One, this doesn't affect everyone that currently does it by the use of the funds from the broken PC system.

Two, there are already enough differences between most gear levels. Plasma Cannon and Laser Rifle are two of the few exceptions.

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you write up a decent argument(although badly flawed) , then blow it on your first reply in the thread , nice one tard .......

People are already broke, any increase in prices would kill dust. Haven't you played in codex?? Or are you an open beta person that thinks they know this game?

I don't just own this name, I live it


80% of the players here are broke because 20% are able to roll them with maxed out fits and make them unable to afford their fits needed to stand up to people in the few matches where matchmaking DOES work properly.

This would gradually run down the ISK stores of people with lots of ISK to waste pub stomping while gradually increasing the wallets of those who financially conservative with their fits when running against pub-stomping teams.

It would take time, but in the long run it would balance out the ISK imbalance for those who play smart.

Not really it would make the gap bigger, mega corps will still run full proto all the time. Averge joe runs one, dies, goes broke!

hey tard sorry but i didnt understand what you wrote ,,, it was in tardish , troll tardish actually ,,, tell me whats it like to be a troll , im really interested .... are you so ugly in real life , you live to torment others , is it simply down to having an a little gun ?

Since the gear you kill in a match adds to the pool your team earns in a match, one match after your team clearing out 20-30 proto suits would fund you enough to run 2 or 3 matches in basic-adv gear against evenly matched teams. So you loose money quicker, but you gain it faster as well. And if pub stompers find that they are only clearing around 350,000 ISK for going 31/2 against noob players but loosing around 1,400,000 a match doing so, many will be eventually deterred from running them every match, thus leading to more people using lower level gear, and thus leading to at least slightly more balanced matches (at least gear-wise).

Makes sense to me.

Since the gear you kill in a match adds to the pool your team earns in a match, one match after your team clearing out 20-30 proto suits would fund you enough to run 2 or 3 matches in basic-adv gear against evenly matched teams. So you loose money quicker, but you gain it faster as well. And if pub stompers find that they are only clearing around 350,000 ISK for going 31/2 against noob players but loosing around 1,400,000 a match doing so, many will be eventually deterred from running them every match, thus leading to more people using lower level gear, and thus leading to at least slightly more balanced matches (at least gear-wise).

Makes sense to me.

Your Assuming people at the top will be bothered by 1.4 mill, when he's got 999 Billion he isn't gonna give a monkey's uncle about his ISK.

Before you could consider this, we need to
1) Rebalance Corporation Incomes
2) Add player Market
3) Make suits require production / production time

no. just no.

can't you just go proto stomp yourself ,,,, heres an idea ,,, those cheap suits you keep harking on about , put 1 on , go play ,,,, repeat sevral times ,,,, now , assuming you have sp allocated correctly , buy a proto suit , add a weapon ( all these things can be purchased in market and applied in your fittings screen ) and jazz it up a little with some mods .
Next step , pull on your big boy pants and throw yourself in ( that would be with scotty's approval)
and there you will stand and forever be known as "TARD THE PROTOTATOE"

Hey there. You've got a lot of detail in your post. :)

For the skills on suits part , I have a feeling many of the bonuses on current suits aren't tweaked or properly implemented anyway and will probably changed in the future. We haven't even seen many of the racial suits so once these are released I think they will go back and do a once over of all passive suit bonuses.

The pricing is an idea but at the moment, if you run a proper proto-fit, it can cost you upwards of 150K or more. My average take on a match is 250-350K isk - that means I have to die just 3 times to make it unprofitable, twice to break even, and once to make a profit. Most people who run proto suits will switch to a lower tiered suit if they rack up enough deaths, I am surprised sometimes though that you see guys who are running 200K suits rack up 9 or 10 deaths and still spawn in a proto suit, meaning they're losing on verage 800K per match... ouch.

Having said that, I feel the focus will be more on matchmaking to improve the "proto-stomp" effect that can really take the fun out of the game. Even non-squad matches or "every man for himself" matches would also change things around.

Here's an idea. Learn to put an apostrophy in "here's" when combining the words "here" and "is". And learn how to "..." by using the period key instead of the comma key. I know they are right beside each other on the keyboard and all and they look quite similar, but they have very different uses.

And FYI, I've been here for a year and a half now. The last thing I need is fitting advice from no-name scrubs. Thanks though.

TO HELL WITH THAT ,,, "eeengleesh not my fist language tard " year and a half , mad man ,,, how comes your a stompee as opposed to a stomper then , most decent or average players have snuggled into a nice fat corp with a nice proto suite to keep them warm through the winter ,,,, a year and a half ,,, dude what you been doing all this time if your not up to stomper level .....

You think that just because I'm against proto stomping I'm new or have no gear to defend myself? No, I do just fine thank you. I am concerned with Dust's longevity and the size of it's player base. The proto v militia **** is scaring away 90% of people who would give the game a chance since most people aren't willing to put up with months of abuse to learn how to get good at a game when they are getting eaten alive every time they play.

And as for my own proto stomping, I only run top tier gear when the other team does. It's cheap and tasteless to run proto gear against noobs who are just beginning their journey in Dust. I'm not going to pad my stats like that at the expense of Dust's future player base.

now then , you can write like a decent human being , not just some facless internet thing called troll , who abused his first poster , if you would have started off like this , you wouldnt have got my attention , in fairness i was about to reply to your thread when i noticed A , your name , troll. and B the crap you dealt the first poster . so i assumed at the very begining that you where just another troll on this forum . anyhow too late now , can't be bothered to get involved , im bored ......

No, not assuming that. Well HE may be. I AM assuming that not all pub stompers have access to unlimited funds, and this would cut down on the total number of people who are able to pub stomp full time. I am ALSO assuming that newer players will eventually gather that when faced with pub stompers they can run cheap gear/starter fits and make a mint off of them whether or not they win the match. This would allow new players/poor players to farm rich players for their ISK.

However, there are plenty of things that would make this go more smoothly, and plenty of other things that would need to happen first. Not the least of which are some of those you listed. I'm just spit-balling some ideas since my insomnia is acting up and it's kinda lonely on Dust around the down time hours.

Thank you for discussing the topic seriously though, it's so tiring trading insults all day...