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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:56:00 -
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Because they are the worst assault suits currently so they need it.
CALDARI MASTER RACE
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:03:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Because they are the worst assault suits currently so they need it.
They are the fastest assaults and have a 1hp/second natural armor repair. They can also destroy heavies with a 100 round smg. They're fine if you ask me. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
696
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:09:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:Zekain K wrote:Because they are the worst assault suits currently so they need it. They are the fastest assaults and have a 1hp/second natural armor repair. They can also destroy heavies with a 100 round smg. They're fine if you ask me.
Bro, speed is pointless.
CALDARI MASTER RACE
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1545
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:10:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Because they are the worst assault suits currently so they need it.
I use mine with stack shield extenders, an energiser, 2 enhanced dampeners with a shotgun and SMG and it works a treat.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Tectonic Fusion
647
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:10:00 -
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I agree. Just because they are the true logi.
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
248
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:11:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Zekain K wrote:Because they are the worst assault suits currently so they need it. They are the fastest assaults and have a 1hp/second natural armor repair. They can also destroy heavies with a 100 round smg. They're fine if you ask me. Bro, speed is pointless.
Depends, its build for hit and run, so you should use it that way.
See if I'm in a gunfight and see I will lose theres no running for my fat amarr ass, stay and die, while minnies could run safe back home and spent more time with ther wifes and childen 
another one bites the Dust...
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Terra Thesis
HDYLTA
Defiant Legacy
368
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:50:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Zekain K wrote:Because they are the worst assault suits currently so they need it. They are the fastest assaults and have a 1hp/second natural armor repair. They can also destroy heavies with a 100 round smg. They're fine if you ask me. Bro, speed is pointless.
says the squid.
HDYLTA - Freedom Delivered
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
1914
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:52:00 -
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no assault suit has 2 equipment slots. So why should the minmatarr assault get one?
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
85
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:53:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Because they are the worst assault suits currently so they need it.
No! Try maxing out your SMG skill, equip two SMGs, put on two complex sidearm damage mod with 3 complex shield extenders, and the have a complex speed mod in the lows... run around fast as hell unloading 100 rounds per clip, swapping guns instead of reloading and laughing all the while! ;)
You just need to learn how to use stuff properly. |
Assert Dominance
0bamacare
513
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:55:00 -
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needs a bonus for all matari weaponry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g < 1.7 leak!
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
308
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:56:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:Zekain K wrote:Because they are the worst assault suits currently so they need it. No! Try maxing out your SMG skill, equip two SMGs, put on two complex sidearm damage mod with 3 complex shield extenders, and the have a complex speed mod in the lows... run around fast as hell unloading 100 rounds per clip, swapping guns instead of reloading and laughing all the while! ;) You just need to learn how to use stuff properly.
agreed, minmatar arnt the worst, they are the most different from the others, and it requires a different playstyle before you understand its true power. |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
Relentless Heroes Alliance
541
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:59:00 -
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I don't think it needs an extra equipment slot. Its a good suit but not a frontline.
Even if it did we need to learn our lesson from the Amarr Logi and not reserve a characteristic layout for proto. It would have to be present through the entire range.
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
115
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:02:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Zekain K wrote:Because they are the worst assault suits currently so they need it. They are the fastest assaults and have a 1hp/second natural armor repair. They can also destroy heavies with a 100 round smg. They're fine if you ask me. Bro, speed is pointless.
I strongly disagree. If speed was pointless you'd see a lot more heavies running around and no scouts. Especially movement speed. Strafing is very important in this game so I don't understand how speed would be pointless. |
Toby Flenderson
research lab
115
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:03:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:Zekain K wrote:Because they are the worst assault suits currently so they need it. No! Try maxing out your SMG skill, equip two SMGs, put on two complex sidearm damage mod with 3 complex shield extenders, and the have a complex speed mod in the lows... run around fast as hell unloading 100 rounds per clip, swapping guns instead of reloading and laughing all the while! ;) You just need to learn how to use stuff properly.
I have that fitting exactly haha. |
Dengru
Fatal Absolution
183
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:39:00 -
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You guys are jokes with your smgs. 2 milliion sp just to have enhanced spray and pray, what a joke of a racial bonus. Probably have on aim assist to.
used to be the best assault but changes in mechanics has hurt it alot. Nerfed the strafe too hard.
(>^_^)><(^.^<)
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Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
199
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:42:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:no assault suit has 2 equipment slots. So why should the minmatarr assault get one?
No Logi has a sidearm. Why should Amarr get one? It's They're unique flavor.
I see no problem with them having extra equipment. Theyre shafted on everything else. Why not? |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2414
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:45:00 -
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That's what's needed for scouts, not the Minny assault. That suit is ideal for unorthodox weapons, since they have the best ability to reach a target fast, and have that epic defensive bonus that opens up into some really creative offensive options.
The idea that this assault suit is bad comes from those who don't know any other combat than standing toe to toe with an enemy and winning an aim off.
No.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8204
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:46:00 -
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Give the scout an extra equipment slot, give the assault +12 base shield recharge, -1 recharge delay, -4 depleted delay, and make the racial bonus apply to total clip size instead of base clip size for sidearms.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Kane Fyea
2300
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:48:00 -
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Sorry but Gallente Assault is the worst Assault. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
5692
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:50:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Sorry but Gallente Assault is the worst Assault.
This.
As much as people will ***** about how armour suits/Gallente suits are OP, it is quite definitely not the Galassault, just the logi.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8204
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:51:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Sorry but Gallente Assault is the worst Assault.
