DUST Search - Complex shield extender advice.

Dimmu Borgir II wrote:

Th3rdSun wrote:

Dimmu Borgir II wrote:

Okay so I finally spec'd into complex shield extenders after having held off for so long and spending my sp on other useless stuff....

Why did I wait so long... They're lovely!!! Big smile

Okay, so my question is... who uses them on advanced suits and do you use a cpu module to squeeze out more shields or do you squeeze as much armor and shields combined that you can into the suit?

Today I ran with two complex shield extenders and my third slot empty (due to lack of CPU) which is the equivalent of four enhanced extenders but for less CPU and obviously my advanced suit doesn't have four slots...

Down armor, up shields! It seems to make a lot of difference to my survivability, same combined HP (approximately 750) but now I'm lasting longer and I'm a bit quicker around the battle field!

I'm a Minmatar Logi by the way in case anyone wants to share their killer fittings with this suit as I'm now feeling much more flexibility and options with these complex modules available Smile

Cheers!

I run Caldari assault,and I can honestly say,shield tanking is totally worthless since uprising started.My advanced suit has 407 shield and it drops super fast when getting shot by almost any weapon.

Until they properly rebalance shields in this game,shield extenders are close to irrelevant.Armor tanking has been more than proven the way to go now.

So expanding on this, as far as you're concerned due to the current AR and scrambler situation, It'd be far more beneficial to run only one complex shield extender and maybe a couple of damage modifiers or something similar?

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Dimmu Borgir II Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 176	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:04:00 - [1] - Quote Okay so I finally spec'd into complex shield extenders after having held off for so long and spending my sp on other useless stuff.... Why did I wait so long... They're lovely!!! Okay, so my question is... who uses them on advanced suits and do you use a cpu module to squeeze out more shields or do you squeeze as much armor and shields combined that you can into the suit? Today I ran with two complex shield extenders and my third slot empty (due to lack of CPU) which is the equivalent of four enhanced extenders but for less CPU and obviously my advanced suit doesn't have four slots... Down armor, up shields! It seems to make a lot of difference to my survivability, same combined HP (approximately 750) but now I'm lasting longer and I'm a bit quicker around the battle field! I'm a Minmatar Logi by the way in case anyone wants to share their killer fittings with this suit as I'm now feeling much more flexibility and options with these complex modules available Cheers!
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1457	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:29:00 - [2] - Quote I was going to start talking about my fittings but I remembered I already made videos about them! links in my signature. (I'm also a minmatar logi btw) The thing is, with minmatar logi it's really hard to get a decent shield fitting, but I usually just run both extenders and plates because my survivability is pretty decent that way. Links: List of Important Topics I make logistics videos!
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3027	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:32:00 - [3] - Quote You guys are so lucky to have those CPU mods that have no drawback other than using a slot. I'd love to have powergrid in my highslot.
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 46	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:43:00 - [4] - Quote Lol at sgt kirk... yer and id like damage mods in my lows. Shield extenders are garbage now that armor has buffed, 66hp is like one extra ar bullet, big whoop. Personaly I've dropped them from all my suits, and replace them with armor and damage mods. Its really sad coz I want to shield tank but its just not practical atm, maybe after 1.7....
