DUST Search - so when new fw loyalty points system comes

Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:

Leithe Askarii wrote:

Kaughst wrote:

Depends...It becomes a smaller scale PC match. Organized groups of 16 will have to expect other groups like themselves, if you go by PC standards people spend alot of money dieing just to take a objective in a PC game...It becomes a big frequent ISK sink when you can line up alot of games like that in FW. People might switch to cheaper gear just to compensate, they already use proto more usually then officer weapons in PC and using ADV gear in FW might follow with that logic. Still...You have organized groups roaming around leading them to crush those unorganized teams quickly...I bet FCs will make calls on whether to use proto gear or not in the warbarge.

We don't have FC's in this game....and no squad leaders has been half as hard or effective as any EVE FC I have served under.

Leithe...run with us in a few matches. You'll find there are ground commanders as good as any fleet commander. We have a few that do both.

Message me if you are game.

"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"

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Mdog 24158 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2013.11.27 23:31:00 - [1] - Quote Wont we all just run on basic suits? So proto stomping in regular marches but basic suit in fw hmmm Flying derpships and scout shotgunning 24/7 quite fun i must say
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1401	Posted - 2013.11.27 23:41:00 - [2] - Quote Everyone is gonna be forced to play PUB matches now that they're removing the ISK payouts from FW matches. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Kaughst 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 53	Posted - 2013.11.27 23:42:00 - [3] - Quote Depends...It becomes a smaller scale PC match. Organized groups of 16 will have to expect other groups like themselves, if you go by PC standards people spend alot of money dieing just to take a objective in a PC game...It becomes a big frequent ISK sink when you can line up alot of games like that in FW. People might switch to cheaper gear just to compensate, they already use proto more usually then officer weapons in PC and using ADV gear in FW might follow with that logic. Still...You have organized groups roaming around leading them to crush those unorganized teams quickly...I bet FCs will make calls on whether to use proto gear or not in the warbarge. Step 1: Take Districts Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit Cow for Kaughst
Leithe Askarii Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 43	Posted - 2013.11.27 23:48:00 - [4] - Quote Mdog 24158 wrote: Wont we all just run on basic suits? So proto stomping in regular marches but basic suit in fw hmmm It would make sense to run cheaper fits in FW to maximise gains both ISK wise when purchasing Factionalised content, and in regards to selling it. There's no sense in losing a proto suit to get a mildly more expensive specialist suit. Just like there is no sense loosing a BC to cap a medium plex when you could do it in cheaper fits.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 72	Posted - 2013.11.28 00:11:00 - [5] - Quote I assume that the market is just around the corner..........
Oswald Rehnquist 723	Posted - 2013.11.28 00:15:00 - [6] - Quote since fw will be an isk sink, that means that people will run cheaper fits in pub matches to make up for it Losing a fw match really does hit your rewards so people are going to fight to win. Below 28 dB
negative49er Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 344	Posted - 2013.11.28 00:24:00 - [7] - Quote I'm expecting a lot of BPOs in the new FW I use everything
Leithe Askarii Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 44	Posted - 2013.11.28 00:29:00 - [8] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: since fw will be an isk sink, that means that people will run cheaper fits in pub matches to make up for it Losing a fw match really does hit your rewards so people are going to fight to win. I doubt that very much, people will fight to make the maximum profit....only way to do that is use the cheapest most effective fits you can, since you still have to pay to get factionalised rewards. No point in going ISK negative and then having to buy 10 specialist drop suits to replace those proto you just lost in game.
Leithe Askarii Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 44	Posted - 2013.11.28 00:30:00 - [9] - Quote Kaughst wrote: Depends...It becomes a smaller scale PC match. Organized groups of 16 will have to expect other groups like themselves, if you go by PC standards people spend alot of money dieing just to take a objective in a PC game...It becomes a big frequent ISK sink when you can line up alot of games like that in FW. People might switch to cheaper gear just to compensate, they already use proto more usually then officer weapons in PC and using ADV gear in FW might follow with that logic. Still...You have organized groups roaming around leading them to crush those unorganized teams quickly...I bet FCs will make calls on whether to use proto gear or not in the warbarge. We don't have FC's in this game....and no squad leaders has been half as hard or effective as any EVE FC I have served under.
Green Living 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 997	Posted - 2013.11.28 00:57:00 - [10] - Quote I will still run Proto in FW. I have a half a billion ISK. I won't run out of ISK, ever.