Gallente can at least armor tank. Maybe when we get hybrid sidearms and grenades, the Gallente assault would shine a bit more. I wouldn't be opposed to buffing the racial to 10% per level so they can fit all proto weapons.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
1861
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:06:00 -
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Minmatar assault is just flimsy due to shields being cut through like butter because nearly every weapon on the field does a bonus to shields. It's more of a problem with shields than a problem with the suit.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8205
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:13:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Minmatar assault is just flimsy due to shields being cut through like butter because nearly every weapon on the field does a bonus to shields. It's more of a problem with shields than a problem with the suit.
^So much this. It's going to be interesting how people's fittings might change in 1.7-1.8 if they ever get around to fixing TTK.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Aria Gomes
Death by Disassociation
Zero-Day
161
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:28:00 -
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Minmatar Assault is just fine haha. It's not for close engagements, it's for mid to slightly short distance fighting. Get a GLU or GK and you'll like the suit more. |
Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
277
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:34:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:Depends, its build for hit and run, so you should use it that way. See if I'm in a gunfight and see I will lose theres no running for my fat amarr ass, stay and die, while minnies could run safe back home and spent more time with ther wifes and childen
There's no "running away" for the believers. Stand still, and die.
Atone the sins of not be successful in battle by dying.
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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Clips A'hoy
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
92
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Posted - 2013.12.02 22:06:00 -
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Why in the world do we Minmatar Assaults need another equipment slot when our CPU is already down the drain? If you ask me they should give us more CPU so we can replace the CPU Upgrade and finally use our only two low-slots simultaneously.
Getting hate mail by big corps makes my heart grow fonder.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1060
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Posted - 2013.12.02 22:12:00 -
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Clips A'hoy wrote:Why in the world do we Minmatar Assaults need another equipment slot when our CPU is already down the drain? If you ask me they should give us more CPU so we can replace the CPU Upgrade and finally use our only two low-slots simultaneously.
^this
"Just another piece of duct tape"
Drugs for mercs
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
2605
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Posted - 2013.12.02 22:27:00 -
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Clips A'hoy wrote:Why in the world do we Minmatar Assaults need another equipment slot when our CPU is already down the drain? If you ask me they should give us more CPU so we can replace the CPU Upgrade and finally use our only two low-slots simultaneously.
how about both? (Minja too please)
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.12.03 00:55:00 -
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sorry couldn't catch you I was mowing down 20 people with my smg
One day my shotgun will run out ammo
1.7 is the day if I fight or i give up
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2676
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Posted - 2013.12.03 01:54:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Because they are the worst assault suits currently so they need it.
Whatthey need is faster Shield REGEN and a CPU-PG increase.
With this the Matari ASsault would be a good Assault.
As it is, IMO The Minmatar ASsault is VERY GOOD nevertheless.
#1 - Amarr Assault:
Sadly the Low Slot count wont give you ANY possibilities at all regarding FITTING VERSATILITY.
Still its Laser Bonus would let you create a very powerful offensive Assault with 1 or 2 Cx Damage mods and enough armor tanking for at least 700HP with a Scrambler Rifle.(Around 150-250 less HP than a logi
Enough CPU and PG to fit Complex and Enhanced mods for a very increase effectiveness.
Scout level stamina and Almost Logi level CPU and PG, Offensive bonus that CANNOT BE Replicated with modules by a Logi Make the Amarr Assault IMO the best Assault.
It needs an Additional LOW slot and CPU-PG upgrade to be at LOGI Level thou.
#2 - Minmatar Assault:
With a UNIQUE Slot configuration, Scout level speed and Sidearm bonus that cannot be replicated by a logi, the Minmatar Assault gains #2 Assault position.Sadly the Low CPU in the suit avoids powerful fitting options BUT the Sidearm bonus is perfect for people who like to run around with a Anti Vehicle light weapon all the time ,or Side arm Specialists.
It needs a LOT more of CPU and Better shield regen, maybe increase its ARMOR REPAIR rate to 2 to be at Logi Level.
#3 - Caldari ASsault:
This is the THIRD Best Assault. Why? Well Both Its bonuses really help TANKING (shield) and shield regen.
With 3 Cx Shield Extenders and a Shield Re-charger/Energizer the Cal Assault can reach Scout level Shield regen but with better Shield Totals.
Now the real problem AGAIN , is the very LOW CPU numbers that avoids the Cal Assault TRULY shining with a Solid Dual tanking as it should be. It might look overall BETTER than the MIN ASSAULT,but the fact the CALDARI LOGI out preforms this suit in EVERY SINGLE WAY POSSIBLE, kleaves it at #3. (A Cal Logi can equip a Enhanced or Complex CPU enhancer and STILL have 5 High Slots, 3 Low slots to tank. PLUs it only sacrifices a sidearm for +2 Equipment slots.
The Cal assault needs a serious CPU upgrade.
#4 Gallente Assault.
Im just Sorry for anyone using this. The Gallente logi outperforms the Gal Assault in EVERY IMAGIABLE way,and the few things the Gal assault has over the Gal logi,the g-*Logi can fix with their extra Low slot and 4 equipment slots...PLUS the GAl logi has 2 VERY useful Bonuses , while the Gal Assault has none.
Give the Gal Assault an innate 2 Armor repair per sec to their armors AND:
+1% Per level DAMAGE to Hybrid weapons.
To make it equally effective as a Gal Logi .
My 2 cents
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