DUST Search - Scouts Need To Be Nerfed

Atiim wrote:

Scheneighnay McBob wrote:

My commando fits, as well as my scout fits are effective.
Your argument is invalid.

My best commando combines an AR with a sniper rifle, and fights at the edge of the clusterfuck.

My best gallente scout has insane passive scanning and uses a shotgun. Instead of trying to out-strafe people, I watch my scanners to get the jump on them.

My best minmatar scout (and my favorite fit atm) has a sniper rifle, but focuses more on non-combat jobs, such as hacking unguarded objectives and dropping uplinks.
One battle, I managed to top my team's scoreboard with it, going 4-0, with about 1500 WP. Much of the battle, I was running between the hills surrounding the objective to the supply depots, since my uplinks were being used so quickly. In my spare time, I was either countersniping, or sniping the uplink spam.

So....

Scout's don't need any of the stuff I mentioned?

Okay. Ugh

Also, I negate this with the fact that being useful on the battlefield and having skill will negate the shortcomings of any class. (Usually, but there are some exceptions)

Just look at Assault and Logistics dropship pilots, you think they are perfectly fine as is? They are very succesful but I think we can all agree that those things need a serious buff or re-balance, which is coming SoonGäó

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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1501	Posted - 2013.12.02 00:07:00 - [1] - Quote No this is not a troll post. See I've been using the scouts for a while now, and I must say; "This is the most easiest and OP thing I've ever used". Now we all know the Commando class right? And how it's almost completely useless at any tier other than PRO? (and even then it still fails terribly) I believe the scouts are OP because they can do a better job of being completely useless than my Commando can. I mean you can't look me in the eye and tell me that scouts are too good at being useless. But how do we fix this problem? Simple. If we increase the stats of the Scout frames, such as speed, stamina, CPU/PG, passive scan radii, etc.; we would make the scouts less OP at being useless than the Commandos. I know you scouts may not want this nerf, but I hope that level headed people can agree that this nerf really needs to happen. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Mdog 24158 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2013.12.02 00:10:00 - [2] - Quote Atiim wrote: No this is not a troll post. See I've been using the scouts for a while now, and I must say; "This is the most easiest and OP thing I've ever used". Now we all know the Commando class right? And how it's almost completely useless at any tier other than PRO? (and even then it still fails terribly) I believe the scouts are OP because they can do a better job of being completely useless than my Commando can. I mean you can't look me in the eye and tell me that scouts aren't too good at being useless. But how do we fix this problem? Simple. If we increase the stats of the Scout frames, such as speed, stamina, CPU/PG, passive scan radii, etc.; we would make the scouts less OP at being useless than the Commandos. I know you scouts may not want this nerf, but I hope that level headed people can agree that this nerf really needs to happen. The sarcasm is strong in you Flying derpships and scout shotgunning 24/7 quite fun i must say
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 115	Posted - 2013.12.02 00:11:00 - [3] - Quote You had me going there for a minute.........
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1504	Posted - 2013.12.02 00:13:00 - [4] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: You had me going there for a minute......... I'm being serious If we don't nerf the Scout class soon, they will be even more OP than the Commandos. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Seigfried Warheit 61	Posted - 2013.12.02 00:14:00 - [5] - Quote Nerf it nerf it to hell!
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 277	Posted - 2013.12.02 00:15:00 - [6] - Quote Are you kidding me? A nerf I CAN ACTUALLY GET BEHIND? Dude, you had me at nerf. LAV murder man: "I can kill with rails, therefore they're OP." NERF THE SCOUTS!
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 116	Posted - 2013.12.02 00:19:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: You had me going there for a minute......... I'm being serious If we don't nerf the Scout class soon, they will be even more OP than the Commandos. Oh no, I see this, but I thought you were saying that the Commando is far more OP when it clearly isn't. They are both ******* useless.
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 257	Posted - 2013.12.02 00:20:00 - [8] - Quote Atiim wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: You had me going there for a minute......... I'm being serious If we don't nerf the Scout class soon, they will be even more OP than the Commandos. Not likely... they still have a long ways to go. an easy fix to Matchmaking
