DUST Search - change to swarm launchers good and bad

Foundation Seldon wrote:

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:

I am pretty sure as far dropships go the forge will be as broken in 1.7 as it is now. Even with the DS speed increase that 300m range and the fact they can pop out of any uplink, and corner or from any supply depot, makes protecting oneself, by correct and intelligent use of active modules almost impossible.

There is no warning, no locating it and extreme difficulty in killing it. All we can do is collect the evidence of the imbalance and submit this to CCP. Politely. Accurately and with maturity. At the same time, I will also report to CCP if swarms seem to weak. Dropship pilots want balance and fun. Not carte blanche freedom to freely roam.

I am speced deeply into both swarms and forge guns. So i will be trying both sides.

I'm less worried about forges than I am about rail tanks.

Rail are more powerful with longer range and accuracy. On top of that, they are impossible to kill due to their high health and tendency to camp the redline. On top of that, our one advantage against them (their low vertical aiming), can easily be mitigated by a small hill tilting the tank upwards.

Rails need a nerf, a counter, or anything viable to threaten them. Currently, the best option is to suicide a squad of AV grenade packed troops, but that's a farfetched tactic anyway.

Don't forget about the 1.7 buff to Large Rails on top of all that you mentioned. Now they do Compressed Railgun damage at Normal Railgun rate of fire and heat gain ... and THEN they added 30% active vehicle damage mods to the game. Redline railing will be far more potent than it is now as a result and Dropships, with their increased reliance on active resist mods in order to tank any sort of significant damage, will be the easiest targets to tag.

Stick to Ambush, guys.


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EternalRMG KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 639	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:14:00 - [1] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: I am pretty sure as far dropships go the forge will be as broken in 1.7 as it is now. Even with the DS speed increase that 300m range and the fact they can pop out of any uplink, and corner or from any supply depot, makes protecting oneself, by correct and intelligent use of active modules almost impossible. There is no warning, no locating it and extreme difficulty in killing it. All we can do is collect the evidence of the imbalance and submit this to CCP. Politely. Accurately and with maturity. At the same time, I will also report to CCP if swarms seem to weak. Dropship pilots want balance and fun. Not carte blanche freedom to freely roam. I am speced deeply into both swarms and forge guns. So i will be trying both sides. I'm less worried about forges than I am about rail tanks. Rail are more powerful with longer range and accuracy. On top of that, they are impossible to kill due to their high health and tendency to camp the redline. On top of that, our one advantage against them (their low vertical aiming), can easily be mitigated by a small hill tilting the tank upwards. Rails need a nerf, a counter, or anything viable to threaten them. Currently, the best option is to suicide a squad of AV grenade packed troops, but that's a farfetched tactic anyway. Don't forget about the 1.7 buff to Large Rails on top of all that you mentioned. Now they do Compressed Railgun damage at Normal Railgun rate of fire and heat gain ... and THEN they added 30% active vehicle damage mods to the game. Redline railing will be far more potent than it is now as a result and Dropships, with their increased reliance on active resist mods in order to tank any sort of significant damage, will be the easiest targets to tag. Stick to Ambush, guys. Because of that DropShips will be the ones who must take care of those tanks, they can fly over them, away from the line of fire, and hit them hard Because redline tanks aren meant to be engaged, they wont have much HP, what will make them easier to kill with a derpship "Fight Togheter; Win Together" Duster Since: July 2012 Best DropShip Pilot; Soon To be best Jet Fighter Pilot