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Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 43	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:18:00 - [1] - Quote Looking at the stats, the Viziam has way harsher fitting and is much more expensive yet does the same damage, same clip size and reload time, put out more feedback damage and same accuracy rating and only has less heat build up per second? Is that really worth all that downside?
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2477	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:21:00 - [2] - Quote You're missing damage mods, it now requires damage mods. This kind of bullshit is why they need to be removed. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1273	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:24:00 - [3] - Quote You look like a rich b*tch when you use a viziam, besides that not that big of a difference between the proto or standard grade. For the Empire Dual tanking is a sin
plaplapla Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 14	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:26:00 - [4] - Quote it has more range en heats up slower that it
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2456	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:26:00 - [5] - Quote On paper, there is a slightly reduced heat build up on the Viziam which in theory will allow you to do longer periods of peak damage as you approach the weapons maximum heat capacity. In practice, I use a standard laser for everything because there is practically no difference. HellsGÇáorm, Director Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 43	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:35:00 - [6] - Quote Damn, anyone want to buy 50 Viziam laser Rifles I wasted my ISK on? LOL
Green Living 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 997	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:50:00 - [7] - Quote The few dedicated Laser RIfle users left in this game have been complaining about this for some time now. I imagine after 1.7, the Laser Rifle will officially become a dinosaur on the battlefield.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2456	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:51:00 - [8] - Quote Talryn Vilneram wrote: Damn, anyone want to buy 50 Viziam laser Rifles I wasted my ISK on? LOL I'll take those off your hands for 100 ISK a piece. Because you got an honest face. HellsGÇáorm, Director Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4085	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:57:00 - [9] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Talryn Vilneram wrote: Damn, anyone want to buy 50 Viziam laser Rifles I wasted my ISK on? LOL I'll take those off your hands for 100 ISK a piece. Because you got an honest face. Silly human. 200 ISK a piece. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2458	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:02:00 - [10] - Quote Green Living wrote: The few dedicated Laser RIfle users left in this game have been complaining about this for some time now. I imagine after 1.7, the Laser Rifle will officially become a dinosaur on the battlefield. Somewhere in this cesspit CCP said they will be looking at laser rifles because they agree they're currently gimped. Of course, that could mean pretty much anything. Also, their was a thread about 'zealot' variants that would allow for sustained fire post-overheat at the cost of increased feedback damage that received some attention in the weekly feedback section. I'll suspend judgment until we actually get to play with the rail rifle but it does look like lasers are slated to disappear for a little bit. HellsGÇáorm, Director Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114

Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2458	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:03:00 - [11] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Talryn Vilneram wrote: Damn, anyone want to buy 50 Viziam laser Rifles I wasted my ISK on? LOL I'll take those off your hands for 100 ISK a piece. Because you got an honest face. Silly human. 200 ISK a piece. HURR! 300 ISK and not a single ISK less! HellsGÇáorm, Director Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2370	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:05:00 - [12] - Quote Talryn Vilneram wrote: Looking at the stats, the Viziam has way harsher fitting and is much more expensive yet does the same damage, same clip size and reload time, put out more feedback damage and same accuracy rating and only has less heat build up per second? Is that really worth all that downside? The Viziam is metallic black. No.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4085	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:07:00 - [13] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Talryn Vilneram wrote: Damn, anyone want to buy 50 Viziam laser Rifles I wasted my ISK on? LOL I'll take those off your hands for 100 ISK a piece. Because you got an honest face. Silly human. 200 ISK a piece. HURR! 300 ISK and not a single ISK less! Hah, humans are even more silly that I thought. 800 ISK a piece. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Ridire Greine 120	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:08:00 - [14] - Quote Viziam looks cooler. If you're going to die, might as well die in style. Property of Knight SoiaireGäó R 0 N 1 N [VGTG]
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5556	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:13:00 - [15] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Talryn Vilneram wrote: Damn, anyone want to buy 50 Viziam laser Rifles I wasted my ISK on? LOL I'll take those off your hands for 100 ISK a piece. Because you got an honest face. Silly human. 200 ISK a piece. HURR! 300 ISK and not a single ISK less! Hah, humans are even more silly that I thought. 800 ISK a piece. 800.01. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 908	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:19:00 - [16] - Quote Talryn Vilneram wrote: Looking at the stats, the Viziam has way harsher fitting and is much more expensive yet does the same damage, same clip size and reload time, put out more feedback damage and same accuracy rating and only has less heat build up per second? Is that really worth all that downside? no but a buff on elm and viziam is incoming stay true brother hone your lr skills..my recommendation is use standard only and always run at least 1 dmg mod on it till the buff
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4087	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:25:00 - [17] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: 800.01. HAH I will offer... OVER 9000 ISK a pop. That's right. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 242	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:27:00 - [18] - Quote in theory it works like this: the laser genereates more dmg the longer you fire this weapon, with the lower overheat on the viziam you can use this extra time to have an even greater dmg peak on the viziam than on the other versions. so shooting constant with the one is the thing you wanna go to. actually I dont think the lr is as gimped as everybody says, its a good weapon if you know your distances and can aim proper, however I cant really say how big the difference between elm and viziam is atm for I dont use proto so often in pub matches and well, pc maps are small as a rats anus so AR/ASCR/MD are the only valid weapons in this gamemode, unless you got the luck fto fight aon a brodgemap where you can see alot of blacksuits running as soon as they feel the lr shooting on them lol another one bites the Dust...
DRASTYCK MEAXUREZ CoRp KiLLeRz 24	Posted - 2013.11.28 22:15:00 - [19] - Quote ITS A WASTE... PERIOD same exact crap .. with a different name just like ccp does .. makes new names to the same crap ex: toxin assault & exile assault... from merc pack 1 & 2 ... lol.. what a joke .. bought both and the stats are identical ... what a scheme and guess what ? its the same stats as the militia assault .. lol .. ccp ... lol .. wha a joke the numbers are ******** .. but to top that ... the recruit assault does more damage than all 3 mentioned above... lol ccp - clowns


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