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Django Quik Dust2Dust. 1801	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:53:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously - so many people out there using duvolles and imperials; why? Why do all you logis and assaults want quafe suits you can't even equip, let alone use? I'd understand getting just one for collectors but why more? I was really hoping that most people would be running only advanced weapons for this event in order to get proto stuff, which would be far more useful to non-gallente scouts. Please help me understand why you all want quafe suits. Is it because you think they're going to be rare in the future and therefore worth a lot on the market? Because that's just dumb - they won't be worth hardly anything because they're no different to normal gallente scout suits, so not even people with the appropriate skills will be using them anyway. Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2541	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:54:00 - [2] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Seriously - so many people out there using duvolles and imperials; why? Why do all you logis and assaults want quafe suits you can't even equip, let alone use? I'd understand getting just one for collectors but why more? I was really hoping that most people would be running only advanced weapons for this event in order to get proto stuff, which would be far more useful to non-gallente scouts. Please help me understand why you all want quafe suits. Is it because you think they're going to be rare in the future and therefore worth a lot on the market? Because that's just dumb - they won't be worth hardly anything because they're no different to normal gallente scout suits, so not even people with the appropriate skills will be using them anyway. greed. + And excuse to proto stomp harder The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Infamous Erich Inf4m0us 57	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:55:00 - [3] - Quote i want my purple kush suit Closed Beta Vet Shield Tank Vet Bring back my Sagaris
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 1801	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:56:00 - [4] - Quote Infamous Erich wrote: i want my purple kush suit Well, you get one by getting just ten kills with a proto weapon - after that, why bother? Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5600	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:56:00 - [5] - Quote I'm using proto weapons because I've capped out on the ADV weapons and I normally use proto weapons anyway, so anything more is just extra. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1427	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:57:00 - [6] - Quote Why would we want free PRO weapons when most of the playerbase can already afford 200 copies of their favorite PRO gear, while still having buckets of ISK left over? What people do want however, are the Quafe Suits. If you get 10 kills with a PRO weapon, you get a Quafe Suit. And those things are pretty rare. The Quafe suits are quite possibly the rarest suit in the game atm, kinda like how the 'Black Eagle' suits were before CCP decided to nuke their value by giving everybody 50 of them. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Admonishment The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 29	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:58:00 - [7] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Seriously - so many people out there using duvolles and imperials; why? Why do all you logis and assaults want quafe suits you can't even equip, let alone use? I'd understand getting just one for collectors but why more? I was really hoping that most people would be running only advanced weapons for this event in order to get proto stuff, which would be far more useful to non-gallente scouts. Please help me understand why you all want quafe suits. Is it because you think they're going to be rare in the future and therefore worth a lot on the market? Because that's just dumb - they won't be worth hardly anything because they're no different to normal gallente scout suits, so not even people with the appropriate skills will be using them anyway. Lmao I was actually laughing at how many non scouts I seen during the black eagle event. Probably about 10% had any sp invested into skills related for scouts. This event was no different except for the increased use of proto AR's for something that will never be used by them. Level 5 Proficiency in Tupperware handling.
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 634	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:01:00 - [8] - Quote The rarest suits are the unique colored aur suits that use to be on the market at the start of chrome. Or the officer suits that look no different from an Avd cal suit *CALDARI MASTER RACE*
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1018	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:05:00 - [9] - Quote Been running with advanced HMG. Loling at all the proto suits getting shredded. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC FUCKING EAGLE! CAN YOU SING?!