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10920	Posted - 2013.12.02 00:21:00 - [9] - Quote Nerf Scout uselessness! I totally agree! CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1509	Posted - 2013.12.02 00:22:00 - [10] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Atiim wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: You had me going there for a minute......... I'm being serious If we don't nerf the Scout class soon, they will be even more OP than the Commandos. Oh no, I see this, but I thought you were saying that the Commando is far more OP when it clearly isn't. They are both ******* useless. That's the joke. You can't claim that something is ridiculously OP in comparison to another, when both roles are ridiculously UP. Plus, it's not a medium frame carrying a Duvolle, so If I scream "nerf it" the COD kids and CCP will actually listen to this and "nerf" scouts. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1509	Posted - 2013.12.02 00:32:00 - [11] - Quote Phew. I'm glad to see that for once, everybody can agree that a nerf really did need to happen. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1436	Posted - 2013.12.02 01:23:00 - [12] - Quote I see what you did there "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2643	Posted - 2013.12.02 01:25:00 - [13] - Quote Atiim wrote: No this is not a troll post. See I've been using the scouts for a while now, and I must say; "This is the most easiest and OP thing I've ever used". Now we all know the Commando class right? And how it's almost completely useless at any tier other than PRO? (and even then it still fails terribly) I believe the scouts are OP because they can do a better job of being completely useless than my Commando can. I mean you can't look me in the eye and tell me that scouts aren't too good at being useless. But how do we fix this problem? Simple. If we increase the stats of the Scout frames, such as speed, stamina, CPU/PG, passive scan radii, etc.; we would make the scouts less OP at being useless than the Commandos. I know you scouts may not want this nerf, but I hope that level headed people can agree that this nerf really needs to happen. I was about to rage. i was like: '' I cant believe ATIIM is saying this Bs....'' Well played Please Support my Active Scanner Thread HERE ==> X
mollerz Minja Scouts 1076	Posted - 2013.12.02 01:31:00 - [14] - Quote And while we are at it, can we please just start players in their vehicles. I'm tired of barely beating the other teams LAV phats suits to the initial objectives. Instadrop vehicles from orbit aren't fast enough. Your nerf is good, but it doesn't go far enough. #shittycoding
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2595	Posted - 2013.12.02 02:07:00 - [15] - Quote Every damn time. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5476	Posted - 2013.12.02 02:13:00 - [16] - Quote I was this close to stabbing your clone corpes. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 122	Posted - 2013.12.02 02:14:00 - [17] - Quote Atiim wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Atiim wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: You had me going there for a minute......... I'm being serious If we don't nerf the Scout class soon, they will be even more OP than the Commandos. Oh no, I see this, but I thought you were saying that the Commando is far more OP when it clearly isn't. They are both ******* useless. That's the joke. You can't claim that something is ridiculously OP in comparison to another, when both roles are ridiculously UP. Plus, it's not a medium frame carrying a Duvolle, so If I scream "nerf it" the COD kids and CCP will actually listen to this and "nerf" scouts. SO you didn't see what I did there? Scout: uselessness=very OP Commando uselessness= Scout's uselessness However, I'm seeing people using Commando's more cleverly, so Scouts are essentially getting a buff in uselessness due to people getting smart (this is based off of seeing a sq. of them just 10 minutes ago.). Therefore, Scout will be even more OP than Commando in terms of uselessness.....
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1531	Posted - 2013.12.02 18:54:00 - [18] - Quote mollerz wrote: And while we are at it, can we please just start players in their vehicles. I'm tired of barely beating the other teams LAV phats suits to the initial objectives. Instadrop vehicles from orbit aren't fast enough. Your nerf is good, but it doesn't go far enough. I don't remember what the thread was titled, but CCP has already stated that they plan to make the ground base(s) and MCC farther away from objectives, allowing for people to have more time to call out LAVs and making DSs and other means of transportation a much more neccesary and tactical asset on the battlefield. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1531	Posted - 2013.12.02 18:56:00 - [19] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Atiim wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Atiim wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: You had me going there for a minute......... I'm being serious If we don't nerf the Scout class soon, they will be even more OP than the Commandos. Oh no, I see this, but I thought you were saying that the Commando is far more OP when it clearly isn't. They are both ******* useless. That's the joke. You can't claim that something is ridiculously OP in comparison to another, when both roles are ridiculously UP. Plus, it's not a medium frame carrying a Duvolle, so If I scream "nerf it" the COD kids and CCP will actually listen to this and "nerf" scouts. SO you didn't see what I did there? Scout: uselessness=very OP Commando uselessness= Scout's uselessness However, I'm seeing people using Commando's more cleverly, so Scouts are essentially getting a buff in uselessness due to people getting smart (this is based off of seeing a sq. of them just 10 minutes ago.). Therefore, Scout will be even more OP than Commando in terms of uselessness..... Reading this now, I see what you were getting at. However, it was 2am when I made this thread, so I may have just misread or overlooked what you were saying. