The reason the idea to gimp the Logi's weapon capability is so popular is because the Logi is better at assaulting than the Assault. If you have some other idea on how to fix the problem, please do share it.

there are logis out there who use the suit how it was meant to be used but there are also a lot of people who use them to get massive amounts of hp and kill everything in sight. that's what the problem is and its not going to be easy to find a solution that doesn't somehow impact the true logis.

I feel it necessary to make this post due to all of the discussion about logis.

I know some people think that the logi's weapon slot should be removed or changed to sidearm. I beg of you to not follow those requests. I'm not going to go into detailed stats or into a long rant (both of which i am more than capable of) i simply wish to post it from my perspective.

Let me start off by saying i pride myself on being a true logi and have been since i first gained a basic understanding of dust back in the early closed beta. I am not a logi because i have no gun game i am a logi because i enjoy helping others play the game to the fullest, i have a PSN alt on which i have a assault and i rack up 15-20 gun kills per match with no problem. On my logi i focus primarily on healing and supporting, but i do carry a light weapon of the same tier as the suit i'm wearing.

For example i was in a PC just today and went 3 kills, 3 assists, 5 deaths. 4784 WP, 4300 Damage Dealt, 8654 Damage Received, 14195 Healing Given, 0 Healing Received.

However, i strongly feel that the light weapon slot should remain a part of the logi suit. There are numerous times where i have just barely escaped with my suit and only because i had a light weapon. With the introduction of the rail-rifle and it's 100m range if i were stuck with a Submachine-Gun with it's 25 meter (rougely) range i feel that that is highly unfair and would punish the true logi's more than the slayers, the slayers can just switch to a assault and carry on, the true logi's get stuck with gimped defence capabilities.

I feel that instead of hurting the logi's you should help the assault, i think that you should change the assaults shield recharge skill to something more assault oriented. For example a damage increase to racial weapons (now that they all have one), a increase to sprint speed, an increase to scans, i'm open to anything. I'm just saying don't break the logi because the assault isn't up to par yet.

Do what you will with this, take it how you want, troll me as much as you want, but i felt it was my duty to speak for the logis.

I agree with this. The Logi will always have the disadvantage enough of having one weapon alone, instead of focusing on the hurting the Logi (WHICH WILL BE THE CASE, nothing good will come of it) dont break what actually works but focus on building the assault a little further. I can say from the standpoint that people are trying to nerf the logi calling it a "slayer" that they dont understand fully the game mechanics or cannot properly fight in the game and are just trolling until their demands are met.

WHY NERF A SUIT THAT SOMEONE SPEC. COMPLETELY INTO BECAUSE A JACK OF ALL TRADES COULD NOT BEAT A MASTER OF 1.

I die on average 1-4 times a game withs kills up to 12-16 plus if i am not a Squad Leader, with 19 mil plus SP and fully spec. into the AR. I am one of many many many. When I fight with my Logi I will always have to fight off of the enemy flank, and have never fought any heavy or assault upfront that wasn't already weakened. Its just not possible with one gun unless your enemy does not know how to strafe and just stands there.

CCP I URGE YOU TO NOT DESTROY THE LOGI.

Build upon the other suits but you got it right Logi-side. Heavy weapons need to be fixed. ASSAULT should get a buff armor and shield just because it is a LINEAR killing role, very similar to what a HEAVY does.

The skill does need to be changed though. I went 42-0 with my Logi yesterday, and had I not had the 5 hp/s rep bonus, I would've died 2-3 times. As of now, it's just too versatile.


But I do think that people who say that Logis can spam equipment need to just stop whining. They could do that too if they TRIED

Let me start off by saying i pride myself on being a true logi and have been since i first gained a basic understanding of dust back in the early closed beta. I am not a logi because i have no gun game i am a logi because i enjoy helping others play the game to the fullest, i have a PSN alt on which i have a assault and i rack up 15-20 gun kills per match with no problem. On my logi i focus primarily on healing and supporting, but i do carry a light weapon of the same tier as the suit i'm wearing.

There are numerous times where i have just barely escaped with my suit and only because i had a light weapon. With the introduction of the rail-rifle and it's 100m range if i were stuck with a Submachine-Gun with it's 25 meter (rougely) range i feel that that is highly unfair and would punish the true logi's more than the slayers, the slayers can just switch to a assault and carry on, the true logi's get stuck with gimped defence capabilities.

