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Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 51	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:18:00 - [1] - Quote Message from Godin: People who knows rigs know that they would be awesome. If you don't, this. Peace, Godin
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1007	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:33:00 - [2] - Quote Rigs would be awesome if implemented correctly. They shouldnt be able to turn a light suit into a heavy suit for example [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Level 1 Forum Warrior The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 52	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:58:00 - [3] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Rigs would be awesome if implemented correctly. They shouldnt be able to turn a light suit into a heavy suit for example Message from Godin: Hell no. Really, I don't that would be possible anyways if the bonuses aren't too high, and even then, they would need to be pretty high.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 450	Posted - 2013.11.27 05:57:00 - [4] - Quote While I really like the idea of permanent modules with positive and negative fitting bonuses, there would need to be other game mechanics and systems in place. Firstly, I would request an expansion/alteration of dropsuit fitting limit from 30 and an indexable folder system for organizing various fitting groups. Second, "Rigs" would have more of a place in Dust if there were planetary exploration/mining zones were you could fight PvE battles or low numbers of enemy combatants which could be skillfully avoided if so chosen. Why I say this is that while EVE online is a PvP game, there are ways to avoid combat but still have a genuine New Eden experience. That's not really how it works in Dust, with all game interaction coming from repetitious battles; that translates to far greater turnover on dropsuits which means you might not be able to get the most out of you experience of a particular perma-module. Sure, I understand you can treat it like an officer weapon, but if CCP is going to go to the trouble of redesigning the fitting slot layout I feel players should have options to be able to savor their special suit longer rather than getting ganked upon spawn. That way, when you lose a suit it holds an even greater weight because you built up a extended connection. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 450	Posted - 2013.11.27 05:58:00 - [5] - Quote Also, I was contemplating whether rigs should be obtained strictly through FW and PC salvage or on the primary/secondary markets. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 648	Posted - 2013.11.27 06:40:00 - [6] - Quote I like the idea of a module that is equal parts positive and negative, but the way it was implemented in EVE didn't really work that way. Sure, I like my rigs, but equivalent exchange it is not. Their benefits far outweigh their costs. Humanity is the personification of change.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 618	Posted - 2013.11.27 07:32:00 - [7] - Quote +1 They should be expensive (at least 10x the cost of modules of the same meta level) and have drawbacks. Benefits should outweigh drawbacks which can be reduced somewhat via skills. Some examples would be armor rigs reducing speed, shield rigs increasing signature profile (making you easier to scan), damage rigs might reduce the CPU/PG of the suit, optimal range increase at expense of damage etc. Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 66	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:47:00 - [8] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Also, I was contemplating whether rigs should be obtained strictly through FW and PC salvage or on the primary/secondary markets. Obviously people should be able to build them. EDIT: This is a message from Godin
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 66	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:50:00 - [9] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: +1 They should be expensive (at least 10x the cost of modules of the same meta level) and have drawbacks. Benefits should outweigh drawbacks which can be reduced somewhat via skills. Some examples would be armor rigs reducing speed, shield rigs increasing signature profile (making you easier to scan), damage rigs might reduce the CPU/PG of the suit, optimal range increase at expense of damage etc. Message from Godin: Nobody would buy them if they cost that much, or just the elite would, making the PROTO stomping even worse. No.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 620	Posted - 2013.11.27 14:57:00 - [10] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Vell0cet wrote: +1 They should be expensive (at least 10x the cost of modules of the same meta level) and have drawbacks. Benefits should outweigh drawbacks which can be reduced somewhat via skills. Some examples would be armor rigs reducing speed, shield rigs increasing signature profile (making you easier to scan), damage rigs might reduce the CPU/PG of the suit, optimal range increase at expense of damage etc. Message from Godin: Nobody would buy them if they cost that much, or just the elite would, making the PROTO stomping even worse. No. Well STD rigs would still be fairly affordable, and they would go up from there. If proto gets crazy expensive, you'd probably see much less of it, not more. Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 66	Posted - 2013.11.27 15:20:00 - [11] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Vell0cet wrote: +1 They should be expensive (at least 10x the cost of modules of the same meta level) and have drawbacks. Benefits should outweigh drawbacks which can be reduced somewhat via skills. Some examples would be armor rigs reducing speed, shield rigs increasing signature profile (making you easier to scan), damage rigs might reduce the CPU/PG of the suit, optimal range increase at expense of damage etc. Message from Godin: Nobody would buy them if they cost that much, or just the elite would, making the PROTO stomping even worse. No. Well STD rigs would still be fairly affordable, and they would go up from there. If proto gets crazy expensive, you'd probably see much less of it, not more. Seeing as how all of this stuff is going, these won't be in for awhile. and rigs won't cost that much to build. Plus, as we have seen time and time again, balancing by ISK doesn't work. At all.
Fox Gaden Bojo's School of the Trades 1617	Posted - 2013.11.27 16:12:00 - [12] - Quote Rigs would be a good thing to add in an expansion down the road. But letGÇÖs wait until we have all the suits first, then start adding further levels of complexity. Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide


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