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2460	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:06:00 - [10] - Quote I use my Templar ScR almost exclusively. This event gives me an excuse to protostomp. Worth it? Nope. Fun? Definitely. Who wants to be fabulous with me in the war barge? HellsGÇáorm, Director Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114

Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 291	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:06:00 - [11] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Seriously - so many people out there using duvolles and imperials; why? Why do all you logis and assaults want quafe suits you can't even equip, let alone use? I'd understand getting just one for collectors but why more? I was really hoping that most people would be running only advanced weapons for this event in order to get proto stuff, which would be far more useful to non-gallente scouts. Please help me understand why you all want quafe suits. Is it because you think they're going to be rare in the future and therefore worth a lot on the market? Because that's just dumb - they won't be worth hardly anything because they're no different to normal gallente scout suits, so not even people with the appropriate skills will be using them anyway. I've been using Duvolles and Boundlesses simply because I couldn't be bothered to redo all my fittings with GEKs and MH-82s.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 1801	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:08:00 - [12] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: I use my Templar ScR almost exclusively. This event gives me an excuse to protostomp. Worth it? Nope. Fun? Definitely. Who wants to be fabulous with me in the war barge? Do you have gallente scout skilled up? If not, you can't even equip the quafe suit to be able to wear it in the warbarge. Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
m621 zma OMFGZOMBIESRUN 59	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:09:00 - [13] - Quote 'Event' lol
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 1801	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:09:00 - [14] - Quote Atiim wrote: Why would we want free PRO weapons when most of the playerbase can already afford 200 copies of their favorite PRO gear, while still having buckets of ISK left over? What people do want however, are the Quafe Suits. If you get 10 kills with a PRO weapon, you get a Quafe Suit. And those things are pretty rare. The Quafe suits are quite possibly the rarest suit in the game atm, kinda like how the 'Black Eagle' suits were before CCP decided to nuke their value by giving everybody 50 of them. Rare items that no one will ever use - what's the point in hording them? Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 513	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:10:00 - [15] - Quote I got my 1000 gek kills and now I'm getting the quafe suits because they are assets to sell later on just like my 100 Falcion tanks from Mordu's challenge.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 1801	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:10:00 - [16] - Quote m621 zma wrote: 'Event' lol I know! I thought this event would encourage advanced weapon use because no one would want quafe suits - seems I was wrong. Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 1801	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:12:00 - [17] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: I got my 1000 gek kills and now I'm getting the quafe suits because they are assets to sell later on just like my 100 Falcion tanks from Mordu's challenge. No one is ever going to buy your quafe suits because no one will ever use them. They are the same as gallente scout proto suits and would only ever be wanted by collectors and hundreds of people already have 25 of them from closed beta and now it seems thousands more will have them from this event too, so they're hardly going to be 'rare'. Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 513	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:13:00 - [18] - Quote Django Quik wrote: m621 zma wrote: 'Event' lol I know! I thought this event would encourage advanced weapon use because no one would want quafe suits - seems I was wrong. If they are the same as the regular gk.0 scout that means 100 is an easy 5.7 mil.
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 90	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:14:00 - [19] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Django Quik wrote: m621 zma wrote: 'Event' lol I know! I thought this event would encourage advanced weapon use because no one would want quafe suits - seems I was wrong. If they are the same as the regular gk.0 scout that means 100 is an easy 5.7 mil. Grinding those 1000kills would be slower than grinding 5.7mil in cheapfits. Fear my Minmatarian brothers.
m621 zma OMFGZOMBIESRUN 59	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:14:00 - [20] - Quote Django Quik wrote: m621 zma wrote: 'Event' lol I know! I thought this event would encourage advanced weapon use because no one would want quafe suits - seems I was wrong. TBH - I don't think many people care about quafe suits either. Plus, with 1.7 somewhere close by theres a possibility that today's proto weapons = tomorrow's piece of garbage

stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 513	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:16:00 - [21] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Django Quik wrote: m621 zma wrote: 'Event' lol I know! I thought this event would encourage advanced weapon use because no one would want quafe suits - seems I was wrong. If they are the same as the regular gk.0 scout that means 100 is an easy 5.7 mil. Grinding those 1000kills would be slower than grinding 5.7mil in cheapfits. Lol no grinding just playing getting 1000 kills takes less than 50 games, I average 25+ kills a match so its no challenge.
Prince Adidas Horizons' Edge 12	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:17:00 - [22] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Seriously - so many people out there using duvolles and imperials; why? Why do all you logis and assaults want quafe suits you can't even equip, let alone use? I'd understand getting just one for collectors but why more? I was really hoping that most people would be running only advanced weapons for this event in order to get proto stuff, which would be far more useful to non-gallente scouts. Please help me understand why you all want quafe suits. Is it because you think they're going to be rare in the future and therefore worth a lot on the market? Because that's just dumb - they won't be worth hardly anything because they're no different to normal gallente scout suits, so not even people with the appropriate skills will be using them anyway. I'm running my advanced suits with my advanced weapons. People are just gonna go broke using protos trying to get the Quafe suit. Rookie With Little DUST Knowledge. Advanced Heavy, HMG, Soon To Be A Prototype. Over 7 Mill Total SP In 4 Months.
Gorra Snell The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 281	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:18:00 - [23] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Is it because you think they're going to be rare in the future and therefore worth a lot on the market? Because that's just dumb - they won't be worth hardly anything because they're no different to normal gallente scout suits, so not even people with the appropriate skills will be using them anyway. That's a fair guess, but it's still just a guess. Consider going for the Quafes to be playing the market. I'm mixing it up, though...running the occasional PRO fit mixed in with my usual STD/ADV stuff. RDVs are a failed experiment - can't we just remove them from the game?