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 897	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:56:00 - [5] - Quote Whats your suit's CPU/PG? I recommend getting decent armor build first and then working on your shield -2 complex shield extenders / 2 enhanced plates 1 complex armor repper -3 complex shield extenders / 2 basic plates 1 complex armor repper -2 complex damage mods 1 complex shield extender / 1 enhanced plate 1 basic plate 1 complex repper Just some suggestions Cant really say much since I cant see what your fitting is but I would suggest buying a couple of every dropsuit mod in marketplace and spend some quality time in your fitting window. Just keep playing around with different fittings until "you know she's the one". I have no idea what equipment you want.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 402	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:04:00 - [6] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: You guys are so lucky to have those CPU mods that have no drawback other than using a slot. I'd love to have powergrid in my highslot. Yah but our fits work really well with damage mods. It's a trade off: shields get CPU and regulators and we get damage mods. {:)}{3GÇó>
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1571	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:08:00 - [7] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: You guys are so lucky to have those CPU mods that have no drawback other than using a slot. I'd love to have powergrid in my highslot. Tell me about it bro. At least we got more overall ehp...wait. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1947	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:11:00 - [8] - Quote Complex extenders are the only ones worth using. If you don't have room you are probably better off using something else. Even a basic damage module will probably provide more benefit than a basic or even enhanced shield extender. // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 76	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:15:00 - [9] - Quote Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Okay so I finally spec'd into complex shield extenders after having held off for so long and spending my sp on other useless stuff.... Why did I wait so long... They're lovely!!! Okay, so my question is... who uses them on advanced suits and do you use a cpu module to squeeze out more shields or do you squeeze as much armor and shields combined that you can into the suit? Today I ran with two complex shield extenders and my third slot empty (due to lack of CPU) which is the equivalent of four enhanced extenders but for less CPU and obviously my advanced suit doesn't have four slots... Down armor, up shields! It seems to make a lot of difference to my survivability, same combined HP (approximately 750) but now I'm lasting longer and I'm a bit quicker around the battle field! I'm a Minmatar Logi by the way in case anyone wants to share their killer fittings with this suit as I'm now feeling much more flexibility and options with these complex modules available Cheers! apparently the OP hasn't been shot with a scrambler rifle yet Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6fk
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. 697	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:42:00 - [10] - Quote Evicer wrote: Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Okay so I finally spec'd into complex shield extenders after having held off for so long and spending my sp on other useless stuff.... Why did I wait so long... They're lovely!!! Okay, so my question is... who uses them on advanced suits and do you use a cpu module to squeeze out more shields or do you squeeze as much armor and shields combined that you can into the suit? Today I ran with two complex shield extenders and my third slot empty (due to lack of CPU) which is the equivalent of four enhanced extenders but for less CPU and obviously my advanced suit doesn't have four slots... Down armor, up shields! It seems to make a lot of difference to my survivability, same combined HP (approximately 750) but now I'm lasting longer and I'm a bit quicker around the battle field! I'm a Minmatar Logi by the way in case anyone wants to share their killer fittings with this suit as I'm now feeling much more flexibility and options with these complex modules available Cheers! apparently the OP hasn't been shot with a scrambler rifle yet this^ idgaf if you have 100 or 700 shields. they will drop faster than you can blink especially if it's an Imperial. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?

deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 157	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:51:00 - [11] - Quote Id run some ferroscale or reactive plates No speed loss more tank I think reactiveit is less CPU cost Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Free tacos
Tectonic Fusion 599	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:58:00 - [12] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Evicer wrote: Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Okay so I finally spec'd into complex shield extenders after having held off for so long and spending my sp on other useless stuff.... Why did I wait so long... They're lovely!!! Okay, so my question is... who uses them on advanced suits and do you use a cpu module to squeeze out more shields or do you squeeze as much armor and shields combined that you can into the suit? Today I ran with two complex shield extenders and my third slot empty (due to lack of CPU) which is the equivalent of four enhanced extenders but for less CPU and obviously my advanced suit doesn't have four slots... Down armor, up shields! It seems to make a lot of difference to my survivability, same combined HP (approximately 750) but now I'm lasting longer and I'm a bit quicker around the battle field! I'm a Minmatar Logi by the way in case anyone wants to share their killer fittings with this suit as I'm now feeling much more flexibility and options with these complex modules available Cheers! apparently the OP hasn't been shot with a scrambler rifle yet this^ idgaf if you have 100 or 700 shields. they will drop faster than you can blink especially if it's an Imperial. Mine does over 130 damage per shot to shield tankers. That's such you should be afraid of. But get an AR and strafe and jump in CQC and he will overheT if he has almost okay aim, and you will win. If he's at 20+ meters you're screwed... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Dimmu Borgir II Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 176	Posted - 2013.11.26 23:46:00 - [13] - Quote Thanks for the tips and the input guys, I appreciate it! And regarding the Imp Scr, I've been hit plenty by it and I know 700/800 combined HP isn't anything that great against the AR or the Scrambler these days and the Imperials are gonna kill me fast whether I'm high on armor or shields but they're not that bothersome as they're not that frequent, it's the AR spamming that I'm trying to counter the best that I possibly can. This is my current fit - Logi M/1 Series (level 4) Exo 5 MD 2 x Complex shield extenders Basic shield recharger 1 enhanced armor plate 2 basic armor plates Standard Nanohive Remote Explosives Quantum scanner (advanced, not proto) It's the CPU and PG limit that's got me right now but I'm still not up to 5 on any of the CPU/PG skills so time to work on those I guess! I'm currently running 323/65 CPU and PG respectively. Thanks for the input!
Dimmu Borgir II Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 176	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:14:00 - [14] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I was going to start talking about my fittings but I remembered I already made videos about them! links in my signature. (I'm also a minmatar logi btw) The thing is, with minmatar logi it's really hard to get a decent shield fitting, but I usually just run both extenders and plates because my survivability is pretty decent that way. Hey Shayz, thanks for the links and for the time you spend on making your vids.. I personally always feel it's a waste to leave equipment slots open on a logi but I guess it definitely gives you more flexibility, I'll maybe try it out later although I always feel naked without my scanner and my remote explosives! Just a quick question, the proto suit you show at the end of your advanced fittings video, how much is the restock on that suit and how do you fair against AR's or scramblers with the incredibly low TTK with that setup? Thanks again dude!
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 508	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:51:00 - [15] - Quote Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Okay so I finally spec'd into complex shield extenders after having held off for so long and spending my sp on other useless stuff.... Why did I wait so long... They're lovely!!! Okay, so my question is... who uses them on advanced suits and do you use a cpu module to squeeze out more shields or do you squeeze as much armor and shields combined that you can into the suit? Today I ran with two complex shield extenders and my third slot empty (due to lack of CPU) which is the equivalent of four enhanced extenders but for less CPU and obviously my advanced suit doesn't have four slots... Down armor, up shields! It seems to make a lot of difference to my survivability, same combined HP (approximately 750) but now I'm lasting longer and I'm a bit quicker around the battle field! I'm a Minmatar Logi by the way in case anyone wants to share their killer fittings with this suit as I'm now feeling much more flexibility and options with these complex modules available Cheers! I run Caldari assault,and I can honestly say,shield tanking is totally worthless since uprising started.My advanced suit has 407 shield and it drops super fast when getting shot by almost any weapon. Until they properly rebalance shields in this game,shield extenders are close to irrelevant.Armor tanking has been more than proven the way to go now.
