DUST Search - Why infantry doesn't want tankers to get a full respec

Rei Shepard wrote:

Spkr4theDead wrote:

They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks.

The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper."

Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up.

Intelligent, i doubt it...
Unkillable, i doubt that too...

Because ive seen how you handle on the field without a tank ...and with scores like 6/1 and 2/2 and anything between that, i doubt you would have enough of that intelligence to make them truely unkillable...

You do seem to excell at camping in high up places with a forge gun and sending mail...when you kill me, after i stood still for a whole 5 seconds...i mean i was timing how long it would take for you get that aim on me...5 seconds is truely impressive..

I guess you need that tank to be truely unkillable, since your skills don't make up for much...

PS: But infantry being cheaper @ 23m sp vs 25m sp thats a pretty far fetch even for you, if you do get at those SP levels, a few million is just a 3% here and a 2% there....

PPS: Ive seen allot of BS being spouted on here, but boy, do you take the cake ...

Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.

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Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1387	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:14:00 - [1] - Quote They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 81	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:16:00 - [2] - Quote Why do you feel the need to antagonize and troll? Is being obnoxious really so rewarding?
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1388	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:22:00 - [3] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Why do you feel the need to antagonize and troll? Is being obnoxious really so rewarding? Because that's basically what it comes down to. This is no troll post. Everywhere I look, infantry wants a respec for racial gear. But it's unfair for tankers to get a respec, even though that's their chosen role and have already filled it out. We constantly tell infantry how now it's not 20mil to max out everything, but 60mil. It's been worked out that we need 15mil for only one hull type, and one (large) turret type combined. And even still, infantry says it's not fair that we get a respec. We keep telling them that everything about vehicles has changed, and that still isn't a good enough reason for infantry. I'm getting quite sick of you pompous jerks determining the fate of vehicle pilots. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Cosgar ParagonX 8147	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:30:00 - [4] - Quote Personally I don't really care. I wasted SP on scout LAVs that I might use to finish maxing out my pistol proficiency or something. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1656	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:32:00 - [5] - Quote I haven't seen any "no respecs for tanks" threads, just people also asking for respecs when the new suits are introduced. I'm not asking for a respecs since I like Gallente suits and vehicles and will spec as each one becomes available. Hell, they radically changed the swarm launcher and I'm not asking for a respec. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 638	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:32:00 - [6] - Quote Dont act like a jerk if you want to be taken seriously.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:36:00 - [7] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Dont act like a jerk if you want to be taken seriously. Then infantry should stop saying "no full respec" without providing any reason at all why they're saying that. Because that's what they do. "No full respec for tankers and that's that." Why? Because we'll be unkillable with 25mil into vehicles. If infantry is still shrieking now, imagine when 1.7 drops. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1811	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:36:00 - [8] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Personally I don't really care. I wasted SP on scout LAVs that I might use to finish maxing out my pistol proficiency or something. I know pilots who will do the same as you They may have skilled up a fairly decent HAV or ADS Now that it takes more SP they are forgetting about vehicles and dropping it into infantry where they generally have more SP Some will forget about being a pilot, they may have 10mil or less SP and with that amount they can build a fiarly decent infantry set I may still drop out, 18mil into pure infantry gives me more proto suits and weaopns and choices
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 659	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:42:00 - [9] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Dont act like a jerk if you want to be taken seriously. Then infantry should stop saying "no full respec" without providing any reason at all why they're saying that. Because that's what they do. "No full respec for tankers and that's that." Why? Because we'll be unkillable with 25mil into vehicles. If infantry is still shrieking now, imagine when 1.7 drops. bragging about unkillable tanks is probably not the way to get what you want. Ihope it happens tho. They'll have to redo AV and that's my bread and butter.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 742	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:43:00 - [10] - Quote seriously? you do realize that CCP favors infantry right? and at the slightest provocation they will hit us with the nerf bat so hard we wont profit for builds. don't rub your victory in infantry's face, literally no good can come of it. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:44:00 - [11] - Quote wripple wrote: Don't get me wrong, I have litterally no skill points spent into the Swarms (I use the Dren BPO with complex damage mods) however I don't think that it is fair that vehicles will be getting a respec due to their changes, whereas swarm launchers will be getting none while receiving an equally drastic change. I have quite a few friends who have spent quite a large sum of skill points (some of it with the help of paid boosters) yet it is simply not fair to completely change the weapon without refunding the user for the time and real life money they have invested into it. Imagine buying a red car, then getting a call 3 months later from the dealer that the car has to be painted pink. I no longer want this new pink car, I'd want my money back so I can get a car that I'd much rather want. People don't skill into the item, they skill into the results it provides, do not drastically change the results without reimbursing the user. This is why I made my post. Infantry doesn't pay attention, and says it's not fair for some incredibly stupid reason. This is why we don't respect you. