but logi


I play an assault scout. I do okay enough.

mr musturd straight up plays an assault scout and he scores higher than most. The Ugly does as well.

we are out there.

There's nothing wrong with being creative with a role. The main problem is incompleteness of the game, bugs, lack of balance, etc.

Essentially scouts should be 2 fold, and hold these as legitimate strengths

Flanking unit
- From shotgun/knife skirmishers, to pistol stalkers, to rolling snipers

Beyond dressing themselves as light assault units by forgoing the scouts cultural strengths, this is what scouts currently do and how they play for the most part. The only downside to this role is even the amazing scout slayer games still run about 10 to 20 kills short of the amazing logi/medium slayer runs (scouts 30/1, 20/1 compared to logis/mediums 40/1, 50/1 games).

So in competitive play, a scout would always be inferior to a medium on this aspect, which is fine because I honestly think scouts should operate in another facet of play which is what this post is about.

The Flanking aspect should be the scout v medium frame aspect, which it shouldn't out perform the assaults on straight up killing anyways, but scouts should operate on another front, in fact it should be an entirely separate electronic/assassin based war between opposing scouts.

AoE Debuffer vs. Hunter Assassin

Something akin to a large AoE debuffer, AKA EWAR unit which hinders groups of enemy hostiles like say slowly drains 10% of ammo every min its channeled (I just made up the numbers don't eat me), which then requires someone to go and kill that AoE debuffer. Considering how scouts are good at hiding and tracking down people, youGÇÖd have a scout v scout hunt of taking down the debuffer to free up your frontliners to perform at their peak, or you could be the unit which works as a hostile team divider (anti logi), while others skilled in hunting need to track you down. Thus the electronic / Assassin front of the battle.

As how to go about it, that is up to CCP, I just want this to happen, I honestly believe scouts should get active modules like vehicles do but have debuff like functions instead, which are thus scout only, the sentinel separates itself on its exclusive heavy weapon slot because the suit was specifically designed to use such, so why canGÇÖt the scout specifically get a module that was designed around the scout suit? But that is up for debate

This is what I envision for the scout at any rate, what are your thoughts on this?

Essentially scouts should be 2 fold, and hold these as legitimate strengths

Flanking unit
- From shotgun/knife skirmishers, to pistol stalkers, to rolling snipers

Beyond dressing themselves as light assault units by forgoing the scouts cultural strengths, this is what scouts currently do and how they play for the most part. The only downside to this role is even the amazing scout slayer games still run about 10 to 20 kills short of the amazing logi/medium slayer runs (scouts 30/1, 20/1 compared to logis/mediums 40/1, 50/1 games).

So in competitive play, a scout would always be inferior to a medium on this aspect, which is fine because I honestly think scouts should operate in another facet of play which is what this post is about.

The Flanking aspect should be the scout v medium frame aspect, which it shouldn't out perform the assaults on straight up killing anyways, but scouts should operate on another front, in fact it should be an entirely separate electronic/assassin based war between opposing scouts.

AoE Debuffer vs. Hunter Assassin

Something akin to a large AoE debuffer, AKA EWAR unit which hinders groups of enemy hostiles like say slowly drains 10% of ammo every min its channeled (I just made up the numbers don't eat me), which then requires someone to go and kill that AoE debuffer. Considering how scouts are good at hiding and tracking down people, youGÇÖd have a scout v scout hunt of taking down the debuffer to free up your frontliners to perform at their peak, or you could be the unit which works as a hostile team divider (anti logi), while others skilled in hunting need to track you down. Thus the electronic / Assassin front of the battle.

As how to go about it, that is up to CCP, I just want this to happen, I honestly believe scouts should get active modules like vehicles do but have debuff like functions instead, which are thus scout only, the sentinel separates itself on its exclusive heavy weapon slot because the suit was specifically designed to use such, so why canGÇÖt the scout specifically get a module that was designed around the scout suit? But that is up for debate

This is what I envision for the scout at any rate, what are your thoughts on this?

Essentially scouts should be 2 fold, and hold these as legitimate strengths

Flanking unit
- From shotgun/knife skirmishers, to pistol stalkers, to rolling snipers

Beyond dressing themselves as light assault units by forgoing the scouts cultural strengths, this is what scouts currently do and how they play for the most part. The only downside to this role is even the amazing scout slayer games still run about 10 to 20 kills short of the amazing logi/medium slayer runs (scouts 30/1, 20/1 compared to logis/mediums 40/1, 50/1 games).

So in competitive play, a scout would always be inferior to a medium on this aspect, which is fine because I honestly think scouts should operate in another facet of play which is what this post is about.

The Flanking aspect should be the scout v medium frame aspect, which it shouldn't out perform the assaults on straight up killing anyways, but scouts should operate on another front, in fact it should be an entirely separate electronic/assassin based war between opposing scouts.

AoE Debuffer vs. Hunter Assassin

Something akin to a large AoE debuffer, AKA EWAR unit which hinders groups of enemy hostiles like say slowly drains 10% of ammo every min its channeled (I just made up the numbers don't eat me), which then requires someone to go and kill that AoE debuffer. Considering how scouts are good at hiding and tracking down people, youGÇÖd have a scout v scout hunt of taking down the debuffer to free up your frontliners to perform at their peak, or you could be the unit which works as a hostile team divider (anti logi), while others skilled in hunting need to track you down. Thus the electronic / Assassin front of the battle.

As how to go about it, that is up to CCP, I just want this to happen, I honestly believe scouts should get active modules like vehicles do but have debuff like functions instead, which are thus scout only, the sentinel separates itself on its exclusive heavy weapon slot because the suit was specifically designed to use such, so why canGÇÖt the scout specifically get a module that was designed around the scout suit? But that is up for debate

This is what I envision for the scout at any rate, what are your thoughts on this?

but logi


I play an assault scout. I do okay enough.

mr musturd straight up plays an assault scout and he scores higher than most. The Ugly does as well.

we are out there.

There's nothing wrong with being creative with a role. The main problem is incompleteness of the game, bugs, lack of balance, etc.

I envision my scout knifing someone in their back instead. Not every scout plays the same way. Some like to go around slaying some don't. It should be more left up to the player and not what is forced upon the suit.

On paper all this reads fine but lets face it: what ever Ewar CCP will come up with other suits (medium) will be able to make better use of. The scout simply has not the slot layout to be a Ewar factor nor has he the CPU/PG.

They are only slightly faster than assaults with considerable less HP and they can't really take advantage of their (limited) slots due to a lack of CPU/PG.

Scouts can't outrun bullets and they can't be stealthy and use other modules. They have no role and any role that depends highly on stealth and modules/equipment scouts cannot fullfill in their current design.

i wouldnt exactly say i play an assault scout mollerz, i flank when possible and try and stay hidden but for some reason i always find myself rushing a guy head on with my pistol i prefer to stay stealthy when i can but sometimes i just go on autopilot and forget my suit has less than 350hp

I never said no slaying at all, we currently do that, what I am saying is that we need another utility role in addition