DUST Search - Please help me understand about BPO removal.

Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:

I'm disappointed because CCP encouraged the sale of BPOs immediately prior to their removal. Im not a dev but I imagine it unlikely at that point they couldnt have known some modules were being removed. Anyone who purchased AUR or merc packs, etc at that time specifically for BPOs feel as if they were misled and that this action sets a poor precedent undermining the safety of their other BPOs.

How is anyone upset that people wish to protect their investment?

CCP could find clever ways to appease the masses by replacing the BPOs with something interesting or unique.
They could honor the purchase of the BPO until such a time as we get manufacturing and production costs.
They could cap the BPO production capacity or even convert the current BPOs to other militia vehicle BPOs.
The could redesign how BPOs function to better interact with the market rather than just axing them.

Certainly they can do something better than simply offering AUR that many people bought only for the BPOs in the first place.
Simply put, we bought something we were told was special and valuable and if it's removed we should be compensated with something else of a similar value.

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Christiphoros von Poe PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 25	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:27:00 - [1] - Quote I have been absent for the recent changes and info regarding the BPO's, and it seems that the community is very upset about this. My question is, are all BPO's being removed? What about my skinweave suits? Anyone who can clarify thank you!
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 17	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:30:00 - [2] - Quote Pretty sure its just vehicle bpos and vehicle modules that wont be in the game anymore. Honestly not sure what all the fuss is about, since if they let them keep the bpo's they just wouldn't be able to use them. Dedicated scout. Because the suit is underpowered. Imagine the good ones when we get buffed people ;)
Christiphoros von Poe PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 25	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:32:00 - [3] - Quote Thank you for the clarification :)
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1015	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:32:00 - [4] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Pretty sure its just vehicle bpos and vehicle modules that wont be in the game anymore. Honestly not sure what all the fuss is about, since if they let them keep the bpo's they just wouldn't be able to use them. This is correct. The uproar is by people who are angry that CCP is taking away something they bought with AUR which this group identifies as real money, regardless of the fact that it is more akin to script. Fun > Realism
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 17	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:34:00 - [5] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Pretty sure its just vehicle bpos and vehicle modules that wont be in the game anymore. Honestly not sure what all the fuss is about, since if they let them keep the bpo's they just wouldn't be able to use them. This is correct. The uproar is by people who are angry that CCP is taking away something they bought with AUR which this group identifies as real money, regardless of the fact that it is more akin to script. Be really funny if they let them keep it and any time they tried to use it, it crashed their game as the coding wouldn't be there. Dedicated scout. Because the suit is underpowered. Imagine the good ones when we get buffed people ;)
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 150	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:37:00 - [6] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Pretty sure its just vehicle bpos and vehicle modules that wont be in the game anymore. Honestly not sure what all the fuss is about, since if they let them keep the bpo's they just wouldn't be able to use them. Vehicle BPO's are not being touched, just BPO Militia Vehicle Modules. Contact WaTcHoUt1219 ZARTA for Logos. More are available. 500K ISK.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2312	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:43:00 - [7] - Quote Christiphoros von Poe wrote: I have been absent for the recent changes and info regarding the BPO's, and it seems that the community is very upset about this. My question is, are all BPO's being removed? What about my skinweave suits? Anyone who can clarify thank you! Only the militia BPOs for vehicle modules are being removed. The upset is that this announcement came after CCP confirmed that BPOs would not be removed from player inventories, and because no replacements are being offered. No.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 45	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:43:00 - [8] - Quote Message from Godin: Okay bro, I'm going to make this real simple (note: read up on the vehicle update coming in 1.7 if you haven't): The 4 modules that they are removing, which are the Militia 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates Blueprint, Militia Shield Regenerator Blueprint, Militia Shield Resistance Amplifier, and the Militia Power Diagnostic System Blueprint got trashed because Wolfman decided to dump them. They are in return giving us a refund for the BPO's. BPO's in a whole aren't being trashed, just these four.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2312	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:45:00 - [9] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Pretty sure its just vehicle bpos and vehicle modules that wont be in the game anymore. Honestly not sure what all the fuss is about, since if they let them keep the bpo's they just wouldn't be able to use them. This is correct. The uproar is by people who are angry that CCP is taking away something they bought with AUR which this group identifies as real money, regardless of the fact that it is more akin to script. I haven't seen anyone view it as real money. The issue is that the aurum being refunded isn't worth anything if the items it can purchase can't even be kept. No.
Some Alaskan Dust2Dust. Top Men. 18	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:49:00 - [10] - Quote hmm never mind. I really hope my guristas saga is safe.

Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 491	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:52:00 - [11] - Quote There is also 2 more reasons people are upset, which I don't think anyone has mentioned. Take the Shield Resistance Mod BPO. After 1.7 the shield resist mod will be entirely active. So they were hoping either the BPO will be made into an active mod and be far more powerful (kinda like the 'fossil' BPO no longer having just a sidearm) . Or the mod can be added (along with the active no having a stacking penalty) and give, I think, 70% resistance. Then there are those that bought BPO LAV's who use the shield resistance mod to beef up their vehicles and make it far stronger.. well ok strong enough to take an extra grenade, which isn't too insignificant. All this for free ISK "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Miokai Zahou Film Actors Guilds 55	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:56:00 - [12] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Message from Godin: Okay bro, I'm going to make this real simple (note: read up on the vehicle update coming in 1.7 if you haven't): The 4 modules that they are removing, which are the Militia 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates Blueprint, Militia Shield Regenerator Blueprint, Militia Shield Resistance Amplifier, and the Militia Power Diagnostic System Blueprint got trashed because Wolfman decided to dump them. They are in return giving us a refund for the BPO's. BPO's in a whole aren't being trashed, just these four. Ah crappie the three out of the four BPOs I use for my LAV BPO.... I only bought the AURUM for those BPOs. Since I don't want the useless AURUM how about gimme some skill points for compensation hmmmm? .... yeah no that's a bad Idea but I wanna put it out there and see where this goes.
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 684	Posted - 2013.11.25 05:11:00 - [13] - Quote Miokai Zahou wrote: .... yeah no that's a bad Idea but I wanna put it out there and see where this goes. You should feel bad.
Miokai Zahou Film Actors Guilds 55	Posted - 2013.11.25 05:15:00 - [14] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Miokai Zahou wrote: .... yeah no that's a bad Idea but I wanna put it out there and see where this goes. You should feel bad. ....The moment I posted..... The moment I posted...
Audrey2 Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.11.26 00:22:00 - [15] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Pretty sure its just vehicle bpos and vehicle modules that wont be in the game anymore. Honestly not sure what all the fuss is about, since if they let them keep the bpo's they just wouldn't be able to use them. This is correct. The uproar is by people who are angry that CCP is taking away something they bought with AUR which this group identifies as real money, regardless of the fact that it is more akin to script. I haven't seen anyone view it as real money. The issue is that the aurum being refunded isn't worth anything if the items it can purchase can't even be kept. ^THIS. CCP devalued their own currency by showing us our purchases with aur are not safe. because of this offering more aur is unacceptable. SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5313	Posted - 2013.11.26 00:30:00 - [16] - Quote Only four specific BPOs are being removed as mentioned in the sticky notes here: Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122274&find=unread Quote: In regards to BPOs: we are removing and refunding a few specific AUR militia Blueprints pertaining to vehicles because their respective modules will not exist anymore. We have no plans for the immediate future to touch other blueprints. 4800 AUR Militia 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates Blueprint 4800 AUR Militia Shield Regenerator Blueprint 4800 AUR Militia Shield Resistance Amplifier 4800 AUR Militia Power Diagnostic System Blueprint These are just militia-level module BPOS. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2449	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:13:00 - [17] - Quote I'm disappointed because CCP encouraged the sale of BPOs immediately prior to their removal. Im not a dev but I imagine it unlikely at that point they couldnt have known some modules were being removed. Anyone who purchased AUR or merc packs, etc at that time specifically for BPOs feel as if they were misled and that this action sets a poor precedent undermining the safety of their other BPOs. How is anyone upset that people wish to protect their investment? CCP could find clever ways to appease the masses by replacing the BPOs with something interesting or unique. They could honor the purchase of the BPO until such a time as we get manufacturing and production costs. They could cap the BPO production capacity or even convert the current BPOs to other militia vehicle BPOs. The could redesign how BPOs function to better interact with the market rather than just axing them. Certainly they can do something better than simply offering AUR that many people bought only for the BPOs in the first place. Simply put, we bought something we were told was special and valuable and if it's removed we should be compensated with something else of a similar value. HellsGÇáorm, Director Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
Yelhsa Jin-Mao GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 161	Posted - 2013.11.26 02:26:00 - [18] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Only four specific BPOs are being removed as mentioned in the sticky notes here: Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122274&find=unread Quote: In regards to BPOs: we are removing and refunding a few specific AUR militia Blueprints pertaining to vehicles because their respective modules will not exist anymore. We have no plans for the immediate future to touch other blueprints. 4800 AUR Militia 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates Blueprint 4800 AUR Militia Shield Regenerator Blueprint 4800 AUR Militia Shield Resistance Amplifier 4800 AUR Militia Power Diagnostic System Blueprint These are just militia-level module BPOS. 3 of which fill the 5 slots on my Blood Raider Saga BPO LAV I can has ISK
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2337	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:37:00 - [19] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: I'm disappointed because CCP encouraged the sale of BPOs immediately prior to their removal. Im not a dev but I imagine it unlikely at that point they couldnt have known some modules were being removed. Anyone who purchased AUR or merc packs, etc at that time specifically for BPOs feel as if they were misled and that this action sets a poor precedent undermining the safety of their other BPOs. How is anyone upset that people wish to protect their investment? CCP could find clever ways to appease the masses by replacing the BPOs with something interesting or unique. They could honor the purchase of the BPO until such a time as we get manufacturing and production costs. They could cap the BPO production capacity or even convert the current BPOs to other militia vehicle BPOs. The could redesign how BPOs function to better interact with the market rather than just axing them. Certainly they can do something better than simply offering AUR that many people bought only for the BPOs in the first place. Simply put, we bought something we were told was special and valuable and if it's removed we should be compensated with something else of a similar value. But you don't understand! The EULA grants CCP immunity from any and all criticism!!! No.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 683	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:41:00 - [20] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Pretty sure its just vehicle bpos and vehicle modules that wont be in the game anymore. Honestly not sure what all the fuss is about, since if they let them keep the bpo's they just wouldn't be able to use them. This is correct. The uproar is by people who are angry that CCP is taking away something they bought with AUR which this group identifies as real money, regardless of the fact that it is more akin to script. Define "real money" as you understand it. I am curious. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5320	Posted - 2013.11.26 04:48:00 - [21] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Pretty sure its just vehicle bpos and vehicle modules that wont be in the game anymore. Honestly not sure what all the fuss is about, since if they let them keep the bpo's they just wouldn't be able to use them. This is correct. The uproar is by people who are angry that CCP is taking away something they bought with AUR which this group identifies as real money, regardless of the fact that it is more akin to script. Define "real money" as you understand it. I am curious. Um... is that a rhetorical statement? CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10783	Posted - 2013.11.26 05:10:00 - [22] - Quote Dollar's value is the belief in that value. :( CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2451	Posted - 2013.11.26 14:26:00 - [23] - Quote Bump. HellsGÇáorm, Director Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114


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