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Cosgar ParagonX 8148	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:48:00 - [12] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Cosgar wrote: Personally I don't really care. I wasted SP on scout LAVs that I might use to finish maxing out my pistol proficiency or something. I know pilots who will do the same as you They may have skilled up a fairly decent HAV or ADS Now that it takes more SP they are forgetting about vehicles and dropping it into infantry where they generally have more SP Some will forget about being a pilot, they may have 10mil or less SP and with that amount they can build a fiarly decent infantry set I may still drop out, 18mil into pure infantry gives me more proto suits and weaopns and choices Don't get me wrong. I'm going to go back into driving again at some point. But what I'm looking for is a long ways off. I want to see support vehicles with more defined roles like artillery, "spotter" vehicles, spider tanking convoys and HOV carriers that can transport armor across the map. For now Dust is just an infantry game that happens to have vehicles. Maybe one day, that will change. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 444	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:49:00 - [13] - Quote since forgeguns stay the same you can just shoot those unkillable vehicles from far away and kill them lol To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1811	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:54:00 - [14] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: seriously? you do realize that CCP favors infantry right? and at the slightest provocation they will hit us with the nerf bat so hard we wont profit for builds. don't rub your victory in infantry's face, literally no good can come of it. We havnt profited from builds for at least 6months Consistant nerfs Its why i may take this partial respec and go full on infantry As good as vehicles may look stats wise how will it play out, how many secret nerfs are under it all, how many nerfs will come if we do dominate because infantry are so ******* stupid
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 347	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:55:00 - [15] - Quote I'm infantry, and I could care less either way. Partial respecs make sense if they mess with the skill tree, and a full respec may happen when they get all the racial stuff in the game just to shut people up. If vehicle people become super powerful, I got more than enough dudes in my Corp to protect me with their own heavy artillery. If vehicle users take a respec to jump to infantry, good luck. It's ******* brutal out here. I've been running close with some of my tankers lately, and i've been having a blast. Whatever buff is given to vehicles come 1.7 is gonna help me just as much as it helps them.
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 18	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:59:00 - [16] - Quote Make tanks tougher. Better suspension or a slot for that. But once you use the sword you die by the sword. If you get WP from the tank (not uplink, ammo re-supply etc) that tank if your team is winning cannot: Stay in a red zone sniping. You want WP go into the war zone. Be recalled. No cowards way out, you put the chips in the poker pot no takeses backses Retreat into the red zone and rebuild. Either modules don't work or you get the 20 second rule. I've seen tanks on the winning side in pub matches camping objectives in the red zone nestled between ridge folds. All is fair in love and war but in war there isn't a red zone to hide in. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company 1098	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:05:00 - [17] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Yes of course, its not because they sakd no full respecs ever or anything! The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1211	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:06:00 - [18] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Intelligent, i doubt it... Unkillable, i doubt that too... Because ive seen how you handle on the field without a tank ...and with scores like 6/1 and 2/2 and anything between that, i doubt you would have enough of that intelligence to make them truely unkillable... You do seem to excell at camping in high up places with a forge gun and sending mail...when you kill me, after i stood still for a whole 5 seconds...i mean i was timing how long it would take for you get that aim on me...5 seconds is truely impressive.. I guess you need that tank to be truely unkillable, since your skills don't make up for much... PS: But infantry being cheaper @ 23m sp vs 25m sp thats a pretty far fetch even for you, if you do get at those SP levels, a few million is just a 3% here and a 2% there.... PPS: Ive seen allot of BS being spouted on here, but boy, do you take the cake ... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:06:00 - [19] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: seriously? you do realize that CCP favors infantry right? and at the slightest provocation they will hit us with the nerf bat so hard we wont profit for builds. don't rub your victory in infantry's face, literally no good can come of it. What victory? I'll still have the SP into infantry. CCP is winning by putting the temptation to go full into infantry, so they can actually work on removing vehicles. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:08:00 - [20] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: Make tanks tougher. Better suspension or a slot for that. But once you use the sword you die by the sword. If you get WP from the tank (not uplink, ammo re-supply etc) that tank if your team is winning cannot: Stay in a red zone sniping. You want WP go into the war zone. Be recalled. No cowards way out, you put the chips in the poker pot no takeses backses Retreat into the red zone and rebuild. Either modules don't work or you get the 20 second rule. I've seen tanks on the winning side in pub matches camping objectives in the red zone nestled between ridge folds. All is fair in love and war but in war there isn't a red zone to hide in. Lol A slot for suspension. How about... you have to have a shield recharger to get any back on your suit, and a regulator to start it. If you'll accept that, I'll accept requiring a slot for suspension. But that's for all suits, at all levels. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.