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 90	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:18:00 - [24] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Delta90212 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Django Quik wrote: m621 zma wrote: 'Event' lol I know! I thought this event would encourage advanced weapon use because no one would want quafe suits - seems I was wrong. If they are the same as the regular gk.0 scout that means 100 is an easy 5.7 mil. Grinding those 1000kills would be slower than grinding 5.7mil in cheapfits. Lol no grinding just playing getting 1000 kills takes less than 50 games, I average 25+ kills a match so its no challenge. 10 matches with cheapfits is already around 2.5-3m Fear my Minmatarian brothers.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 1803	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:24:00 - [25] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Delta90212 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: If they are the same as the regular gk.0 scout that means 100 is an easy 5.7 mil. Grinding those 1000kills would be slower than grinding 5.7mil in cheapfits. Lol no grinding just playing getting 1000 kills takes less than 50 games, I average 25+ kills a match so its no challenge. 10 matches with cheapfits is already around 2.5-3m And consider that a proto weapon costs almost as much as a gk0, so you need to make a KDR of around 10 to get your money's worth (if you sell at gk0 price!). If you plan to sell them at 30k isk like you said you considered, that means you need a KDR of more like 20! Dust2Dust - Funeral arrangements for all of New Eden. Join our public channel D2D. to chat and squad with us.
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 1032	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:25:00 - [26] - Quote I played for half a dozen matches or so with a Duvolle to net a dozen Quafes to use in the future for fun and have since returned to ADV weapons for the PRO rewards. Anyone after ISK value in rewards is better off chasing variant weapons than Quafe suits. A Quafe suit will be worth about the same as a gk.0, which is 60k ISK. 60k ISK for 10 kills is 6k ISK a kill. A Duvolle Tactical or Carthum Assault is worth about 80k and you get twice as many. That's around 16k a kill. I don't need the ISK and I don't run PRO weapons, so both rewards are mostly useless to me. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Prince Adidas Horizons' Edge 12	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:36:00 - [27] - Quote Borne Velvalor wrote: I played for half a dozen matches or so with a Duvolle to net a dozen Quafes to use in the future for fun and have since returned to ADV weapons for the PRO rewards. Anyone after ISK value in rewards is better off chasing variant weapons than Quafe suits. A Quafe suit will be worth about the same as a gk.0, which is 60k ISK. 60k ISK for 10 kills is 6k ISK a kill. A Duvolle Tactical or Carthum Assault is worth about 80k and you get twice as many. That's around 16k a kill. I don't need the ISK and I don't run PRO weapons, so both rewards are mostly useless to me. True, but I'd rather get some prototype weapons than useless suits. Rookie With Little DUST Knowledge. Advanced Heavy, HMG, Soon To Be A Prototype. Over 7 Mill Total SP In 4 Months.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 513	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:38:00 - [28] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Delta90212 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: Delta90212 wrote: stlcarlos989 wrote: If they are the same as the regular gk.0 scout that means 100 is an easy 5.7 mil. Grinding those 1000kills would be slower than grinding 5.7mil in cheapfits. Lol no grinding just playing getting 1000 kills takes less than 50 games, I average 25+ kills a match so its no challenge. 10 matches with cheapfits is already around 2.5-3m And consider that a proto weapon costs almost as much as a gk0, so you need to make a KDR of around 10 to get your money's worth (if you sell at gk0 price!). If you plan to sell them at 30k isk like you said you considered, that means you need a KDR of more like 20! Which is very easy with a squad with multiple logis, I think I've lost 10 suits in the past 3 hours and I easily have 300 kills in that time span.
DR FEB The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 97	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:45:00 - [29] - Quote BUT THAT PINK THO' *Y.O.L.U.T* You Only Live Unlimited Times DR FEB goes back in the corner
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 880	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:51:00 - [30] - Quote I got only 10 Quafes. I have no need for more, just something for when/if open market ever comes. I've been working on getting more Imperials now. I use them for mercing myself out and eventually PC matches for my corp.

XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 587	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:57:00 - [31] - Quote im out for all 100 quafe suits and im almost at 2k kills since the event started and I am fully spec'd gallente scout and for the advanced tier I believe you only needed 500 kills to cap those SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
Acturus Galaxy Happy Pumpkin 222	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:08:00 - [32] - Quote Dammit, I thought the Quafe scout suits was different from the gk.0. Did it not use to have 3 high/3 low and 2 equipment slots? 3 highs would be great for damage modules, the regular gk.0 only have 1 high module. I have been working my ass off running exclusive proto which I otherwise very rarely do to get the suits and now you tell me they are only for the looks I will be back to standard and advanced stuff when the event is over, I hate loosing isk on almost every match I participate in.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5385	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:12:00 - [33] - Quote I don't see any point anymore to get those 'Quafe' suits. Since CCP has been handing them out like candy recently, the resell value of the suits will drop when the secondary market hits because everyone has the suits and a lot of them are just going to hold onto the suits as vanity items for the warbarge. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.


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