DUST Search - TANK combat.

Borne Velvalor wrote:

SILVERBACK 02 wrote:

Borne Velvalor wrote:

SILVERBACK 02 wrote:

the only thing that should be able to take out a tank is... ANOTHER TANK

do you agree?

personally i agree.. i think tanks should be a dominating presence on the battlefield as is such the case in real life.

air strikes from fast air seem to be the only counter.. iv seen CHALLENGER 2 battle tanks shrug off rpg-7s and anti tank mines.

This is not real life. What matters is balance. If only tanks could take out tanks, the team with the best fitted pilot would win, provided a whole enemy squad didn't call out cheaper tanks and swarm them all at once. It would escalate stomping even further than it is now. It's hard enough to blow a HAV with low level AV, but with no AV? What, you expect all the blueberries to invest millions of SP into tanks to take out enemy tanks? No, the dedicated tanker would have the best tank and stomp all the militia tanks being thrown at him until someone with a better fitted tank squashed him. It'd become Tank 514. Everyone would need to invest into tanks just to not get stomped.

BOOOM! there you go i was waiting for someone to say this^^

so what do you think infantry players do?? the best fit logi slayer seems to have the best kdr at the end of the match no matter how many miltia suit blueberrys are thrown at it...

BALANCE IS THERE.

I use standard gear 99% of the time. My K/D will probably hit 2.0 in a week or so at the rate it's rising. I kill plenty of prototypes. The point is, it's actually possible to kill enemies with higher level gear. You don't NEED to invest millions of SP to be competitive. Ever try to destroy a dedicated pilot's Madrugar in a Soma with less than a million SP in it? I have. Unless that sucker's hardeners and repper are down while yours is up, he's severely damaged or a moron, it's next to impossible. Infantry players compete in gear as well as tankers, it's true. However, tankers can kill infantry, so if infantry can't kill tankers, you end up with two planes of combat, with one above the other.

Tanks = Tanks > Infantry = Infantry

Which one would YOU want to be in? A Tank, 24/7. Otherwise, you need to rely on your blueberries to provide Tank superiority just to fight. That's provided the enemy team doesn't just field 5 tanks and completely screw you over.

EDIT: Also, Infantry isn't balanced. LMAO. Good one.

Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.


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Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1371	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:03:00 - [1] - Quote I've been saying for a while that the best counter to a tank should be another tank. Yet infantry never comes up with reasons why they think that's a bad idea. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1371	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:08:00 - [2] - Quote Borne Velvalor wrote: SILVERBACK 02 wrote: Borne Velvalor wrote: SILVERBACK 02 wrote: the only thing that should be able to take out a tank is... ANOTHER TANK do you agree? personally i agree.. i think tanks should be a dominating presence on the battlefield as is such the case in real life. air strikes from fast air seem to be the only counter.. iv seen CHALLENGER 2 battle tanks shrug off rpg-7s and anti tank mines. This is not real life. What matters is balance. If only tanks could take out tanks, the team with the best fitted pilot would win, provided a whole enemy squad didn't call out cheaper tanks and swarm them all at once. It would escalate stomping even further than it is now. It's hard enough to blow a HAV with low level AV, but with no AV? What, you expect all the blueberries to invest millions of SP into tanks to take out enemy tanks? No, the dedicated tanker would have the best tank and stomp all the militia tanks being thrown at him until someone with a better fitted tank squashed him. It'd become Tank 514. Everyone would need to invest into tanks just to not get stomped. BOOOM! there you go i was waiting for someone to say this^^ so what do you think infantry players do?? the best fit logi slayer seems to have the best kdr at the end of the match no matter how many miltia suit blueberrys are thrown at it... BALANCE IS THERE. I use standard gear 99% of the time. My K/D will probably hit 2.0 in a week or so at the rate it's rising. I kill plenty of prototypes. The point is, it's actually possible to kill enemies with higher level gear. You don't NEED to invest millions of SP to be competitive. Ever try to destroy a dedicated pilot's Madrugar in a Soma with less than a million SP in it? I have. Unless that sucker's hardeners and repper are down while yours is up, he's severely damaged or a moron, it's next to impossible. Infantry players compete in gear as well as tankers, it's true. However, tankers can kill infantry, so if infantry can't kill tankers, you end up with two planes of combat, with one above the other. Tanks = Tanks > Infantry = Infantry Which one would YOU want to be in? A Tank, 24/7. Otherwise, you need to rely on your blueberries to provide Tank superiority just to fight. That's provided the enemy team doesn't just field 5 tanks and completely screw you over. EDIT: Also, Infantry isn't balanced. LMAO. Good one. Except there's some of us that are able to deal with those tanks. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1386	Posted - 2013.11.30 22:11:00 - [3] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: SILVERBACK 02 wrote: the only thing that should be able to take out a tank is... ANOTHER TANK do you agree? personally i agree.. i think tanks should be a dominating presence on the battlefield as is such the case in real life. air strikes from fast air seem to be the only counter.. iv seen CHALLENGER 2 battle tanks shrug off rpg-7s and anti tank mines. My double complex damage modded Wiyrkomi Breach Forge Gun disagrees... violently =.= If something can take down a Bolas in 2 shots, it's overpowered. This coming from someone with proficiency 3 in forge guns. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1387	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:16:00 - [4] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: Took out two maddys this morning, yummy. Were they poorly fit and in a static position with no modules running? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.