear, because we like to pinch pennies. Check your facts, Jack. We don't have to, nor want to, spend millions of ISK just to win a pub match.
Our corp actually takes in new players to protect them from protostompers and we try to teach them and train them as well.
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bear90211
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:30:00 -
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8213 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Galthur wrote:bear90211 wrote:8213 wrote:Oh I have to jump on this one...
1. I saw you as a Logi in plenty of Ambushes. Your highest score was 800 something.
2. Go figure, Nyain San boys in an Ambush beating up on noobs in starter fits as usual. Bravo. 800? wow, ok so you were on the enemy team with mottani japan squad and another squad of some other corp, if you see me with our squad without 2 fully proto squads on the enemy team then you can see almost 5people going over 3K!! and why do you troll? trolls are worthless scumbacks, so just go die in a ditch or something Your corps proto stomping is worthless to the playerbase and only helps themselves so you can't complain when other corps do it. I know, seriously? Hypocrite much? The a good chunk of our corp doesn't have proto gear. And we don't protostomp. In fact we have a stance AGAINST it. When we decimate teams, it's with Free or Standard gear, because we like to pinch pennies. Check your facts, Jack. We don't have to, nor want to, spend millions of ISK just to win a pub match. Our corp actually takes in new players to protect them from protostompers and we try to teach them and train them as well. Unless, you' re talking about Nyain, who closed half their districts just to generate money to pubstomp in Ambushes. hmm.... you get the wrong idea of what I meant, this wasnt a pubstomping thread if you look at the title, Its just to makes some of the bumble bees of death not murder people like you in pubs, and we mostly run proto gear because we barely have PC, and if you do look at the leaderboards, most of my corp is high up in it,so they will waste no time in ADV or STD while they get the most out of PRO.
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
908
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:39:00 -
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bear90211 wrote:8213 wrote:Oh I have to jump on this one...
1. I saw you as a Logi in plenty of Ambushes. Your highest score was 800 something.
2. Go figure, Nyain San boys in an Ambush beating up on noobs in starter fits as usual. Bravo. 800? wow, ok so you were on the enemy team with mottani japan squad and another squad of some other corp, if you see me with our squad without 2 fully proto squads on the enemy team then you can see almost 5people going over 3K!! and why do you troll? trolls are worthless scumbacks, so just go die in a ditch or something
Actually, I often "spy" using alts. I pay very close attention to top players and corps in this game. You've even revived and healed me tons of times and didn't even know it was me, so thank you. But, I have no problem holding people accountable.
Do I pick on you because of your corp, a little, yes. But your corp is one of the reasons this game is failing, and you guys seem not to care. You exploit this game for your own selfish wants and eventually will contribute to it's downfall.
You personally. You're an alright person, as most people are. You tank well, you protostomp well, and someday you'll logi well I'm sure. The fact that I see you outside of Ambush matches not rolling noobs with your corp says something about you and your place in this game. I wish more of your higher ups could learn from the example you sometimes set.
Do I get amused when I see your 800armor Gk.0 get beat, or even put on the ropes against noobs? Yes. But I think it's only right that you lose expensive tanks and suits when you're away from your corp umbrella. I've seen you commit some total a**hole sh*t in this game many times, and so long as the game is still alive, I'm going to call anyone out on it.
I don't see many vet players standing up for new players, but I'll keep doing it. |
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bear90211
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
64
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:49:00 -
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8213 wrote:bear90211 wrote:8213 wrote:Oh I have to jump on this one...
