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Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1387	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:14:00 - [1] - Quote They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 81	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:16:00 - [2] - Quote Why do you feel the need to antagonize and troll? Is being obnoxious really so rewarding?
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1388	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:22:00 - [3] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Why do you feel the need to antagonize and troll? Is being obnoxious really so rewarding? Because that's basically what it comes down to. This is no troll post. Everywhere I look, infantry wants a respec for racial gear. But it's unfair for tankers to get a respec, even though that's their chosen role and have already filled it out. We constantly tell infantry how now it's not 20mil to max out everything, but 60mil. It's been worked out that we need 15mil for only one hull type, and one (large) turret type combined. And even still, infantry says it's not fair that we get a respec. We keep telling them that everything about vehicles has changed, and that still isn't a good enough reason for infantry. I'm getting quite sick of you pompous jerks determining the fate of vehicle pilots. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Cosgar ParagonX 8147	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:30:00 - [4] - Quote Personally I don't really care. I wasted SP on scout LAVs that I might use to finish maxing out my pistol proficiency or something. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1656	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:32:00 - [5] - Quote I haven't seen any "no respecs for tanks" threads, just people also asking for respecs when the new suits are introduced. I'm not asking for a respecs since I like Gallente suits and vehicles and will spec as each one becomes available. Hell, they radically changed the swarm launcher and I'm not asking for a respec. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 638	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:32:00 - [6] - Quote Dont act like a jerk if you want to be taken seriously.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:36:00 - [7] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Dont act like a jerk if you want to be taken seriously. Then infantry should stop saying "no full respec" without providing any reason at all why they're saying that. Because that's what they do. "No full respec for tankers and that's that." Why? Because we'll be unkillable with 25mil into vehicles. If infantry is still shrieking now, imagine when 1.7 drops. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1811	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:36:00 - [8] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Personally I don't really care. I wasted SP on scout LAVs that I might use to finish maxing out my pistol proficiency or something. I know pilots who will do the same as you They may have skilled up a fairly decent HAV or ADS Now that it takes more SP they are forgetting about vehicles and dropping it into infantry where they generally have more SP Some will forget about being a pilot, they may have 10mil or less SP and with that amount they can build a fiarly decent infantry set I may still drop out, 18mil into pure infantry gives me more proto suits and weaopns and choices
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 659	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:42:00 - [9] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Dont act like a jerk if you want to be taken seriously. Then infantry should stop saying "no full respec" without providing any reason at all why they're saying that. Because that's what they do. "No full respec for tankers and that's that." Why? Because we'll be unkillable with 25mil into vehicles. If infantry is still shrieking now, imagine when 1.7 drops. bragging about unkillable tanks is probably not the way to get what you want. Ihope it happens tho. They'll have to redo AV and that's my bread and butter.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 742	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:43:00 - [10] - Quote seriously? you do realize that CCP favors infantry right? and at the slightest provocation they will hit us with the nerf bat so hard we wont profit for builds. don't rub your victory in infantry's face, literally no good can come of it. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:44:00 - [11] - Quote wripple wrote: Don't get me wrong, I have litterally no skill points spent into the Swarms (I use the Dren BPO with complex damage mods) however I don't think that it is fair that vehicles will be getting a respec due to their changes, whereas swarm launchers will be getting none while receiving an equally drastic change. I have quite a few friends who have spent quite a large sum of skill points (some of it with the help of paid boosters) yet it is simply not fair to completely change the weapon without refunding the user for the time and real life money they have invested into it. Imagine buying a red car, then getting a call 3 months later from the dealer that the car has to be painted pink. I no longer want this new pink car, I'd want my money back so I can get a car that I'd much rather want. People don't skill into the item, they skill into the results it provides, do not drastically change the results without reimbursing the user. This is why I made my post. Infantry doesn't pay attention, and says it's not fair for some incredibly stupid reason. This is why we don't respect you. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Cosgar ParagonX 8148	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:48:00 - [12] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Cosgar wrote: Personally I don't really care. I wasted SP on scout LAVs that I might use to finish maxing out my pistol proficiency or something. I know pilots who will do the same as you They may have skilled up a fairly decent HAV or ADS Now that it takes more SP they are forgetting about vehicles and dropping it into infantry where they generally have more SP Some will forget about being a pilot, they may have 10mil or less SP and with that amount they can build a fiarly decent infantry set I may still drop out, 18mil into pure infantry gives me more proto suits and weaopns and choices Don't get me wrong. I'm going to go back into driving again at some point. But what I'm looking for is a long ways off. I want to see support vehicles with more defined roles like artillery, "spotter" vehicles, spider tanking convoys and HOV carriers that can transport armor across the map. For now Dust is just an infantry game that happens to have vehicles. Maybe one day, that will change. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 444	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:49:00 - [13] - Quote since forgeguns stay the same you can just shoot those unkillable vehicles from far away and kill them lol To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1811	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:54:00 - [14] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: seriously? you do realize that CCP favors infantry right? and at the slightest provocation they will hit us with the nerf bat so hard we wont profit for builds. don't rub your victory in infantry's face, literally no good can come of it. We havnt profited from builds for at least 6months Consistant nerfs Its why i may take this partial respec and go full on infantry As good as vehicles may look stats wise how will it play out, how many secret nerfs are under it all, how many nerfs will come if we do dominate because infantry are so ******* stupid
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 347	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:55:00 - [15] - Quote I'm infantry, and I could care less either way. Partial respecs make sense if they mess with the skill tree, and a full respec may happen when they get all the racial stuff in the game just to shut people up. If vehicle people become super powerful, I got more than enough dudes in my Corp to protect me with their own heavy artillery. If vehicle users take a respec to jump to infantry, good luck. It's ******* brutal out here. I've been running close with some of my tankers lately, and i've been having a blast. Whatever buff is given to vehicles come 1.7 is gonna help me just as much as it helps them.