Kane Fyea 2297	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:11:00 - [21] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: knight of 6 wrote: seriously? you do realize that CCP favors infantry right? and at the slightest provocation they will hit us with the nerf bat so hard we wont profit for builds. don't rub your victory in infantry's face, literally no good can come of it. What victory? I'll still have the SP into infantry. CCP is winning by putting the temptation to go full into infantry, so they can actually work on removing vehicles. You gotta love conspiracy theories.
4447 Resolution XIII 884	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:11:00 - [22] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Don't care if you get a respec. Troll, For lifeGÇª But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:31:00 - [23] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: I haven't seen any "no respecs for tanks" threads, just people also asking for respecs when the new suits are introduced. I'm not asking for a respecs since I like Gallente suits and vehicles and will spec as each one becomes available. Hell, they radically changed the swarm launcher and I'm not asking for a respec. So a full respec for that is okay, but asking for a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles is wrong. They're nerfing swarms for the first time, and deep down inside, you still want a respec. For just a handful of SP. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:33:00 - [24] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Dont act like a jerk if you want to be taken seriously. Then infantry should stop saying "no full respec" without providing any reason at all why they're saying that. Because that's what they do. "No full respec for tankers and that's that." Why? Because we'll be unkillable with 25mil into vehicles. If infantry is still shrieking now, imagine when 1.7 drops. bragging about unkillable tanks is probably not the way to get what you want. Ihope it happens tho. They'll have to redo AV and that's my bread and butter. Like I've said, infantry still complains that tanks are too hard. Conditions? Solo and ambush. The problem isn't with us. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 640	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:37:00 - [25] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Dont act like a jerk if you want to be taken seriously. Then infantry should stop saying "no full respec" without providing any reason at all why they're saying that. Because that's what they do. "No full respec for tankers and that's that." Why? Because we'll be unkillable with 25mil into vehicles. If infantry is still shrieking now, imagine when 1.7 drops. Theres no reason for a full respec, only vehicles are changing.
HYENAKILLER X TEAM SHINOBI 355	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:44:00 - [26] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Chances are if you rely on vehicles for kills you prolly suck as a player. Also ever notice how no one really ever used av missles? You guys arent good. Av missle suit were worthless after tanks died. Im sure though there are bragging rights somewhere about whiping out teams of all "no av infantry". You are welcome for my leadership
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1658	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:55:00 - [27] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: I haven't seen any "no respecs for tanks" threads, just people also asking for respecs when the new suits are introduced. I'm not asking for a respecs since I like Gallente suits and vehicles and will spec as each one becomes available. Hell, they radically changed the swarm launcher and I'm not asking for a respec. So a full respec for that is okay, but asking for a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles is wrong. They're nerfing swarms for the first time, and deep down inside, you still want a respec. For just a handful of SP. No, they are nerfing swarms AGAIN. Look I'm not gonna argue with you. You are they most dense person on the forum, and you will never be happy till takes rule the field. You care nothing about balance or other vehicles. You want current tanks(or better yet, crome tanks) and NO AV WHAT SO EVER. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:55:00 - [28] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Yes of course, its not because they sakd no full respecs ever or anything! We had a respec for Uprising, because they changed everything. Why is it unreasonable to want a respec because they're changing everything about vehicles? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 370	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:55:00 - [29] - Quote Tanks are pretty damn good man. They can already be pretty damn unkillable. The respect is because of the skill changes, not because ccp doesn't want you to use vehicles.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1391	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:58:00 - [30] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're scared to death at the prospect of intelligent, unkillable tanks. The half respec is CCP's way of saying "there you go, you have no SP into vehicles now, but everything else into infantry. Why not go infantry? It's cheaper." Infantry doesn't want us to become unkillable, because they can't even use their brains. CCP doesn't want us to go back into vehicles, because they don't want to see infantry constantly complaining that they can't use their brains to blow us up. Intelligent, i doubt it... Unkillable, i doubt that too... Because ive seen how you handle on the field without a tank ...and with scores like 6/1 and 2/2 and anything between that, i doubt you would have enough of that intelligence to make them truely unkillable... You do seem to excell at camping in high up places with a forge gun and sending mail...when you kill me, after i stood still for a whole 5 seconds...i mean i was timing how long it would take for you get that aim on me...5 seconds is truely impressive.. I guess you need that tank to be truely unkillable, since your skills don't make up for much... PS: But infantry being cheaper @ 23m sp vs 25m sp thats a pretty far fetch even for you, if you do get at those SP levels, a few million is just a 3% here and a 2% there.... PPS: Ive seen allot of BS being spouted on here, but boy, do you take the cake ... Well, with scrubs like you that need the PRO crutch to kill noobs, why should I bother using ISK suits? The only access I have to PRO weapons are forge guns. Would you like to do a dance of death while I'm raining down plasma on you? Or would you prefer to try to run away from my tank? I don't need the PRO crutch to be effective. You obviously do. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.



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