Miokai Zahou Film Actors Guilds 58	Posted - 2013.11.28 01:11:00 - [11] - Quote Heh I've been running 100% bpo suits for a long time now so this new development won't effect me one bit. Aside from that I still have a templar code set for sale, only 300 million isk! Hurry and get you investment for the future here!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5357	Posted - 2013.11.28 01:17:00 - [12] - Quote At first, yes. But then as you build up your standings and start earning more and more loyalty points, you'll be able to purchase faction-specific weapons with these points and sell them on the market to other players for ISK at a price that YOU set. Of course, CCP did say that this will come in parts so I would expect this to be built up over time. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5357	Posted - 2013.11.28 01:19:00 - [13] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: since fw will be an isk sink, that means that people will run cheaper fits in pub matches to make up for it Losing a fw match really does hit your rewards so people are going to fight to win. Exactly. Factional Warfare will finally introduce a real incentive to win this time which should help get rid of stupid blueberries who don't want to contribute to the match in any way. Also, don't forget that Friendly Fire will be ON at that point so it will be a whole lot easier to retaliate against a stupid blueberry should that occasion ever arise. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Leithe Askarii Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 45	Posted - 2013.11.28 01:23:00 - [14] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: since fw will be an isk sink, that means that people will run cheaper fits in pub matches to make up for it Losing a fw match really does hit your rewards so people are going to fight to win. Exactly. Factional Warfare will finally introduce a real incentive to win this time which should help get rid of stupid blueberries who don't want to contribute to the match in any way. Also, don't forget that Friendly Fire will be ON at that point so it will be a whole lot easier to retaliate against a stupid blueberry should that occasion ever arise. I will have a toon called the Amarrian Commisar with the express purpose of ridding effing scrubby blue dots from Amarr FW.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 160	Posted - 2013.11.28 01:26:00 - [15] - Quote Miokai Zahou wrote: Heh I've been running 100% bpo suits for a long time now so this new development won't effect me one bit. Aside from that I still have a templar code set for sale, only 300 million isk! Hurry and get you investment for the future here! Can I pay in installments? If so, I'll take it off your hands. I need it for one of my Alts. Contact WaTcHoUt1219 ZARTA for Logos. More are available. 500K ISK.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 540	Posted - 2013.11.28 02:08:00 - [16] - Quote Leithe Askarii wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Exactly. Factional Warfare will finally introduce a real incentive to win this time which should help get rid of stupid blueberries who don't want to contribute to the match in any way. Also, don't forget that Friendly Fire will be ON at that point so it will be a whole lot easier to retaliate against a stupid blueberry should that occasion ever arise. I will have a toon called the Amarrian Commisar with the express purpose of ridding effing scrubby blue dots from Amarr FW. DON'T DO THAT! I'mma be cryin' over my free BPO fits, bruh. (T _ T) "NO FULL RESPECS; ONLY FOR VEHICLE SKILLS CHANGED TREE!" Vehicle users : "lol gonna put it into infantry skills"
Leithe Askarii Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 45	Posted - 2013.11.28 02:09:00 - [17] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: Leithe Askarii wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Exactly. Factional Warfare will finally introduce a real incentive to win this time which should help get rid of stupid blueberries who don't want to contribute to the match in any way. Also, don't forget that Friendly Fire will be ON at that point so it will be a whole lot easier to retaliate against a stupid blueberry should that occasion ever arise. I will have a toon called the Amarrian Commisar with the express purpose of ridding effing scrubby blue dots from Amarr FW. DON'T DO THAT! I'mma be cryin' over my free BPO fits, bruh. (T _ T) You cannot be worse than the mindless masses than made me walk away in digust for a month. You could torture me for months to denounce my Faith and I would hold out....but one round with those idiots in Amarr FW and I am ready to do it willingly.
Joel II X AHPA 226	Posted - 2013.11.28 05:14:00 - [18] - Quote I'll still be running my regular suits since they're not expensive at all. If anything, I'll just use my trusty starter fit.
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 621	Posted - 2013.11.28 05:23:00 - [19] - Quote ill run whatever i feel like running. *CALDARI MASTER RACE*
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1266	Posted - 2013.11.28 05:33:00 - [20] - Quote Leithe Askarii wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: since fw will be an isk sink, that means that people will run cheaper fits in pub matches to make up for it Losing a fw match really does hit your rewards so people are going to fight to win. Exactly. Factional Warfare will finally introduce a real incentive to win this time which should help get rid of stupid blueberries who don't want to contribute to the match in any way. Also, don't forget that Friendly Fire will be ON at that point so it will be a whole lot easier to retaliate against a stupid blueberry should that occasion ever arise. I will have a toon called the Amarrian Commisar with the express purpose of ridding effing scrubby blue dots from Amarr FW. You shall be praised by all of Amarr For the Empire Dual tanking is a sin

Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 346	Posted - 2013.11.28 06:05:00 - [21] - Quote Leithe Askarii wrote: Kaughst wrote: Depends...It becomes a smaller scale PC match. Organized groups of 16 will have to expect other groups like themselves, if you go by PC standards people spend alot of money dieing just to take a objective in a PC game...It becomes a big frequent ISK sink when you can line up alot of games like that in FW. People might switch to cheaper gear just to compensate, they already use proto more usually then officer weapons in PC and using ADV gear in FW might follow with that logic. Still...You have organized groups roaming around leading them to crush those unorganized teams quickly...I bet FCs will make calls on whether to use proto gear or not in the warbarge. We don't have FC's in this game....and no squad leaders has been half as hard or effective as any EVE FC I have served under. Leithe...run with us in a few matches. You'll find there are ground commanders as good as any fleet commander. We have a few that do both. Message me if you are game.
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 35	Posted - 2013.11.28 06:55:00 - [22] - Quote Ill be wearing the same stuff i always wear. Basic level suit bpo with advanced and proto teir modules and an advanced pistol. I actually look forward to not seeing as many proto's in faction. Dedicated scout. Because the suit is underpowered. Imagine the good ones when we get buffed people ;)
True Adamance Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4382	Posted - 2013.11.28 07:33:00 - [23] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Leithe Askarii wrote: Kaughst wrote: Depends...It becomes a smaller scale PC match. Organized groups of 16 will have to expect other groups like themselves, if you go by PC standards people spend alot of money dieing just to take a objective in a PC game...It becomes a big frequent ISK sink when you can line up alot of games like that in FW. People might switch to cheaper gear just to compensate, they already use proto more usually then officer weapons in PC and using ADV gear in FW might follow with that logic. Still...You have organized groups roaming around leading them to crush those unorganized teams quickly...I bet FCs will make calls on whether to use proto gear or not in the warbarge. We don't have FC's in this game....and no squad leaders has been half as hard or effective as any EVE FC I have served under. Leithe...run with us in a few matches. You'll find there are ground commanders as good as any fleet commander. We have a few that do both. Message me if you are game. Leithe doesn't fight for the Gallente. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Kaughst 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 60	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:10:00 - [24] - Quote Leithe Askarii wrote: Kaughst wrote: Depends...It becomes a smaller scale PC match. Organized groups of 16 will have to expect other groups like themselves, if you go by PC standards people spend alot of money dieing just to take a objective in a PC game...It becomes a big frequent ISK sink when you can line up alot of games like that in FW. People might switch to cheaper gear just to compensate, they already use proto more usually then officer weapons in PC and using ADV gear in FW might follow with that logic. Still...You have organized groups roaming around leading them to crush those unorganized teams quickly...I bet FCs will make calls on whether to use proto gear or not in the warbarge. We don't have FC's in this game....and no squad leaders has been half as hard or effective as any EVE FC I have served under. I am talking about dust field commanders in PC. The reason why AE, 0H and other leading district owners have so much land is because they have such effective people leading the fights. Step 1: Take Districts Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit Cow for Kaughst
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 2087	Posted - 2013.11.30 02:17:00 - [25] - Quote I predict massive AFK, passive play, and cheap fits. Especially up until the player market is released. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 641	Posted - 2013.11.30 03:00:00 - [26] - Quote Players should be awarded loyalty points based on war points, and kills. Not some passive growth that allows people to afk. *CALDARI MASTER RACE*
Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 151	Posted - 2013.11.30 04:44:00 - [27] - Quote I'll be wearing what I wear now. Adv. Minmatar Assault, Bsc. Minmatar Logi and Bsc. Minmatar Scout. I'll just run mlt on ambush and domination to save up some ISK for FW, though I don't really get raped in FW like that. Most deaths I get is like 10-15 I suppose but I'm gotten better.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 937	Posted - 2013.11.30 04:49:00 - [28] - Quote loyalty points have an isk value, so I would assume not.
General John Ripper Pradox One Proficiency V. 5631	Posted - 2013.11.30 05:35:00 - [29] - Quote Mdog 24158 wrote: Wont we all just run on basic suits? So proto stomping in regular marches but basic suit in fw hmmm I know about a few dozen people who will fight for amarr with full proto. Having over a billion is awesome. Yes, It was me.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1452	Posted - 2013.11.30 05:36:00 - [30] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Mdog 24158 wrote: Wont we all just run on basic suits? So proto stomping in regular marches but basic suit in fw hmmm I know about a few dozen people who will fight for amarr with full proto. Having over a billion is awesome. I can has ISK? Please? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND

ugg reset Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 410	Posted - 2013.11.30 06:24:00 - [31] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: since fw will be an isk sink, that means that people will run cheaper fits in pub matches to make up for it Losing a fw match really does hit your rewards so people are going to fight to win. or just back out if they can't quando omni flunkus, moritati
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 882	Posted - 2013.11.30 06:37:00 - [32] - Quote FW has 1/10th the proto than Pubs. Do you really think those protostompers like Nyain San, AE, 0.H, etc play anything besides pub match ambush? They go where the noobs are, they know better than to enter into FW. Because their they actually find competition, and they never want that. People in FW have proto, but we don't use it, because we aren't scumbags trying to measure an internet ego by beasting on some Starter Fits fresh out of the Academy.


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