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 18	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:59:00 - [16] - Quote Make tanks tougher. Better suspension or a slot for that. But once you use the sword you die by the sword. If you get WP from the tank (not uplink, ammo re-supply etc) that tank if your team is winning cannot: Stay in a red zone sniping. You want WP go into the war zone. Be recalled. No cowards way out, you put the chips in the poker pot no takeses backses Retreat into the red zone and rebuild. Either modules don't work or you get the 20 second rule. I've seen tanks on the winning side in pub matches camping objectives in the red zone nestled between ridge folds. All is fair in love and war but in war there isn't a red zone to hide in. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company 1098	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:05:00 - [17] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Yes of course, its not because they sakd no full respecs ever or anything! The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1211	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:06:00 - [18] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Intelligent, i doubt it... Unkillable, i doubt that too... Because ive seen how you handle on the field without a tank ...and with scores like 6/1 and 2/2 and anything between that, i doubt you would have enough of that intelligence to make them truely unkillable... You do seem to excell at camping in high up places with a forge gun and sending mail...when you kill me, after i stood still for a whole 5 seconds...i mean i was timing how long it would take for you get that aim on me...5 seconds is truely impressive.. I guess you need that tank to be truely unkillable, since your skills don't make up for much... PS: But infantry being cheaper @ 23m sp vs 25m sp thats a pretty far fetch even for you, if you do get at those SP levels, a few million is just a 3% here and a 2% there.... PPS: Ive seen allot of BS being spouted on here, but boy, do you take the cake ... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:06:00 - [19] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: seriously? you do realize that CCP favors infantry right? and at the slightest provocation they will hit us with the nerf bat so hard we wont profit for builds. don't rub your victory in infantry's face, literally no good can come of it. What victory? I'll still have the SP into infantry. CCP is winning by putting the temptation to go full into infantry, so they can actually work on removing vehicles. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:08:00 - [20] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: Make tanks tougher. Better suspension or a slot for that. But once you use the sword you die by the sword. If you get WP from the tank (not uplink, ammo re-supply etc) that tank if your team is winning cannot: Stay in a red zone sniping. You want WP go into the war zone. Be recalled. No cowards way out, you put the chips in the poker pot no takeses backses Retreat into the red zone and rebuild. Either modules don't work or you get the 20 second rule. I've seen tanks on the winning side in pub matches camping objectives in the red zone nestled between ridge folds. All is fair in love and war but in war there isn't a red zone to hide in. Lol A slot for suspension. How about... you have to have a shield recharger to get any back on your suit, and a regulator to start it. If you'll accept that, I'll accept requiring a slot for suspension. But that's for all suits, at all levels. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.

Kane Fyea 2297	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:11:00 - [21] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: knight of 6 wrote: seriously? you do realize that CCP favors infantry right? and at the slightest provocation they will hit us with the nerf bat so hard we wont profit for builds. don't rub your victory in infantry's face, literally no good can come of it. What victory? I'll still have the SP into infantry. CCP is winning by putting the temptation to go full into infantry, so they can actually work on removing vehicles. You gotta love conspiracy theories.
4447 Resolution XIII 884	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:11:00 - [22] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Don't care if you get a respec. Troll, For lifeGÇª But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:31:00 - [23] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: I haven't seen any "no respecs for tanks" threads, just people also asking for respecs when the new suits are introduced. I'm not asking for a respecs since I like Gallente suits and vehicles and will spec as each one becomes available. Hell, they radically changed the swarm launcher and I'm not asking for a respec. So a full respec for that is okay, but asking for a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles is wrong. They're nerfing swarms for the first time, and deep down inside, you still want a respec. For just a handful of SP. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:33:00 - [24] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Dont act like a jerk if you want to be taken seriously. Then infantry should stop saying "no full respec" without providing any reason at all why they're saying that. Because that's what they do. "No full respec for tankers and that's that." Why? Because we'll be unkillable with 25mil into vehicles. If infantry is still shrieking now, imagine when 1.7 drops. bragging about unkillable tanks is probably not the way to get what you want. Ihope it happens tho. They'll have to redo AV and that's my bread and butter. Like I've said, infantry still complains that tanks are too hard. Conditions? Solo and ambush. The problem isn't with us. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 640	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:37:00 - [25] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Dont act like a jerk if you want to be taken seriously. Then infantry should stop saying "no full respec" without providing any reason at all why they're saying that. Because that's what they do. "No full respec for tankers and that's that." Why? Because we'll be unkillable with 25mil into vehicles. If infantry is still shrieking now, imagine when 1.7 drops. Theres no reason for a full respec, only vehicles are changing.
