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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:21:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Friendly fire? Oh wonderful I'm just going to love the same 'friendly' idiots shooting my vehicles with forge-guns and installations actually being able to kill them now... and no kicking them from the match isn't 'compensation' for that. Kill a friendly? It gets taken from your wallet, unless you're forgiven. On top of the measures they announced, I think they should also have a GÇ£you break it, you buy itGÇ¥ mechanic for friendly fire, so if you kill a teammate or destroy a friendly vehicle, the cost of the suit, or vehicle gets automatically transferred from your personal wallet to their personal wallet. AUM items should be reimbursed with an equivalent amount of ISK.
Not a bad idea
AUR items will be available for LP too according to the FW2.0
Raises the question about debt in ISK and LP though. What if someone does not have the scratch to pay for a 1mil dropship?
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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CrotchGrab 360
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
392
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:32:00 -
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enjoy losing 2m ISK tanks to scrubs sat in installations.
enjoy being team killed to a guy with a militia shotgun shooting your protosuit in the back.
friendly fire just opens up another part of the playground. in a bad way.
friendly fire will ruin this game. mark my words. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
265
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:53:00 -
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I'm really looking forward to FF coming to FW. I loved playing hardcore in BF3 which had FF and even after over a year of playing it constantly before starting Dust a year ago, I have no memory of people trolling with FF. It's going to be alot more interesting here though with ISK and Aurum on the line, and trolling will be an issue, hopefully on the minor scale  Whatever about dropsuits though, it's vehicles that could be bearing the brunt of the trolling. From the details CCP have given it'll be fairly easy to damage a friendly vehicle with a number of weapons/turrets/other vehicles when they are about to engage the enemy, but just stop shy of the killshot, letting the enemy finish them. Hopefully there will be some mechanic that will penalise players if they cause alot of damage to teammates, regardless of whether they kill them or not, to try to deter this, but I'm not optimistic |
Cosgar
ParagonX
8204
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:56:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:Cosgar wrote:It's going to be fun watching all the pubstompers melting each other just to try and get a kill. Most of us play PC enough to know how to not kill each other.
Most, but no all. I'm forseeing a decline in M-1/Core locus grenade spam as well.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Rowdy Railgunner
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
218
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:06:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:More severe.
But not as severe for people with high LP amounts. They are supposed to be valuable FW players, so they should be forgiven for an occasional TK. Noobs joining FW just to TK should be insta-kicked and we should be allowed to kick the player who killed us, if we can tell that it was done on purpose.
The new FW promises to be our first serious game mode for this game (finally u_u), so people should take it seriously. I don't want to deal with moronic griefers while I try to help my Faction.
If you want to mess around, play Public Games. If you put kicking in the hands of the players, it would be overused and used for griefing.
That's funny because most AAA shooters have that option. |
DaNizzle4shizle
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:08:00 -
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FINALLY! now i can kill those stupid blues that wont leave my ds or lav
2nd Commander of The dyst0pian Corporation.
I can stand blueberries. but i cannot stand a ProtoStomp.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8205
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:10:00 -
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DaNizzle4shizle wrote:FINALLY! now i can kill those stupid blues that wont leave my ds or lav
Umm, you already can. Vehicle redzones are different from infantry redzones.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
113
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:17:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Friendly fire? Oh wonderful I'm just going to love the same 'friendly' idiots shooting my vehicles with forge-guns and installations actually being able to kill them now... and no kicking them from the match isn't 'compensation' for that. Kill a friendly? It gets taken from your wallet, unless you're forgiven. On top of the measures they announced, I think they should also have a GÇ£you break it, you buy itGÇ¥ mechanic for friendly fire, so if you kill a teammate or destroy a friendly vehicle, the cost of the suit, or vehicle gets automatically transferred from your personal wallet to their personal wallet. AUM items should be reimbursed with an equivalent amount of ISK. Not a bad idea AUR items will be available for LP too according to the FW2.0 Raises the question about debt in ISK and LP though. What if someone does not have the scratch to pay for a 1mil dropship?
Same thing that happens in eve if you get caught doing something like buying isk - you go into negatives and you stay in negatives unable to buy stuff until you work it off. I've seen people with -600m isk in eve and all they had access to was a rookie ship.
