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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:54:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:The true measure of a man is not how he behaves in moments of comfort and convenience but how he stands at times of controversy and challenges. There is no greatness where there is no simplicity, goodness and truth. There's another nice one.
Life is not simple when dealing with Human Beings .
Don't agree with elimination of damage mods . Just an attempt of a quick fix for something that should be well thought out and addressed .
Even Satan sees goodness and truth in his actions .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
139
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Posted - 2013.11.30 05:04:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:And the reason I am upset is because you guys are trying to completely ruin this game with your moronic bull**** QQ.
This game has already been decimated enough by ridiculous, terribly thought out, QQ already. Enough is enough this is where I draw the damn line.
Hear ...Hear ( * stands and claps loudly * ) this needs to stop . Another case of constant crying from and by people who can't handle customization . I think their goal is to eliminate any choice in play style so everyone will walk around with the same suits and the same mods in their fits . This is PLAIN to see .
It's about to happen to tanks and let's see how much fun the vehicle users will have . Everyone will have different tanks but the same fits ( boring ) , the only differences will be in the turrets and you will see people with like turrets running the same fits as well .
Watch and see . Some people don't like originality .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
139
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Posted - 2013.11.30 05:36:00 -
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Theex 1661 wrote:Hello.
It would make it easier for beginners to get into the game,.. and STAY.
A basic AR with proficiancy level 5 and two complex damage mods does more damage than an proto AR (duvolle) with proficiancy level 5 but without damage mods!! And a advanced AR (gek 38) with prof 5, but with only one complex damage mod, beats that same duvolle too!!
The only poeple that benefit from this are proto assaults and logis. They have the high slots so they can stack two damage mods and still have high ehp. But whats about the other role specific players and people who dont want to use damage mods because they like to have the benefits from putting in more tactical modules in that slots?
Over all, for me, and a few people i talked to about this topic, it makes no fun at all if there are players like this on the field. I would like to have that challenge, but mostly im just pi**ed. But we play for a while now and can deal with it. The new player would most likely quit the game because he has absolutly no chance (according to what i see every day, newberries playing like 0/15 up to 4/30).
I can understand why CCP put damage mods in this game and that they are a part of it. So they probably would never be removed. But at least i hope that they are overworking them. In my opinion, making the stacking penalties higher and e.g. reducing the values to 2% / 4% / 7% (basic / adv / pro) would be an important step to improve the gameplay.
I'd like the game to be more (personal) skill based and competitive again...
Greetings
Theex
I'm so tired of people using the " new player experience " as an excuse for radical changes .
Look at what you said about the AR comparison and think about it next time . Damage mods are suppose to increase the damage output of that said weapon that it is applied to even more so if it's an advanced weapon , that's just one tier below . The Duvolle without the mod is at a disadvantage , of course and that argument isn't even valid .
I'm a " New " player and one should learn who they are up against and adapt to their adversary . If you see top tier players and you are not top tier then you have to play more of a support role . If your new your not loosing because of damage mods , your loosing because your being out skilled and out classed and most of the time your strategies are weak and flawed . you cant stand toe to toe with anyone ( at least you shouldn't ) strafing and movement is necessary . If your a weaker player then your aim should be to outrange your opponent , meaning : finding weapons that you can deal death blows from longer distances so your not exposed to CQC . There are many tactics that one can use to maximize their potential and limit their vulnerability .
That's the beauty of this game , their is NO ONE specific type of play style but if you keep taking away content that's exactly what will happen . You people are killing the game and the fun factor ... oh yeah , you people already say that it's not fun but that might just be for you , don't ruin it for the rest of us .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
139
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Posted - 2013.11.30 05:47:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:And the reason I am upset is because you guys are trying to completely ruin this game with your moronic bull**** QQ.
This game has already been decimated enough by ridiculous, terribly thought out, QQ already. Enough is enough this is where I draw the damn line. Hear ...Hear ( * stands and claps loudly * ) this needs to stop . Another case of constant crying from and by people who can't handle customization . I think their goal is to eliminate any choice in play style so everyone will walk around with the same suits and the same mods in their fits . This is PLAIN to see . It's about to happen to tanks and let's see how much fun the vehicle users will have . Everyone will have different tanks but the same fits ( boring ) , the only differences will be in the turrets and you will see people with like turrets running the same fits as well . Watch and see . Some people don't like originality . I'm for the complete opposite man! The reason why i say this, and the reason why this thing is bothering me is because it's turning into something so superior to other customizations, that it's turning into a norm, outmatching any other preferences which don't stand a chance. And i'm not talking about Gallente logis only. I'm talking about proto-stomping and outrageous damage differences even between weapons of the same type. I like Tactical AR, but within it's effective range (long range) it's still outmatched by a regular Duvolle with damage mods. There's no room for customization there, no room for creativity or preferences for different play styles.