HYENAKILLER X TEAM SHINOBI 355	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:44:00 - [26] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Chances are if you rely on vehicles for kills you prolly suck as a player. Also ever notice how no one really ever used av missles? You guys arent good. Av missle suit were worthless after tanks died. Im sure though there are bragging rights somewhere about whiping out teams of all "no av infantry". You are welcome for my leadership
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1658	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:55:00 - [27] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: I haven't seen any "no respecs for tanks" threads, just people also asking for respecs when the new suits are introduced. I'm not asking for a respecs since I like Gallente suits and vehicles and will spec as each one becomes available. Hell, they radically changed the swarm launcher and I'm not asking for a respec. So a full respec for that is okay, but asking for a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles is wrong. They're nerfing swarms for the first time, and deep down inside, you still want a respec. For just a handful of SP. No, they are nerfing swarms AGAIN. Look I'm not gonna argue with you. You are they most dense person on the forum, and you will never be happy till takes rule the field. You care nothing about balance or other vehicles. You want current tanks(or better yet, crome tanks) and NO AV WHAT SO EVER. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:55:00 - [28] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Yes of course, its not because they sakd no full respecs ever or anything! We had a respec for Uprising, because they changed everything. Why is it unreasonable to want a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 370	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:55:00 - [29] - Quote Tanks are pretty damn good man. They can already be pretty damn unkillable. The respect is because of the skill changes, not because ccp doesn't want you to use vehicles.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:58:00 - [30] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Intelligent, i doubt it... Unkillable, i doubt that too... Because ive seen how you handle on the field without a tank ...and with scores like 6/1 and 2/2 and anything between that, i doubt you would have enough of that intelligence to make them truely unkillable... You do seem to excell at camping in high up places with a forge gun and sending mail...when you kill me, after i stood still for a whole 5 seconds...i mean i was timing how long it would take for you get that aim on me...5 seconds is truely impressive.. I guess you need that tank to be truely unkillable, since your skills don't make up for much... PS: But infantry being cheaper @ 23m sp vs 25m sp thats a pretty far fetch even for you, if you do get at those SP levels, a few million is just a 3% here and a 2% there.... PPS: Ive seen allot of BS being spouted on here, but boy, do you take the cake ... Well, with scrubs like you that need the PRO crutch to kill noobs, why should I bother using ISK suits? The only access I have to PRO weapons are forge guns. Would you like to do a dance of death while I'm raining down plasma on you? Or would you prefer to try to run away from my tank? I don't need the PRO crutch to be effective. You obviously do. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:59:00 - [31] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: knight of 6 wrote: seriously? you do realize that CCP favors infantry right? and at the slightest provocation they will hit us with the nerf bat so hard we wont profit for builds. don't rub your victory in infantry's face, literally no good can come of it. What victory? I'll still have the SP into infantry. CCP is winning by putting the temptation to go full into infantry, so they can actually work on removing vehicles. You gotta love conspiracy theories. It's a logical conclusion. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 22:09:00 - [32] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Dont act like a jerk if you want to be taken seriously. Then infantry should stop saying "no full respec" without providing any reason at all why they're saying that. Because that's what they do. "No full respec for tankers and that's that." Why? Because we'll be unkillable with 25mil into vehicles. If infantry is still shrieking now, imagine when 1.7 drops. Theres no reason for a full respec, only vehicles are changing. How many times................................................ I chose my role. I filled it up. I went for a SECONDARY role because nothing else was on the horizon for vehicles. Tanks are expensive, and aggravating when you lose them to scrubs that need the game to aim for them with swarms and AV grenades. They're not changing anything about infantry for the foreseeable future. They're changing vehicles soon. Why is it unreasonable that we shouldn't get the SP out of a secondary role, to put it into our chosen role? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 22:10:00 - [33] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Chances are if you rely on vehicles for kills you prolly suck as a player. Also ever notice how no one really ever used av missles? You guys arent good. Av missle suit were worthless after tanks died. Im sure though there are bragging rights somewhere about whiping out teams of all "no av infantry". LOL I suck because that's my chosen role? Then I can freely say you're terrible at your chosen role. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 22:11:00 - [34] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: I haven't seen any "no respecs for tanks" threads, just people also asking for respecs when the new suits are introduced. I'm not asking for a respecs since I like Gallente suits and vehicles and will spec as each one becomes available. Hell, they radically changed the swarm launcher and I'm not asking for a respec. So a full respec for that is okay, but asking for a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles is wrong. They're nerfing swarms for the first time, and deep down inside, you still want a respec. For just a handful of SP. No, they are nerfing swarms AGAIN. Look I'm not gonna argue with you. You are they most dense person on the forum, and you will never be happy till takes rule the field. You care nothing about balance or other vehicles. You want current tanks(or better yet, crome tanks) and NO AV WHAT SO EVER. Tell me how it's unfair that we were able to so easily destroy other tanks with railguns. I want to see this explanation. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 22:11:00 - [35] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Tanks are pretty damn good man. They can already be pretty damn unkillable. The respect is because of the skill changes, not because ccp doesn't want you to use vehicles. Tanks are unkillable if you're camping in the redline with a railgun. I don't do that. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company 1098	Posted - 2013.12.01 22:19:00 - [36] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Yes of course, its not because they sakd no full respecs ever or anything! We had a respec for Uprising, because they changed everything. Why is it unreasonable to want a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles? Vehicles != Everything Everything != Vehicles Thats why, change everything about vehicles changes you vehicle respec. Thats why, change everything about weapons changes you weapons respec. Thats why, change everything about dropsuit changes you dropsuit respec. Thats why, change everything aboht EVERYTHING changes you EVERYTHING respec. Simples ;) The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1392	Posted - 2013.12.01 22:35:00 - [37] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Yes of course, its not because they sakd no full respecs ever or anything! We had a respec for Uprising, because they changed everything. Why is it unreasonable to want a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles? Vehicles != Everything Everything != Vehicles Thats why, change everything about vehicles changes you vehicle respec. Thats why, change everything about weapons changes you weapons respec. Thats why, change everything about dropsuit changes you dropsuit respec. Thats why, change everything aboht EVERYTHING changes you EVERYTHING respec. Simples ;) I don't have a clue what you just said. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company 1098	Posted - 2013.12.01 22:38:00 - [38] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Yes of course, its not because they sakd no full respecs ever or anything! We had a respec for Uprising, because they changed everything. Why is it unreasonable to want a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles? Vehicles != Everything Everything != Vehicles Thats why, change everything about vehicles changes you vehicle respec. Thats why, change everything about weapons changes you weapons respec. Thats why, change everything about dropsuit changes you dropsuit respec. Thats why, change everything aboht EVERYTHING changes you EVERYTHING respec. Simples ;) I don't have a clue what you just said. You don't get a full respec unless everything is changed, its vehicle changes therefore you get vehicle respec. The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1815	Posted - 2013.12.02 11:47:00 - [39] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Yes of course, its not because they sakd no full respecs ever or anything! We had a respec for Uprising, because they changed everything. Why is it unreasonable to want a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles? Vehicles != Everything Everything != Vehicles Thats why, change everything about vehicles changes you vehicle respec. Thats why, change everything about weapons changes you weapons respec. Thats why, change everything about dropsuit changes you dropsuit respec. Thats why, change everything aboht EVERYTHING changes you EVERYTHING respec. Simples ;) Your wrong tho They are completely changing the vehicle tree in 1.7 and making the SP sink bigger by a factor of 3 I choose my role 6months ago at least and was skilling into it, after i had maxed out my tree i went into infantry as a secondary role Now they are expanding the tree and making the sink bigger If i knew about this 6months ago i would have never gone infantry, but its too late, i made my choice and CCP decided to **** me over 6months later on I need a full respec because i wanted to go full on vehicle specialist, i did that once already but now CCP has decided that i need to more SP into it when its already been used
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1218	Posted - 2013.12.02 11:52:00 - [40] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Yes of course, its not because they sakd no full respecs ever or anything! We had a respec for Uprising, because they changed everything. Why is it unreasonable to want a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles? Vehicles != Everything Everything != Vehicles Thats why, change everything about vehicles changes you vehicle respec. Thats why, change everything about weapons changes you weapons respec. Thats why, change everything about dropsuit changes you dropsuit respec. Thats why, change everything aboht EVERYTHING changes you EVERYTHING respec. Simples ;) Your wrong tho They are completely changing the vehicle tree in 1.7 and making the SP sink bigger by a factor of 3 I choose my role 6months ago at least and was skilling into it, after i had maxed out my tree i went into infantry as a secondary role Now they are expanding the tree and making the sink bigger If i knew about this 6months ago i would have never gone infantry, but its too late, i made my choice and CCP decided to **** me over 6months later on I need a full respec because i wanted to go full on vehicle specialist, i did that once already but now CCP has decided that i need to more SP into it when its already been used Yeah well, i would also like my SP back from the useless level 5 shield regulator skills and Armor repair thats 3-4m sp in there that sees no use due to the increased Hit Detection fixes, i am sure theres more skills like that, also everyone who wanted a Rail Rifle from day one has to save sp for it... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"