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4248	Posted - 2013.12.02 19:01:00 - [20] - Quote I readied my claws to attack you and your clones. Now they're stuck in this position. DAMN YOU! Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1535	Posted - 2013.12.02 19:06:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I readied my claws to attack you and your clones. Now they're stuck in this position. DAMN YOU! Don't worry I'll make it up to you. How's about a new scratching post? My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4249	Posted - 2013.12.02 19:11:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I readied my claws to attack you and your clones. Now they're stuck in this position. DAMN YOU! Don't worry I'll make it up to you. How's about a new scratching post? :D Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 250	Posted - 2013.12.02 19:22:00 - [23] - Quote I love this idea. +1 Names of playstyles
DEFENDEROF theknight The Exemplars Top Men. 4	Posted - 2013.12.03 01:42:00 - [24] - Quote Atiim wrote: No this is not a troll post. See I've been using the scouts for a while now, and I must say; "This is the most easiest and OP thing I've ever used". Now we all know the Commando class right? And how it's almost completely useless at any tier other than PRO? (and even then it still fails terribly) I believe the scouts are OP because they can do a better job of being completely useless than my Commando can. I mean you can't look me in the eye and tell me that scouts aren't too good at being useless. But how do we fix this problem? Simple. If we increase the stats of the Scout frames, such as speed, stamina, CPU/PG, passive scan radii, etc.; we would make the scouts less OP at being useless than the Commandos. I know you scouts may not want this nerf, but I hope that level headed people can agree that this nerf really needs to happen. Wow This guy!! I was about ready to just kill myself. Nothing worth living for anymore if someone says "scouts need to be nerfed" That's when we know Armageddon is coming.... Must get more milk!!!
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3267	Posted - 2013.12.03 02:15:00 - [25] - Quote My commando fits, as well as my scout fits are effective. Your argument is invalid. My best commando combines an AR with a sniper rifle, and fights at the edge of the clusterfuck. My best gallente scout has insane passive scanning and uses a shotgun. Instead of trying to out-strafe people, I watch my scanners to get the jump on them. My best minmatar scout (and my favorite fit atm) has a sniper rifle, but focuses more on non-combat jobs, such as hacking unguarded objectives and dropping uplinks. One battle, I managed to top my team's scoreboard with it, going 4-0, with about 1500 WP. Much of the battle, I was running between the hills surrounding the objective to the supply depots, since my uplinks were being used so quickly. In my spare time, I was either countersniping, or sniping the uplink spam. We used to have a time machine
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1540	Posted - 2013.12.03 02:46:00 - [26] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: My commando fits, as well as my scout fits are effective. Your argument is invalid. My best commando combines an AR with a sniper rifle, and fights at the edge of the clusterfuck. My best gallente scout has insane passive scanning and uses a shotgun. Instead of trying to out-strafe people, I watch my scanners to get the jump on them. My best minmatar scout (and my favorite fit atm) has a sniper rifle, but focuses more on non-combat jobs, such as hacking unguarded objectives and dropping uplinks. One battle, I managed to top my team's scoreboard with it, going 4-0, with about 1500 WP. Much of the battle, I was running between the hills surrounding the objective to the supply depots, since my uplinks were being used so quickly. In my spare time, I was either countersniping, or sniping the uplink spam. So.... Scout's don't need any of the stuff I mentioned? Okay. Also, I negate this with the fact that being useful on the battlefield and having skill will negate the shortcomings of any class. (Usually, but there are some exceptions) Just look at Assault and Logistics dropship pilots, you think they are perfectly fine as is? They are very succesful but I think we can all agree that those things need a serious buff or re-balance, which is coming SoonGäó My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
ELITE INQUISITOR Eternal Beings 35	Posted - 2013.12.03 04:27:00 - [27] - Quote I looked in here ready to lay into someone. I'm happy with what I saw. Continue on. If you accept your limitations you go beyond them
Ghost Kaisar THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED 940	Posted - 2013.12.03 04:30:00 - [28] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Nerf Scout uselessness! I totally agree! Post #2 I can agree with! "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 704	Posted - 2013.12.03 04:30:00 - [29] - Quote Lawls! Atiim is on a roll tonight. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Tectonic Fusion 647	Posted - 2013.12.03 04:38:00 - [30] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Atiim wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: You had me going there for a minute......... I'm being serious If we don't nerf the Scout class soon, they will be even more OP than the Commandos. Oh no, I see this, but I thought you were saying that the Commando is far more OP when it clearly isn't. They are both ***** useless. That's what the opponent in full prototype was thinking when I owned him with my K5 shotgun in my 'Dragonfly' scout. Solo Player Squad status: Locked**