I can't agree . I have a fit I use which is a Caldari Assault and it's not even an advanced but I use an advanced damage mod on it with a tactical AR and I can smash with that fit and I'm not even maxed out ( you talk like your maxed out ) like I'm sure you are . I can come out of a match with at least 10 kills and two deaths in a match ( until I change ) just with that fit alone but most of the time I change to fit the situation .
Everyone is complaining about proto stomping like these people can't be killed . You have the same opportunity as they do . I am FAR behind but I don't feel like I'm at a disadvantage because I understand my limits and what I can do . Hell I don't even have an OB or any tactical strike and I'm fine with that because I understand that all things come in time and if I work hard enough then what I don't have right now I will get . I just don't try to do more than I can and I believe that's a lot of people's problem who are not just capable with fighting with a prototype player in a CQC situation /
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
141
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Posted - 2013.11.30 06:05:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Theex 1661 wrote:Hello.
It would make it easier for beginners to get into the game,.. and STAY.
A basic AR with proficiancy level 5 and two complex damage mods does more damage than an proto AR (duvolle) with proficiancy level 5 but without damage mods!! And a advanced AR (gek 38) with prof 5, but with only one complex damage mod, beats that same duvolle too!!
The only poeple that benefit from this are proto assaults and logis. They have the high slots so they can stack two damage mods and still have high ehp. But whats about the other role specific players and people who dont want to use damage mods because they like to have the benefits from putting in more tactical modules in that slots?
Over all, for me, and a few people i talked to about this topic, it makes no fun at all if there are players like this on the field. I would like to have that challenge, but mostly im just pi**ed. But we play for a while now and can deal with it. The new player would most likely quit the game because he has absolutly no chance (according to what i see every day, newberries playing like 0/15 up to 4/30).
I can understand why CCP put damage mods in this game and that they are a part of it. So they probably would never be removed. But at least i hope that they are overworking them. In my opinion, making the stacking penalties higher and e.g. reducing the values to 2% / 4% / 7% (basic / adv / pro) would be an important step to improve the gameplay.
I'd like the game to be more (personal) skill based and competitive again...
Greetings
Theex I'm so tired of people using the " new player experience " as an excuse for radical changes . Look at what you said about the AR comparison and think about it next time . Damage mods are suppose to increase the damage output of that said weapon that it is applied to even more so if it's an advanced weapon , that's just one tier below . The Duvolle without the mod is at a disadvantage , of course and that argument isn't even valid . I'm a " New " player and one should learn who they are up against and adapt to their adversary . If you see top tier players and you are not top tier then you have to play more of a support role . If your new your not loosing because of damage mods , your loosing because your being out skilled and out classed and most of the time your strategies are weak and flawed . you cant stand toe to toe with anyone ( at least you shouldn't ) strafing and movement is necessary . If your a weaker player then your aim should be to outrange your opponent , meaning : finding weapons that you can deal death blows from longer distances so your not exposed to CQC . There are many tactics that one can use to maximize their potential and limit their vulnerability . That's the beauty of this game , their is NO ONE specific type of play style but if you keep taking away content that's exactly what will happen . You people are killing the game and the fun factor ... oh yeah , you people already say that it's not fun but that might just be for you , don't ruin it for the rest of us . So, what you're saying is that it's a very tactic decision when half a team are noobs in the mountains trying to snipe, not helping their team at all. Because that's the only chance they have to "compete". I have an alt with much less SP than my main. I'm telling you, i tried different weapons not to get closer to veterans. Tried the SCR, the Laser... there's no much of a point. I try to be supportive, logi lovin' and stuff.... Not possible when the other team is upon you killing everyone included you. A whole team can't be supportive when there's no one to support. But that's also a matchmaking problem that also needs to be addressed, but not here.
If that's what you got out of what I said then it is what it is . There are many long range weapons to choose from ( another beautiful thing about this game ) and everyone cant snipe . Maybe your attempts need to be worked upon and honed to become more stable and viable . I'm no guru nor do I know how YOU play but I do understand how I play so what works for some doesn't and won't work for all .
We are all different but that no excuse to place limits on someone because your not as good in a area than someone else is . Now that's unfair and bias and also admitting weakness . I gave examples not meaning for all because who am I to tell how EVERYONE WHO IS NEW should play , now don't insult me ... all I can and was doing was giving examples . You know this just might be a case where neither one of us is right completely and neither one of us is wrong in general . All I can say is to each is own and learn your strengths and build on them and try to eliminate your weaknesses or at least limit them .
Don't punish others for your flaws .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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