Echoist Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 91	Posted - 2013.12.02 12:07:00 - [41] - Quote Hmm I think you're being too judgemental on infantry, remember if there were no boots on the ground who would hack objectives, who would kill those pesky AV users in those hard to reach areas. Anyways I'm an infantry and AV user, but I think vechicle users should get a respec simply because they are revamping just about everything in that area.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 297	Posted - 2013.12.02 13:02:00 - [42] - Quote Hmm vehicle users get a refund on evry skill that gets changes or removed thats more than infantry got for a while. So I don't see the problem here.... So basicly you are upset because you have spent SP into Infantry skills and want to put those into vehicles, that would be fine but what is with all those Infantrymen that want to put THEIR SP in the new rebalanced vehicles? So IF a full respec than it should be granted to everyone, so those stuck in vehicles could go vehices again or infantry and those stuck in infantry get the chance to put their SP into vehicles.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1104	Posted - 2013.12.02 13:26:00 - [43] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Yes of course, its not because they sakd no full respecs ever or anything! We had a respec for Uprising, because they changed everything. Why is it unreasonable to want a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles? Vehicles != Everything Everything != Vehicles Thats why, change everything about vehicles changes you vehicle respec. Thats why, change everything about weapons changes you weapons respec. Thats why, change everything about dropsuit changes you dropsuit respec. Thats why, change everything aboht EVERYTHING changes you EVERYTHING respec. Simples ;) Your wrong tho They are completely changing the vehicle tree in 1.7 and making the SP sink bigger by a factor of 3 I choose my role 6months ago at least and was skilling into it, after i had maxed out my tree i went into infantry as a secondary role Now they are expanding the tree and making the sink bigger If i knew about this 6months ago i would have never gone infantry, but its too late, i made my choice and CCP decided to **** me over 6months later on I need a full respec because i wanted to go full on vehicle specialist, i did that once already but now CCP has decided that i need to more SP into it when its already been used That doesn't change the statement. Thats why, change everything about vehicles changes you vehicle respec. It's not their problem you put SP elsewhere. But something to consider, spkr said you could max out the HAV relevant skills with 20mill SP. Now it takes 18mill to get one hull and one turret. Do you not think they are trying to give you a hint here? Since we have changed vehicles so much we are going to give users a respec, this is designed so they can choose the role their HAV will be capable of, as we suggested in the vehicle changes posts They don't want you maxed out on tanks right away, they want you to take a specialization and stick with it. Just like Infantry spec into 1 weapon 1 dropsuit and 1 role first. I wouldn't expect a Proto Heavy to turn around and switch into Minja suit. I wouldn't expect a Dropship Pilot to suddenly pullout a gunship. And I wouldn't expect a tank to disappear, then reappear in whole new tank every time the threat re of war changes. And before you say anything about assault suits, they are meant to be easily changeable weapons, but you rarely change suit The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1827	Posted - 2013.12.02 15:35:00 - [44] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: That doesn't change the statement. Thats why, change everything about vehicles changes you vehicle respec. It's not their problem you put SP elsewhere. But something to consider, spkr said you could max out the HAV relevant skills with 20mill SP. Now it takes 18mill to get one hull and one turret. Do you not think they are trying to give you a hint here? Since we have changed vehicles so much we are going to give users a respec, this is designed so they can choose the role their HAV will be capable of, as we suggested in the vehicle changes posts They don't want you maxed out on tanks right away, they want you to take a specialization and stick with it. Just like Infantry spec into 1 weapon 1 dropsuit and 1 role first. I wouldn't expect a Proto Heavy to turn around and switch into Minja suit. I wouldn't expect a Dropship Pilot to suddenly pullout a gunship. And I wouldn't expect a tank to disappear, then reappear in whole new tank every time the threat re of war changes. And before you say anything about assault suits, they are meant to be easily changeable weapons, but you rarely change suit Wrong Infantry SP changes were done a long time ago before you could fully spec it out How is it my fault that i happened to finish the vehicle tree out and then skill up a secondary role Am i supposed to hold onto my SP for a year and a half just to see if something would turn up or change The game is a beta at best and things are changing and the vehicle shake up has been the biggest since release but only until all the vehicle pilots made up there minds, specced out the tree and then went to skill other things up Even me 32mil SP and counting will still not be able to max out the vehicle tree, i will be lucky if i get halfway through it but for that to happen i need a full respec, not because of my mistakes because i made none, but because of CCP mistakes deciding to completely change it all around 6months after we had decided what we picked and specced out the vehicle tree
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 248	Posted - 2013.12.02 16:52:00 - [45] - Quote I know this is fire in the oil but, its not like you lost skill points on infantry, you just have another role at hand and because tanks are so expensive I doubt that you are ONLY sitting in your tank. So basically you did not lose anything, you gained a secondary role in the game. If I got it right its now something about 15 mil to spec into one kind of a tank and turret and the core skills. You also want your tank to clearly dominate Infantry. It took me around 14 million to spec our my assaukt fitting with coreskills 1 light weapon, 1 equip and one secondary. If you want your tank to be such an incredible powerful thing, isn't it fair that you HAVE to invest more SP/ISK to get a bigger advantage? I'm totally against respecs unless they do big changes, so the tank respec is justified for nem but why should you get a full respec? its not like they changed infantry so hard to justify it, again, your decision to spec into infantry. The inly guys who have a right to complain are swarmer guys or maybe even forges, because those are Av weapons, designed to fight against vehicles, so if there is a drastical change to vehicles, this automatically affects av, even without splitting the dmg of a weapon in half. I dont know, but for some reason I got the feeling that you dont know how it is to fight as infantry, you complain about forges and auto lock on swarm, guess what? If I run around in my ~200k ISK proto suit, there is a chance it just goes pop and a thales got me, so what? thats the game, and as infantry you die so incredibly fast at the moment, and it doesnt matter how expensive your gear is. Dangit, they focus on changing your beloved vehicles and instead of being lucky about it you still complain, man if I would not have proto swarm already, you'd be the reason for my to skill into them. another one bites the Dust...