Blow up friendly tanks / dropships? Enjoy being at -10m isk and unable to buy anything until you grind it out in militia suits. |
Jammer Jalapeno
BIG BAD W0LVES
73
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:20:00 -
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I'm not too keen on the idea...there will just be blueberries trolling around shooting everything.
MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
633
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:23:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Friendly fire? Oh wonderful I'm just going to love the same 'friendly' idiots shooting my vehicles with forge-guns and installations actually being able to kill them now... and no kicking them from the match isn't 'compensation' for that. Kill a friendly? It gets taken from your wallet, unless you're forgiven. On top of the measures they announced, I think they should also have a GÇ£you break it, you buy itGÇ¥ mechanic for friendly fire, so if you kill a teammate or destroy a friendly vehicle, the cost of the suit, or vehicle gets automatically transferred from your personal wallet to their personal wallet. AUM items should be reimbursed with an equivalent amount of ISK. Not a bad idea AUR items will be available for LP too according to the FW2.0 Raises the question about debt in ISK and LP though. What if someone does not have the scratch to pay for a 1mil dropship? Same thing that happens in eve if you get caught doing something like buying isk - you go into negatives and you stay in negatives unable to buy stuff until you work it off. I've seen people with -600m isk in eve and all they had access to was a rookie ship. Blow up friendly tanks / dropships? Enjoy being at -10m isk and unable to buy anything until you grind it out in militia suits.
Nice
Did not know that they did that.
However free accounts present a problem Dustside, no?
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
116
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Posted - 2013.12.02 22:08:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Friendly fire? Oh wonderful I'm just going to love the same 'friendly' idiots shooting my vehicles with forge-guns and installations actually being able to kill them now... and no kicking them from the match isn't 'compensation' for that. Kill a friendly? It gets taken from your wallet, unless you're forgiven. On top of the measures they announced, I think they should also have a GÇ£you break it, you buy itGÇ¥ mechanic for friendly fire, so if you kill a teammate or destroy a friendly vehicle, the cost of the suit, or vehicle gets automatically transferred from your personal wallet to their personal wallet. AUM items should be reimbursed with an equivalent amount of ISK. Not a bad idea AUR items will be available for LP too according to the FW2.0 Raises the question about debt in ISK and LP though. What if someone does not have the scratch to pay for a 1mil dropship? Same thing that happens in eve if you get caught doing something like buying isk - you go into negatives and you stay in negatives unable to buy stuff until you work it off. I've seen people with -600m isk in eve and all they had access to was a rookie ship. Blow up friendly tanks / dropships? Enjoy being at -10m isk and unable to buy anything until you grind it out in militia suits. Nice Did not know that they did that. However free accounts present a problem Dustside, no?
Not really, and if they do simply disable isk transfers until you're out of the red. |
True Adamance
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4476
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Posted - 2013.12.02 22:16:00 -
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I'm concerned too many idiot blue dots will stand infront of my tank as I am firing.....WHY I will scream as I am kicked for doing my job as one too many blue dots do something stupid.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
633
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Posted - 2013.12.02 22:20:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote: *snip*
Not really, and if they do simply disable isk transfers until you're out of the red.
I was thinking more of one offing characters and then biomassing them if the debt load is negative. I suppose this could be curbed the way you say and adding a ISK cost to Goo your clone.
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
633
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Posted - 2013.12.02 22:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I'm concerned too many idiot blue dots will stand infront of my tank as I am firing.....WHY I will scream as I am kicked for doing my job as one too many blue dots do something stupid.
Well yes there is that
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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Admonishment
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
38
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Posted - 2013.12.02 23:38:00 -
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Griefing incoming...lol already got people dropping vehicles on their own team already because they chose a different play-style and don't use the same fitting as the rest of the elitists. Even with the penalties it wont stop it from happening. You get team killed if they don't like what you are doing, or team killed for being better than them.
Level 5 Proficiency in Tupperware handling.
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True Adamance
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4484
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Posted - 2013.12.02 23:41:00 -
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Admonishment wrote:Griefing incoming...lol already got people dropping vehicles on their own team already because they chose a different play-style and don't use the same fitting as the rest of the elitists. Even with the penalties it wont stop it from happening.
There aren't any elitists in FW.
Just loyalists and mercenary scum.
One side cares about winning, the other does not.
Commissar _________ insert suitable 40k reference here is going to be in FW matches ensuring all our soldiers fight, or die honourably by the bullet.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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