1. I saw you as a Logi in plenty of Ambushes. Your highest score was 800 something.
2. Go figure, Nyain San boys in an Ambush beating up on noobs in starter fits as usual. Bravo. 800? wow, ok so you were on the enemy team with mottani japan squad and another squad of some other corp, if you see me with our squad without 2 fully proto squads on the enemy team then you can see almost 5people going over 3K!! and why do you troll? trolls are worthless scumbacks, so just go die in a ditch or something Actually, I often "spy" using alts. I pay very close attention to top players and corps in this game. You've even revived and healed me tons of times and didn't even know it was me, so thank you. But, I have no problem holding people accountable. Do I pick on you because of your corp, a little, yes. But your corp is one of the reasons this game is failing, and you guys seem not to care. You exploit this game for your own selfish wants and eventually will contribute to it's downfall. You personally. You're an alright person, as most people are. You tank well, you protostomp well, and someday you'll logi well I'm sure. The fact that I see you outside of Ambush matches not rolling noobs with your corp says something about you and your place in this game. I wish more of your higher ups could learn from the example you sometimes set. Do I get amused when I see your 800armor Gk.0 get beat, or even put on the ropes against noobs? Yes. But I think it's only right that you lose expensive tanks and suits when you're away from your corp umbrella. I've seen you commit some total a**hole sh*t in this game many times, and so long as the game is still alive, I'm going to call anyone out on it. I don't see many vet players standing up for new players, but I'll keep doing it. I was surprized when you said this, as I thought you were a complete troll, But yes, I do run around with other friends, even do qsyncs with themsmashing the amarr or something, but my GK is not 800HP, its 660, I dont run over 700 because ill die for the huge loss of repps, and I need that to survive while taking fire and dealing it back, and TY I do ALOT of roles, Im not a designated person really, just a few mill SP into everything, and people think Im an adult, Im not, so im dealing with alot of stuff that, I shouldent be anywhere near, and some call me BB cause their complete @ss holes(grim you know its you). I play with almost everyone, I avoid certain people, I make uniqe fittings... If yousee my incubus before 1.7, jump in and you will find out that its the fastest thing ever(litterally, it reachesthe map ceiling in like 2 seconds) lol, but yeah, I try stuff, and the logi is a great WP getter.
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
250
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:01:00 -
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Ok, two things: 1. Logibrethern have ALWAYS scored more points than anyone to make up for the lowered amount of damage they do. 2. You Protostomp because your corp has money? That 700M/day could be used better. Like helping corps enter PC or playing in FW. As a matter of fact, you could even loan money to Dust mercs to help them along, that 700M/day should be used for the betterment of Dust, not yourself. Keep Protostomping out of Pubs. It's so bad that I do BETTER in FW, which doesn't make any sense. If I'm beaten by proto in FW, I'm good, because that's the whole point. That's Lo-Sec, same as PC. However, Pubs are Hi-Sec and we need a system to keep it that way. No proto in Pub might work, but that won't solve the problem of people (like myself) who has proto AR's but doesn't use them. Would it read me as Proto? Or does the highest dropsuit dictate? What about turrets? Mods? Just keep it out of Pubs, the newcomers have a rough enough time of it as it is. They're still learning and the curve is VICIOUS. Don't make it worse. Just my two ISK.
EDIT: Also, if you're in PC, open your districts.If you're not there to fight, what is the purpose of being there.
(Sorry to hijack this thread, but I don't like protostomping. And I did stay on subject at the beginning.)
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Lv2spd2
Slow And Old
99
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:07:00 -
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bear90211 wrote:hmm.... you get the wrong idea of what I meant, this wasnt a pubstomping thread if you look at the title.
Pretty much any thread by or about Nyain San is going to end up being a pubstomping thread. |
Akamandon
DROID EXILES
0
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:37:00 -
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Don't come on these forums that oft n and I had no idea that protostomping was a issue, it really shouldn't be thats the whole point of getting sp isn't it? So you can get proto gear and presumably use it. How is it the players fault? Ccp should have something better set up for new players, course that would probably affect their aurum sales so its probably not gonna happen....But to ***** about people using their hard earned proto gear is just bitching for the sake of bitching, course thats just my opinion which doesn't count for much lol. Fyi congrats luna on the promotion, I can't think of a better person for the job. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
5692
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:40:00 -
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Akamandon wrote:Don't come on these forums that oft n and I had no idea that protostomping was a issue, it really shouldn't be thats the whole point of getting sp isn't it? So you can get proto gear and presumably use it. How is it the players fault? Ccp should have something better set up for new players, course that would probably affect their aurum sales so its probably not gonna happen....But to ***** about people using their hard earned proto gear is just bitching for the sake of bitching, course thats just my opinion which doesn't count for much lol. Fyi congrats luna on the promotion, I can't think of a better person for the job.