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 444	Posted - 2013.12.02 16:55:00 - [46] - Quote I come back after a few months waiting for CCP to delievery something, first thing I see on the forums is Spkr still being a tanker crutch abusing *****. Seriously dude, chill out and please for the love of jebus stfu.
Toby Flenderson research lab 115	Posted - 2013.12.02 17:15:00 - [47] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Why do you feel the need to antagonize and troll? Is being obnoxious really so rewarding? Because that's basically what it comes down to. This is no troll post. Everywhere I look, infantry wants a respec for racial gear. But it's unfair for tankers to get a respec, even though that's their chosen role and have already filled it out. We constantly tell infantry how now it's not 20mil to max out everything, but 60mil. It's been worked out that we need 15mil for only one hull type, and one (large) turret type combined. And even still, infantry says it's not fair that we get a respec. We keep telling them that everything about vehicles has changed, and that still isn't a good enough reason for infantry. I'm getting quite sick of you pompous jerks determining the fate of vehicle pilots. I don't think I've seen someone say "it's stupid that vehicles are getting a partial respect for the skills that don't exist anymore". I'm only seeing people complain that they too are not getting a partial respect on AV or a full respec once all the racial gear is out. I think a respec would be nice but I don't care if I don't get one. I do however think that the skills used in vehicles should remain in vehicles. The respec should not allow a tanker to decide to go into suits if someone who went into suits cannot decide to go into tanking at the same time. I don't know why you anyone is complaining about how much SP is needed to max out tanks. They're tanks. They're not drop suits. They're mobile death machines. If you want to pilot something like that on a regular basis against infantry then I think the ISK/SP dedication is a good thing. It shouldn't be easy by any means to max out a tank otherwise everyone would do it. This game shouldn't just be tanks on a field, it should be infantry and vehicles in a ratio that doesn't make this game all about one or the other. The appeal to steamroll in a tank is balanced by the SP/ISK required to make it your main strategy. And who wouldn't be afraid of a tank that couldn't be destroyed? Of course people would resist that. One ******* pulling out a tank should not mean that a quarter of the enemy team must divert all attention to him in order to stop him from steamrolling the entire team for 15 minutes. I think that there needs to be balance, yes, but tanks should be destroyable and not only by a group of enemies.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1105	Posted - 2013.12.02 17:23:00 - [48] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: That doesn't change the statement. Thats why, change everything about vehicles changes you vehicle respec. It's not their problem you put SP elsewhere. But something to consider, spkr said you could max out the HAV relevant skills with 20mill SP. Now it takes 18mill to get one hull and one turret. Do you not think they are trying to give you a hint here? Since we have changed vehicles so much we are going to give users a respec, this is designed so they can choose the role their HAV will be capable of, as we suggested in the vehicle changes posts They don't want you maxed out on tanks right away, they want you to take a specialization and stick with it. Just like Infantry spec into 1 weapon 1 dropsuit and 1 role first. I wouldn't expect a Proto Heavy to turn around and switch into Minja suit. I wouldn't expect a Dropship Pilot to suddenly pullout a gunship. And I wouldn't expect a tank to disappear, then reappear in whole new tank every time the threat re of war changes. And before you say anything about assault suits, they are meant to be easily changeable weapons, but you rarely change suit Wrong Infantry SP changes were done a long time ago before you could fully spec it out How is it my fault that i happened to finish the vehicle tree out and then skill up a secondary role Am i supposed to hold onto my SP for a year and a half just to see if something would turn up or change The game is a beta at best and things are changing and the vehicle shake up has been the biggest since release but only until all the vehicle pilots made up there minds, specced out the tree and then went to skill other things up Even me 32mil SP and counting will still not be able to max out the vehicle tree, i will be lucky if i get halfway through it but for that to happen i need a full respec, not because of my mistakes because i made none, but because of CCP mistakes deciding to completely change it all around 6months after we had decided what we picked and specced out the vehicle tree Well I want the combat rifle, I saved my SP for that, for months, I've got a nice 500,000 sitting in the bank just waiting for 1.7 if I had spent that in vehicles because i had maxed out my desired weapons, I wouldn't expect that SP back. I'll say it again and again until you get it. Your SP you spent on Vehicles is being refunded because that is being changed, if CCP want to increase the grind to get the good **** that's their prerogative and you have to sit and deal with it, just like everyone else does. Be glad your even getting a partial respec, CCP had said they would give no more. The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1416	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:37:00 - [49] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: I come back after a few months waiting for CCP to delievery something, first thing I see on the forums is Spkr still being a tanker crutch abusing *****. Seriously dude, chill out and please for the love of jebus stfu. How is it a crutch when a single hit from PRO AV takes out 1/3 of our HP? Crutch users are the ones that rely on the game to aim for them. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1416	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:46:00 - [50] - Quote Echoist wrote: Hmm I think you're being too judgemental on infantry, remember if there were no boots on the ground who would hack objectives, who would kill those pesky AV users in those hard to reach areas. Anyways I'm an infantry and AV user, but I think vechicle users should get a respec simply because they are revamping just about everything in that area. That's why there's a limit of 7 vehicles per team. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.