Dimmu Borgir II Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 176	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:58:00 - [16] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Okay so I finally spec'd into complex shield extenders after having held off for so long and spending my sp on other useless stuff.... Why did I wait so long... They're lovely!!! Okay, so my question is... who uses them on advanced suits and do you use a cpu module to squeeze out more shields or do you squeeze as much armor and shields combined that you can into the suit? Today I ran with two complex shield extenders and my third slot empty (due to lack of CPU) which is the equivalent of four enhanced extenders but for less CPU and obviously my advanced suit doesn't have four slots... Down armor, up shields! It seems to make a lot of difference to my survivability, same combined HP (approximately 750) but now I'm lasting longer and I'm a bit quicker around the battle field! I'm a Minmatar Logi by the way in case anyone wants to share their killer fittings with this suit as I'm now feeling much more flexibility and options with these complex modules available Cheers! I run Caldari assault,and I can honestly say,shield tanking is totally worthless since uprising started.My advanced suit has 407 shield and it drops super fast when getting shot by almost any weapon. Until they properly rebalance shields in this game,shield extenders are close to irrelevant.Armor tanking has been more than proven the way to go now. So expanding on this, as far as you're concerned due to the current AR and scrambler situation, It'd be far more beneficial to run only one complex shield extender and maybe a couple of damage modifiers or something similar?
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 167	Posted - 2013.11.27 02:06:00 - [17] - Quote Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Thanks for the tips and the input guys, I appreciate it! And regarding the Imp Scr, I've been hit plenty by it and I know 700/800 combined HP isn't anything that great against the AR or the Scrambler these days and the Imperials are gonna kill me fast whether I'm high on armor or shields but they're not that bothersome as they're not that frequent, it's the AR spamming that I'm trying to counter the best that I possibly can. This is my current fit - Logi M/1 Series (level 4) Exo 5 MD 2 x Complex shield extenders Basic shield recharger 1 enhanced armor plate 2 basic armor plates Standard Nanohive Remote Explosives Quantum scanner (advanced, not proto) It's the CPU and PG limit that's got me right now but I'm still not up to 5 on any of the CPU/PG skills so time to work on those I guess! I'm currently running 323/65 CPU and PG respectively. Thanks for the input! I wouldn't run the recharger, especially if your not running regulators Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Free tacos
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 509	Posted - 2013.11.27 05:40:00 - [18] - Quote Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Okay so I finally spec'd into complex shield extenders after having held off for so long and spending my sp on other useless stuff.... Why did I wait so long... They're lovely!!! Okay, so my question is... who uses them on advanced suits and do you use a cpu module to squeeze out more shields or do you squeeze as much armor and shields combined that you can into the suit? Today I ran with two complex shield extenders and my third slot empty (due to lack of CPU) which is the equivalent of four enhanced extenders but for less CPU and obviously my advanced suit doesn't have four slots... Down armor, up shields! It seems to make a lot of difference to my survivability, same combined HP (approximately 750) but now I'm lasting longer and I'm a bit quicker around the battle field! I'm a Minmatar Logi by the way in case anyone wants to share their killer fittings with this suit as I'm now feeling much more flexibility and options with these complex modules available Cheers! I run Caldari assault,and I can honestly say,shield tanking is totally worthless since uprising started.My advanced suit has 407 shield and it drops super fast when getting shot by almost any weapon. Until they properly rebalance shields in this game,shield extenders are close to irrelevant.Armor tanking has been more than proven the way to go now. So expanding on this, as far as you're concerned due to the current AR and scrambler situation, It'd be far more beneficial to run only one complex shield extender and maybe a couple of damage modifiers or something similar? I'm saying armor tank.If you feel like you have discretionary SP to spend after getting your armor up,sure go for it,otherwise don't bother.Even my proto suit with 552ish shield can't hold up like it did in Chromosome. Also,the balancing/TTK is so bad right now that complex damage mods trump shields in every situation.
George Moros Area 514 198	Posted - 2013.11.27 05:54:00 - [19] - Quote I know this is a little off topic, but the OP (and most other posts in this thread) just confirms what several other people (me included) have noticed regarding shield extenders - you either fit complex ones, or don't bother with them at all. This also means you either train the skill at 5, or don't train at all - a very bad situation for new players. This is because there's too much spread across tiers in the amount of HP they provide. That's not the case with armor plates. Enhanced, and even basic plates are perfectly viable to fit, even on expensive suits. This imbalance sucks, and needs to be fixed. I think shield extenders should have a 44/55/66 bonus across tiers. This would make advanced and basic types usable. Pulvereus ergo queritor.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 512	Posted - 2013.11.28 03:22:00 - [20] - Quote George Moros wrote: I know this is a little off topic, but the OP (and most other posts in this thread) just confirms what several other people (me included) have noticed regarding shield extenders - you either fit complex ones, or don't bother with them at all. This also means you either train the skill at 5, or don't train at all - a very bad situation for new players. This is because there's too much spread across tiers in the amount of HP they provide. That's not the case with armor plates. Enhanced, and even basic plates are perfectly viable to fit, even on expensive suits. This imbalance sucks, and needs to be fixed. I think shield extenders should have a 44/55/66 bonus across tiers. This would make advanced and basic types usable. If you are running Caldari assault,you HAVE to run complex extenders.I mostly run an advanced suit with two complex extenders and my shields are at 407.Now the only reason that I don't max out my slots with complex extender is because in this day and age of New Eden,if you are an assault class and aren't running damage mod,you won't last very long.

dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 692	Posted - 2013.11.28 04:01:00 - [21] - Quote Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Today I ran with two complex shield extenders and my third slot empty (due to lack of CPU) Can't believe no one caught this. Don't leave a slot empty. Fit fitting mods (e.g. CPU) in your lows if you're shield tanking and get something in there, even if it's a shield energizer/recharger... No point leaving a slot empty, ever (Unless you run logiassault with no equipment )
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1037	Posted - 2013.11.28 07:10:00 - [22] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: Id run some ferroscale or reactive plates No speed loss more tank I think reactiveit is less CPU cost Anyone who uses reactive plates is an idiot. The CPU and PG costs are truely outrageous considering the meager HP and regen benefit. Also speed tanking doesn't work anymore. As long as you remain decently mobile you want as much hp as you can muster. Fun > Realism
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5551	Posted - 2013.11.28 07:14:00 - [23] - Quote I recommend stacking two of the things and a damage mod on that suit. Put a CPU mod in your lows if you're struggling for CPU. In the remaining low slots put on a couple of basic plates. They'll barely regen but it's better than nothing. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Dimmu Borgir II Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 177	Posted - 2013.11.29 01:03:00 - [24] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Today I ran with two complex shield extenders and my third slot empty (due to lack of CPU) Can't believe no one caught this. Don't leave a slot empty. Fit fitting mods (e.g. CPU) in your lows if you're shield tanking and get something in there, even if it's a shield energizer/recharger... No point leaving a slot empty, ever (Unless you run logiassault with no equipment ) But it was still a 33 (I know, one bullet from an exile ) point gain over what I previously had with 3 x enhanced plates and I'd prefer to use the 3 slots for basic armor plates rather than only two plates and a cpu upgrade... I have all the equipment I want filled up, I was just a few cpu shy of being able to put something in there and today I don't have that problem as I've just skilled up another level in electronics so squeezed another 15 cpu out of the suit :D Thanks for the tips! :D
Dimmu Borgir II Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 177	Posted - 2013.11.29 01:08:00 - [25] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I recommend stacking two of the things and a damage mod on that suit. Put a CPU mod in your lows if you're struggling for CPU. In the remaining low slots put on a couple of basic plates. They'll barely regen but it's better than nothing. I'm a logi and I use a mass driver religiously and the enhanced damage mods (only have level 3 so far) don't seem to help much with that, I did fit the damage mods onto my assault fittings though and it seemed to help a bit today but as I'm really bad with an AR (like exaggeratedly bad!) it still doesn't help me much even though I have proficiency 3 and sharpshooter 4 etc. The CPU modules just seem like an incredible waste of a slot to me and I feel that there are so many more options available before resorting to that, such as using lower tier equipment... Thanks for the input
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 696	Posted - 2013.11.29 06:31:00 - [26] - Quote Dimmu Borgir II wrote: dustwaffle wrote: Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Today I ran with two complex shield extenders and my third slot empty (due to lack of CPU) Can't believe no one caught this. Don't leave a slot empty. Fit fitting mods (e.g. CPU) in your lows if you're shield tanking and get something in there, even if it's a shield energizer/recharger... No point leaving a slot empty, ever (Unless you run logiassault with no equipment ) But it was still a 33 (I know, one bullet from an exile ) point gain over what I previously had with 3 x enhanced plates and I'd prefer to use the 3 slots for basic armor plates rather than only two plates and a cpu upgrade... I have all the equipment I want filled up, I was just a few cpu shy of being able to put something in there and today I don't have that problem as I've just skilled up another level in electronics so squeezed another 15 cpu out of the suit :D Thanks for the tips! :D Aye, those +5% CPU/PG skills are definitely the more useful skills to put SP into, such a silly thing that they're x5 skills in Dust (They're x1 skills in EVE). I know what you mean about the HP, but think on it this way, better to have 2x Complex than 3x enhanced. You get 1 slot free for damage mods (use enhanced for lower CPU?PG) or something else, and a smidgeon more EHP (33 not including skills which bring this up to 42). In any case, I never leave a slot empty even if there's nothing I can fit on it. Too bad Dust doesn't allow you to have inactive modules to act as heat sinks, (overheat mechanics to be added soonGäó? )


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