Protostomping is a problem because as fun as it is for the people using their shiny proto gear, it's quite definitely not fun for the newbies repeatedly being shoved against their full proto squad.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
251
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:43:00 -
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Akamandon wrote:Don't come on these forums that oft n and I had no idea that protostomping was a issue, it really shouldn't be thats the whole point of getting sp isn't it? So you can get proto gear and presumably use it. How is it the players fault? Ccp should have something better set up for new players, course that would probably affect their aurum sales so its probably not gonna happen....But to ***** about people using their hard earned proto gear is just bitching for the sake of bitching, course thats just my opinion which doesn't count for much lol. Fyi congrats luna on the promotion, I can't think of a better person for the job. lol, thanks, Aka, we need to catch up sometime.
As for protostomping, I don't care if you use your gear, just keep it out of public matches. Those are Hi-Sec battles, like duels in EVE. If you attack people without just cause, such as criminals, people you're at war with, or in duels, you get instakilled by CONCORD. I just want a similar system here, that's all.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8204
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:48:00 -
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Sorry OP but with the exception of the core focused repper, WP gains aren't prorated by equipment meta level like they should.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Akamandon
DROID EXILES
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:00:00 -
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Okay so just so I know, what are the "acceptable" equipment I should be using in pub matches, keep in mind that I deleted all my starter fits, kind of created my own starter fits using blueprints.....
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
540
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:07:00 -
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8213 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Galthur wrote:bear90211 wrote:8213 wrote:Oh I have to jump on this one...
1. I saw you as a Logi in plenty of Ambushes. Your highest score was 800 something.
2. Go figure, Nyain San boys in an Ambush beating up on noobs in starter fits as usual. Bravo. 800? wow, ok so you were on the enemy team with mottani japan squad and another squad of some other corp, if you see me with our squad without 2 fully proto squads on the enemy team then you can see almost 5people going over 3K!! and why do you troll? trolls are worthless scumbacks, so just go die in a ditch or something Your corps proto stomping is worthless to the playerbase and only helps themselves so you can't complain when other corps do it. I know, seriously? Hypocrite much? The a good chunk of our corp doesn't have proto gear. And we don't protostomp. In fact we have a stance AGAINST it. When we decimate teams, it's with Free or Standard gear, because we like to pinch pennies. Check your facts, Jack. We don't have to, nor want to, spend millions of ISK just to win a pub match. Our corp actually takes in new players to protect them from protostompers and we try to teach them and train them as well. Unless, you're talking about Nyain, who closed half their districts just to generate money to pubstomp in Ambushes.
Naturally I was talking about Nyain. Edited the original post to make it more clear.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
251
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:08:00 -
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Akamandon wrote:Okay so just so I know, what are the "acceptable" equipment I should be using in pub matches, keep in mind that I deleted all my starter fits, kind of created my own starter fits using blueprints.....
Preferably STD, perhaps ADV, nothing higher. That's what I run when in Pub's, which isn't often. Also, are you on Dust right now? I sent you something.
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Akamandon
DROID EXILES
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:18:00 -
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Yup I got it and ya I can do advanced in pub matches no problem. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
252
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:20:00 -
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Akamandon wrote:Yup I got it and ya I can do advanced in pub matches no problem. Good, do that. You can do whatever you want in FW/PC, though.
I'm not even in the EVE client, I sent that from a website.
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T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:34:00 -
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I have to say, even though it is not really related to this thread, I don't like pub protostomping, but I played a match where my team was being pub-stomped. I changed to a sniper, to try and get some kills. There was a proto cadari logi that came and stood in front of me. He at leased let me try to kill him,(fat chance as I was in the starter fit). That shows that some proto users sometimes give you a chance.
Sorry for not being on topic.
EDIT: *as in a chance, I mean he let me empty two clips of my militia smg into him. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
252
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:36:00 -
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T'orq wrote:I have to say, even though it is not really related to this thread, I don't like pub protostomping, but I played a match where my team was being pub-stomped. I changed to a sniper, to try and get some kills. There was a proto cadari logi that came and stood in front of me. He at leased let me try to kill him,(fat chance as I was in the starter fit). That shows that some proto users sometimes give you a chance.
Sorry for not being on topic. Give you a chance? No, (s)he was trolling you.
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T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:37:00 -
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Sorry I changed it a little |
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