Jammer Jalapeno BIG BAD W0LVES 73	Posted - 2013.12.02 21:04:00 - [51] - Quote I've never seen a tank I couldn't kill.....actually looking forward to 1.7 It will be like Christmas...bunch of cocky dudes on the field rolling around thinking their invincible. MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs
CharCharOdell 1718	Posted - 2013.12.02 21:37:00 - [52] - Quote I'm a tanker and I want everyone to get a respec because it is fair. I could fully spec 2 suits or 5 weapons with the so I'll get back. You bet your ass I'll get the new FOTM so why can't the infantry? Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 252	Posted - 2013.12.02 21:40:00 - [53] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Why do you feel the need to antagonize and troll? Is being obnoxious really so rewarding? Because that's basically what it comes down to. This is no troll post. Everywhere I look, infantry wants a respec for racial gear. But it's unfair for tankers to get a respec, even though that's their chosen role and have already filled it out. We constantly tell infantry how now it's not 20mil to max out everything, but 60mil. It's been worked out that we need 15mil for only one hull type, and one (large) turret type combined. And even still, infantry says it's not fair that we get a respec. We keep telling them that everything about vehicles has changed, and that still isn't a good enough reason for infantry. I'm getting quite sick of you pompous jerks determining the fate of vehicle pilots. Didn't read entire thread, so sorry if this has been mentioned: There are several tankers who want a FULL respec for everyone, myself included. I'm getting my vehicle SP's back, so IDC about myself, though with a full respec, I'd get my points out of AR's and put that nearly 2M SP's elsewhere. And what about the infantry who want INTO tanks? You want to ignore them? Bad call. Names of playstyles
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 595	Posted - 2013.12.02 21:45:00 - [54] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Why do you feel the need to antagonize and troll? Is being obnoxious really so rewarding? Because that's basically what it comes down to. This is no troll post. Everywhere I look, infantry wants a respec for racial gear. But it's unfair for tankers to get a respec, even though that's their chosen role and have already filled it out. We constantly tell infantry how now it's not 20mil to max out everything, but 60mil. It's been worked out that we need 15mil for only one hull type, and one (large) turret type combined. And even still, infantry says it's not fair that we get a respec. We keep telling them that everything about vehicles has changed, and that still isn't a good enough reason for infantry. I'm getting quite sick of you pompous jerks determining the fate of vehicle pilots. Hey now im a logi and i have no problems with you vehicle guys getting a respec. You guys went through alot of trash these past months and i truly believe a vehicle respec is in order. Would i like full respec of course but thats besides the point. You deserve it. Any one who cries about it is a coward and is afraid of what could happen. I do look foward to keeping your vehicles functioning and battle ready
True Adamance Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4475	Posted - 2013.12.02 21:46:00 - [55] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Why do you feel the need to antagonize and troll? Is being obnoxious really so rewarding? Because that's basically what it comes down to. This is no troll post. Everywhere I look, infantry wants a respec for racial gear. But it's unfair for tankers to get a respec, even though that's their chosen role and have already filled it out. We constantly tell infantry how now it's not 20mil to max out everything, but 60mil. It's been worked out that we need 15mil for only one hull type, and one (large) turret type combined. And even still, infantry says it's not fair that we get a respec. We keep telling them that everything about vehicles has changed, and that still isn't a good enough reason for infantry. I'm getting quite sick of you pompous jerks determining the fate of vehicle pilots. Didn't read entire thread, so sorry if this has been mentioned: There are several tankers who want a FULL respec for everyone, myself included. I'm getting my vehicle SP's back, so IDC about myself, though with a full respec, I'd get my points out of AR's and put that nearly 2M SP's elsewhere. And what about the infantry who want INTO tanks? You want to ignore them? Bad call. No one wants to get into tanks.....that would be stupid.....but people who are already into them know no other way..... I was an idiot to skill into them.....but they're the only thing I'm good at.... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 622	Posted - 2013.12.02 21:48:00 - [56] - Quote LOL breach forge gun ELL OH ELL Spkr you still all baddy bad running your mouth on these forums, STILL?
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 252	Posted - 2013.12.02 21:49:00 - [57] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Why do you feel the need to antagonize and troll? Is being obnoxious really so rewarding? Because that's basically what it comes down to. This is no troll post. Everywhere I look, infantry wants a respec for racial gear. But it's unfair for tankers to get a respec, even though that's their chosen role and have already filled it out. We constantly tell infantry how now it's not 20mil to max out everything, but 60mil. It's been worked out that we need 15mil for only one hull type, and one (large) turret type combined. And even still, infantry says it's not fair that we get a respec. We keep telling them that everything about vehicles has changed, and that still isn't a good enough reason for infantry. I'm getting quite sick of you pompous jerks determining the fate of vehicle pilots. Didn't read entire thread, so sorry if this has been mentioned: There are several tankers who want a FULL respec for everyone, myself included. I'm getting my vehicle SP's back, so IDC about myself, though with a full respec, I'd get my points out of AR's and put that nearly 2M SP's elsewhere. And what about the infantry who want INTO tanks? You want to ignore them? Bad call. No one wants to get into tanks.....that would be stupid.....but people who are already into them know no other way..... I was an idiot to skill into them.....but they're the only thing I'm good at.... All due respect, Kador, but I have met a few people (some in my corp) who are curious. Names of playstyles
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution 2448	Posted - 2013.12.02 21:49:00 - [58] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. I don't most infantry cares enough about tanks to make that kind of tin foil stance.