I feel that instead of hurting the logi's you should help the assault, i think that you should change the assaults shield recharge skill to something more assault oriented. For example a damage increase to racial weapons (now that they all have one), a increase to sprint speed, an increase to scans, i'm open to anything. I'm just saying don't break the logi because the assault isn't up to par yet.

...... i felt it was my duty to speak for the logis.

The reason the idea to gimp the Logi's weapon capability is so popular is because the Logi is better at assaulting than the Assault. If you have some other idea on how to fix the problem, please do share it.

Interesting post. CCP adjusted the Rep tool so when logis Rep vehicles they do not receive points. If a logi reps to many mercs in a certain time period they do not receive points during the cool down period even though the Rep tool still works. Limit the amount of kills the logic suit can get by having a cool down period when a certain number is reached. The logic can still kill red dots and the kills could effect their KDR but they will not receive. Points for those kills during the cool down period.

Interesting post. CCP adjusted the Rep tool so when logis Rep vehicles they do not receive points. If a logi reps to many mercs in a certain time period they do not receive points during the cool down period even though the Rep tool still works. Limit the amount of kills the logic suit can get by having a cool down period when a certain number is reached. The logic can still kill red dots and the kills could effect their KDR but they will not receive. Points for those kills during the cool down period.

well I agree with nerf they do not need to gimp the logi's just because ppl can not assault better then them it part of the game for a while there no reason to gimp it or anything like that I seen all the builds that they have come out with yes I may not have played them a lot or used the forums that much but I have been here for them but to take out a way or really cut back way of doing then the assault ppl should just use logi stuff other then complain about a part of the game that can change something that what the game was about back & forth battle that has different play type for ever one to play as not just what ppl complain about chaces the other ppl off that play that style of game

Interesting post. CCP adjusted the Rep tool so when logis Rep vehicles they do not receive points. If a logi reps to many mercs in a certain time period they do not receive points during the cool down period even though the Rep tool still works. Limit the amount of kills the logic suit can get by having a cool down period when a certain number is reached. The logic can still kill red dots and the kills could effect their KDR but they will not receive. Points for those kills during the cool down period.

Yes, because playing too well should only be nerfed whilst wearing a logi suit!
Absolutely genius!

Get a hose, and spray yourself. You disgusting little welp.

Drop a module from the logi, sure i'll take that one, JUST SO YOU GUYS STFU.
Take my 5hp/s repair? Fine. But make it a requirement that assaults fit repair tools to their equipment, and if a logo dies within 25m of them they get -1000 wp deducted.

You obviously want to make sure the logi has a logi to support said logi, so lets have assaults require 2 people to link together to power your godmode AR?

Or how about, in order for a scout to even move, he has to carry a heavy on his back.

Go **** yourselves nerf brigade. You're the ones ruining the game for me.

The reason the idea to gimp the Logi's weapon capability is so popular is because the Logi is better at assaulting than the Assault. If you have some other idea on how to fix the problem, please do share it.

Yes, because playing too well should only be nerfed whilst wearing a logi suit!
Absolutely genius!

Get a hose, and spray yourself. You disgusting little welp.

Drop a module from the logi, sure i'll take that one, JUST SO YOU GUYS STFU.
Take my 5hp/s repair? Fine. But make it a requirement that assaults fit repair tools to their equipment, and if a logo dies within 25m of them they get -1000 wp deducted.

You obviously want to make sure the logi has a logi to support said logi, so lets have assaults require 2 people to link together to power your godmode AR?

Or how about, in order for a scout to even move, he has to carry a heavy on his back.

Go **** yourselves nerf brigade. You're the ones ruining the game for me.

New blanket bonus. Something like 50-75% off of equipment fitting costs.

Mirror slots between assaults and logis.

There

I get the feeling that you don't realize that literally EVERYBODY has to fit a armor rep

Any other class that gets passive armor rep gets a token bonus (1hp/s, so powerful!), yet logis get handed a free complex armor rep? Along with even more space to fit even more plates?

Really, that doesn't at all seem wrong?

The reason the idea to gimp the Logi's weapon capability is so popular is because the Logi is better at assaulting than the Assault. If you have some other idea on how to fix the problem, please do share it.