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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:02:00 -
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Killface Hunt wrote:I run a Minmatar Logistics, most of the time the advanced suit, v occasionally the prototype.
I am a "True Logi" using my suit as intended.
No i won't pick you up. I don't carry an injector. My scanner is far more useful for keeping both of us alive.
No i won't follow you around and repair you. Unless i'm rolling with your tank, i don't carry a repair tool.
No i won't drop an uplink, you can spawn at the CRU or objective i just hacked and covered with remote explosives.
No i don't have 1000+ HP because i am usually fit with codebreakers/biotics/armour rep.
Yes i carry a light weapon. Mostly basic or sometimes advanced. Prototype is too pg/cpu intensive with the equipment i run and gets way too expensive when you get shot in the back while hacking 2 or 3 times a match.
A sidearm is not acceptable for engaging at any decent range and i wont ever use one as a primary weapon in this role.
While you are all busy trying to keep your K/D all shiny, i'm in behind enemy lines hacking their objectives.
My nanohives are so i can replenish my remotes, not so you can spam Core Locus grenades. I try to put them in useful places, but i'm not going to drop one for some blueberry just for the heck of it. I can only carry two and i need them both.
My play style is exactly what the Minmatar Logistic suit is designed for. You can't do the same with a scout (too squishy) or assault (only one equipment slot) or heavy (too slow).
I am a "True Logi", not your support lap dog, not your medic.
Deal with it.
Actually, from what you've written there I'd say you are a scout who needs more equipment slots than scout suits provide.
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Posted - 2013.11.27 14:56:00 -
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Jooki Chewaka wrote:
But still, all this is just my oppinion you see?
CCP motto is: "You play as you wanna play", and you indeed do, so do I, our difference is that your statement is: "I'm a true logi", with that statement you kinda imply that anyone else who doesn't play like you is wrong, like puking "all known truths of the universe", and thats so arrogant and prepotent...
Without implying that I agree with KHunt about playstyles, etc. I don't think he was suggesting that his approach was how "true logi" is defined. I believe that he was arguing against his approach being defined (by others) as not "true" logi.
Personally I don't like the term "true logi" at all: "support logi" is much more descriptive and less judgemental in my mind. "Support logi" clearly distinguishes it from "assault logi", and also from "scout logi" which might be a reasonable name for his playstyle. Nothing in these terms implies one is better than another. It does, however, let us have a sensible discussion if CCP want to somehow reduce the effectiveness of "assault logi" (to encourage more "assault assault" players) about protecting the effectiveness of other logi types.
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:22:00 -
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Jooki Chewaka wrote:I understand what youre saying, but the thing is first, his attitude is toxic, i kinda understand him, he might be pissed of by people demanding repairs, that pisses me off to, mates hitting me at melee or wasting ammo on me to call my attention while im hacking, its just like wtf u think im doing dood?, but whats the whole point on coming to the forums to write that, and like that?
And second, the thing here, the whole thing is that there isn't support logi, or scout logi, or assault logi, there is just logi, and logi is ment to be support, and supports repair, they can also do this or that, but logis repair, minmatar is kinda an exception given the awesome hack bonus, but still, logis repair, and thats it.
CCP gave them a yellow paint for some reason, when someone is damaged he starts looking for a yellow painted dude, and when you approach him and that dude just ignores you is kinda wtf is that dude wearing that suit for-+? Is something people assume.
(Apologies to KHunt if we are derailing his thread here)
Personally I agree with your view, which is why I'm a support logi. However, I also have a deep respect for the sandbox, which tells me that I must consider that other people want to use things in other ways, and that those views are also valid. That includes what I'm now calling "scout logi". Is there an argument that this role should be performed by a scout suit with more equipment slots (logi scout) instead? Sure there is. But does it really matter whether the game has scout logis or logi scouts? I'd say "not really".
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:36:00 -
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Jooki Chewaka wrote:However i have the feeling that you also play eve, so, have you ever seen a 0-6 basi? No right? same might apply here xD
No, but I've seen plenty of RR strategic cruisers :-)
More seriously, Eve has enough ship types to be able to afford very specialist roles. Dust doesn't (yet).
Maybe in future there should be a logistics suit variant with specific bonuses to repair tools.
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:56:00 -
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Jooki Chewaka wrote:R F Gyro wrote:More seriously, Eve has enough ship types to be able to afford very specialist roles. Dust doesn't (yet).
Just the opposite, on eve there arent cloaky logis, thats why ppl use strategic cruisers, they can repair quite good and also warp cloaked.
Sorry, I chose an inappropriate example for my argument.
T3s are the opposite of "specialist", by design, and were only introduced when there was already a broad base of very specialised T2 hulls - at least 40 of them, covering a huge range of play styles.
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