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 63	Posted - 2013.12.02 22:00:00 - [59] - Quote Think I might be one of the few people looking forward to all the content in 1.7 Vehicle skills respec means I can switch from armor into shield tanks and fix that couple hundred skill point **** up I did by putting them into the wrong bubble. Ar nerf means my scout main (this account) will be able to manuver better without being killed from as far outside of my range, or at least as often. Friend of mine is speccing into the combat rifles to try them And ill be speccing into rail rifles for my scout to have a bit of range and play with them a little. Its gonna be a nice day on the 10th Dedicated scout. Caldari loyalist. Pistol supremacy.
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 22	Posted - 2013.12.02 22:04:00 - [60] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Tch Tch wrote: Make tanks tougher. Better suspension or a slot for that. But once you use the sword you die by the sword. If you get WP from the tank (not uplink, ammo re-supply etc) that tank if your team is winning cannot: Stay in a red zone sniping. You want WP go into the war zone. Be recalled. No cowards way out, you put the chips in the poker pot no takeses backses Retreat into the red zone and rebuild. Either modules don't work or you get the 20 second rule. I've seen tanks on the winning side in pub matches camping objectives in the red zone nestled between ridge folds. All is fair in love and war but in war there isn't a red zone to hide in. Lol A slot for suspension. How about... you have to have a shield recharger to get any back on your suit, and a regulator to start it. If you'll accept that, I'll accept requiring a slot for suspension. But that's for all suits, at all levels. I'm not talking a suspension nerf. I'm saying give tanks the ability to roll over non-mine pebbles and not explode. Even on the opposite side I'd love to see tanks going off road and bouncing along without falling apart. It's funny to see all the tanks being tracked vehicles but staying to the road. I want to see tougher more terrain able vehicles. But the flip side is they can't retreat without consequences. They are war vehicles and I'm sure CONCORD would have something to say about tanks rolling around in neutral (red zone) districts so a CONCORD Orbital if you redline snipe and a bill for the ammo. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.

Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 595	Posted - 2013.12.02 22:23:00 - [61] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Why do you feel the need to antagonize and troll? Is being obnoxious really so rewarding? Because that's basically what it comes down to. This is no troll post. Everywhere I look, infantry wants a respec for racial gear. But it's unfair for tankers to get a respec, even though that's their chosen role and have already filled it out. We constantly tell infantry how now it's not 20mil to max out everything, but 60mil. It's been worked out that we need 15mil for only one hull type, and one (large) turret type combined. And even still, infantry says it's not fair that we get a respec. We keep telling them that everything about vehicles has changed, and that still isn't a good enough reason for infantry. I'm getting quite sick of you pompous jerks determining the fate of vehicle pilots. Man to be honest im tired of this community split. Im an infantry player at heart but i love vehicles. Why cant people just accept that this vehicle respec is for the better? Im not gonna lie though i do not look forward to getting blasted by demon ultra marine dreadnought vehicle commanders .
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 22	Posted - 2013.12.02 22:30:00 - [62] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Tch Tch wrote: Make tanks tougher. Better suspension or a slot for that. But once you use the sword you die by the sword. If you get WP from the tank (not uplink, ammo re-supply etc) that tank if your team is winning cannot: Stay in a red zone sniping. You want WP go into the war zone. Be recalled. No cowards way out, you put the chips in the poker pot no takeses backses Retreat into the red zone and rebuild. Either modules don't work or you get the 20 second rule. I've seen tanks on the winning side in pub matches camping objectives in the red zone nestled between ridge folds. All is fair in love and war but in war there isn't a red zone to hide in. Lol A slot for suspension. How about... you have to have a shield recharger to get any back on your suit, and a regulator to start it. If you'll accept that, I'll accept requiring a slot for suspension. But that's for all suits, at all levels. Comprehension is strong with this one. "Better suspension or a slot for that." - I want tanks to go off road and not blow up hitting a pebble... Well other then my mines that is :) So give tanks better off road ability and /or enhanced suspension abilities that allow them much greater ability to fall/roll/ steadier aim while doing so. That's the equivalent of stamina or kincats for infantry. Not asking for a nerf asking for the ability to make tanks with treads go off road. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 762	Posted - 2013.12.02 23:16:00 - [63] - Quote Is Spkr talking out of his arse yet again? He is known for doing that. If I only kept the rage mail he sent me (and everyone else who shot him dead) in MAG, it would make for an interesting read indeed! PurificationGäó It's what I do.
True Adamance Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4479	Posted - 2013.12.02 23:24:00 - [64] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Is Spkr talking out of his arse yet again? He is known for doing that. If I only kept the rage mail he sent me (and everyone else who shot him dead) in MAG, it would make for an interesting read indeed! RAVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"


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