CharCharOdell 1722	Posted - 2013.12.03 05:06:00 - [31] - Quote You had me at 'nerf' :') Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 67	Posted - 2013.12.03 05:11:00 - [32] - Quote I can has more scan range =D Or a speed buff and suit profile buff! Ohhhhh yeah, first time people start crying about scouts is going to be heaven to me. Were getting good despite being really gimped. Dedicated scout. Caldari loyalist. Pistol supremacy.
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 28	Posted - 2013.12.03 05:22:00 - [33] - Quote Does this mean that Min Scout is more OP than Gal Scout? Nova knifing scout masochist. I would be a sadist, but CCP won't let me.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2614	Posted - 2013.12.03 05:25:00 - [34] - Quote Atiim wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: My commando fits, as well as my scout fits are effective. Your argument is invalid. My best commando combines an AR with a sniper rifle, and fights at the edge of the clusterfuck. My best gallente scout has insane passive scanning and uses a shotgun. Instead of trying to out-strafe people, I watch my scanners to get the jump on them. My best minmatar scout (and my favorite fit atm) has a sniper rifle, but focuses more on non-combat jobs, such as hacking unguarded objectives and dropping uplinks. One battle, I managed to top my team's scoreboard with it, going 4-0, with about 1500 WP. Much of the battle, I was running between the hills surrounding the objective to the supply depots, since my uplinks were being used so quickly. In my spare time, I was either countersniping, or sniping the uplink spam. So.... Scout's don't need any of the stuff I mentioned? Okay. Also, I negate this with the fact that being useful on the battlefield and having skill will negate the shortcomings of any class. (Usually, but there are some exceptions) Just look at Assault and Logistics dropship pilots, you think they are perfectly fine as is? They are very succesful but I think we can all agree that those things need a serious buff or re-balance, which is coming SoonGäó Atiim are you taking my words? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)


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